In this episode of the Supply Chain Buzz, Scott Luton, Greg White, and Chris Barnes welcome Karan Agrawal to the Supply Chain Now studios.

“I think every millennial today wants to be in a cross-functional role. And supply chain, by definition, is a global interconnected network which has many complex problems to solve.”

-Karan Agrawal, Operations Strategy at Dell

As Millennials and ‘Gen Z’ play a larger role in household buying decisions, their preferences are being driven into the operational heart of corporate strategy. From the ways they choose to find and consume information to their emphasis on sustainability and ethical sourcing, their consumer habits are leading major shifts in how today’s supply chains are built and run.

In this conversation, Co-hosts Scott Luton, Greg White and Chris Barnes spoke with Karan Agrawal, who works in an Operations Strategy role at Dell in Austin. He was originally attracted to the field of supply chain by his fascination with product life cycles – such as how a coffee bean goes from Costa Rica to a cup of coffee in the US. He also helped found a successful student chapter of APICS on the Georgia Tech campus in 2017.

Karan is currently working to create a logical data structure for Dell’s digital supply chain. Today that data is being housed in multiple different systems that reflect the needs of procurement, the supply base and product development. In order to fully realize the benefits of analytics, those data sources will have to be consolidated.

Karan shares his insight about how – and why – supply chains should leverage the unique characteristics of Millennials:

-They want to do work that they believe has purpose and which allows them to have a high impact on the company they work for

-They bring an alternate perspective on today’s business challenges that represents an important voice in the room

-They will translate their own high consumer expectations into an improved experience for the customers served by their company

[00:00:08] It’s time for Supply Chain Now Radio. Broadcasting live from the Supply chain capital of the country, Atlanta, Georgia. Supply chain. Now radio spotlights the best in all things supply chain the people, the technologies, the best practices and the critical issues of the day. And now here are your hosts.

[00:00:35] All right, good morning, Scott Luton here with you live on Supply Chain Now Radio, welcome back to the show. So on today’s show, we’re gonna be interviewing an outstanding, exceptional supply chain leader that will offer practical and interesting insights into a variety of things, including while millennials are perfect for a perfect for the splotched industry and tips for how current students can successfully break into the industry. So quick programing note like all of our series Supply Chain Now Radio, you can find our replays on a variety of channels Apple podcasts, SoundCloud, YouTube, wherever else you get your podcast from. As always, we’d love to have you subscribe so you don’t miss anything big. Thanks to all of our sponsors for allowing us to bring best practices and innovative ideas to you. Our audience. Supplychainrealestate.com. Verusen. The Effective syndicate ProPurchaser.com. Anymore. You can check out each of our sponsors on the show notes of this episode. So welcome in my fearless co-host today co-host team today. First off, Greg White Serial Supply chain tech entrepreneur and trusted advisor to many esteemed guru to some Hatoon. Greg.

[00:01:39] Oh, I’m doing well now. Now, Spike, you’re you’re Mike hot there. Yeah.

[00:01:45] Thanks. Hey, I am. I’m looking forward to this conversation. I have two millennials as as children, an agenda here. So I’m really excited to talk about this.

[00:01:56] I am, too. And of course, we are very familiar with Kahn or our guest. We’re getting through here in a second. And it’s great to have him back. We’ve collaborate with him on some previous initiatives and we’ve got an outstanding guest. But our other fearless co-host is Chris Barnes, the Apex coach and executive director of Apex Atlanta. Chris, how you doing? I’m doing fine. Great to be here. It’s great to have you here. That and again, I think we share we have shared enthusiasm for some of suffragan we’re be talking about. Okay. So now that I’ve double check to make sure everyone’s mikes are hot and I know our featured guest today can’t argue all global operations strategy analysts with Dell, Hatoon Khan doing well.

[00:02:35] Thank you so much for having me on the show.

[00:02:37] Oh, it’s great to have you back. And you’re you’re in Austin now doing some big things globally in a strategic role, which is outstanding. But, you know, we’ve known you here in Atlanta as you kind of matriculated through Georgia Tech, an outstanding supply chain institution. Wow. You know, giving back while you’re in school, you know, and amongst other things, you’re doing. And we’re gonna talk more about some of those things that you’re involved in, as well as some things you’re doing now and some of your insights and kind of suggestions and best practices for folks that want to want to be like Iran, like Iran.

[00:03:10] Shah Very, very happy to share.

[00:03:12] Well, so but for starters, I think we’ve got some news, some some supply chain new stores. Right. Right.

[00:03:17] Yeah. Well let’s let’s call them information stories. OK. We got to be careful about timing here because we’re recording this today. So there are a few people watching us today and then and then this will come out in a couple of weeks. So we’re trying to produce some interesting topics that people can listen to right now. Yes. Timeless information. So, yeah, I’m going to start with a couple of things that are interesting, but not news. So get this for Supply chain professionals books. Are still the number one source of inspiration, actual physical, not. Not even Kindle type books. So 73 percent of of Supply chain professionals get their inspirations from books now when they turn to screens. Then it changes a little bit, a little bit there. But you can even guess what is second two books. For inspiration. Twitter. Twitter.

[00:04:27] Love is there. Are you trying to say that with an accent? I’m not.

[00:04:31] Forty seven percent get their inspiration from documentary films and presentations. So your PowerPoints are not wasted, folks. So that’s I mean, that’s a pretty distant second. And events, concerts or gaming comes in third and then city trips comes in fourth. Really? Yeah. So, you know, when a screen is involved, which. Which. Oh. Oh, yes. And let me tell you that fifth guess what fifth is.

[00:05:03] He guesses Chris Carn podcasts. Very good man. He’s on it.

[00:05:08] Yeah. So when it comes to screens, you know, it is things like Twitter and social media and that sort of thing. But but yeah, we are actually above screens. We in the podcast industry. But books, right. Who thought it would? It’s hard and hard. How do they define city trips? Is that they didn’t define it. OK.

[00:05:30] City trips, museum visits or outdoor activity? Oh, gotcha. Also taken a visit. Statue. Right. But getting the family, the station wagon heading down.

[00:05:40] Yes. Gotcha. Yeah. And hey, you know, we’re talking about millennials. But, you know, books are still big. I have I have a twenty three year old daughter who refuses to read on a Kindle. We got her an iPad as a gift because she was such a voracious reader. She didn’t want it. She wants physical books. So that’s a really interesting because I also have a Jenny here. Who? She has a great GPA, but I’m pretty sure she’s never picked up a book. I don’t know if she actually reads physical books, so she does from time to time.

[00:06:15] We all get our come. I think we all have different preferences in terms of how we get our news and content and information is.

[00:06:20] Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, and let’s talk about genze and we’re gonna talk about your little brothers and sisters, Ryder genze right now. So let’s let’s talk about them. So believe it or not, genze is paying a bit. Playing a big role in family shopping as if that’s a surprise. Right. So if you’ve got anyone born between around 1996 and in 2016, their agenda here. Mm hmm. Right. So eighty seven percent of them have some impact on family shopping. And a lot of them have impact on on the way that people become aware of the companies that they’ll shop for sustainability. Right. Ethical sourcing and that sort of thing. So that’s an interesting an interesting carryover from their big brothers and sisters.

[00:07:11] And they have veto authority. Right. I’m sure they do. Eighty seven percent influent.

[00:07:16] I can’t tell you the number of times that my genze or Ashlynn has said we are not complete the sentence one way or the other. All right. Just one final thing. Yes. And this is good news. We talked we’ve talked about sustainability. That’s it. Look, that’s a big topic for us, right in the Supply chain. And McKinsey says that sustainable supply chains are just five years away. Hmm. Particularly in in the in the apparel industry, these companies are becoming really, really aware of who their vendors are, whether they’re ethically sourcing. Right. The kinds of materials that they’re using. And we’ve had we had a discussion yesterday with Raj Verma about how they that your vendors become. And suppliers become a part of your brand because people in and we’re going to talk about this in more depth. But people are digging deeper into who you get your goods from and whether that’s a good thing.

[00:08:09] Sheer research. Nielsen put out some research here in the last few weeks about how consumers are factoring that more into their decisions, more and more as proven. And so it will only continue to grow as we continue to see the generational transfers taking place that you’re alluding to. So, yeah, good stuff. All right. So that’s all from the Supply Chain Now Radio News Daryl News desk.

[00:08:31] Yes, that’s it. All right. So we’ve got a outsing, I guess.

[00:08:34] Won’t bring corn eggroll back into the conversation. So Carnel listless before we kind of dove into your experience with one an iconic technology company. Let’s get a little better. So tell us more about you and your personal and your professional journey.

[00:08:50] Shah So I was actually born and raised in India. Suspend that force 18 years in India and then at the age of 18 I decided to move eight thousand miles away from home to begin college at Georgia Tech here in Atlanta and just graduated with a bachelor’s degree in Industrial engineering. This boss may and moved to Austin, Texas a couple of months back to start working in a global operations strategy role with Daryl. And that’s been a fantastic last couple of months. As far as my first foray into Supply chain goes, I think I fell into this field three years back and really has captivated me ever since. The way I started getting involved with this field was actually starting us to an organization at Georgia Tech called Apex, a Georgia tag to kind of inculcate supply chain awareness among students in a fun and engaging manner, whether that’s to talk series simulations or workshops.

[00:09:47] Sarkhan. How did a hit that won’t bring Chris in here? And given Chris’s Epix roots and stuff and SRI’s he wants learn more about that story. But real quick, how did what hit your radar that that were you kind of had that supply chain epiphany to say, hey, I want to do that. And then, of course, it seems like that led to you founding and volunteering and leading things. What what was that? What was that, a 50?

[00:10:10] Of course, I think at some point in sophomore year of college, right. Like most people come into college not knowing what to do. And that was basically me as well. I think somewhere along the journey I started getting involved in product life cycles. Right. Like I love to think about how does that coffee, which I drink in the morning. Where does it come from? Like, how do you do the coffee beans in Brazil? Kind of translate into coffee in my hand. So kind of end to end thinking or part lifecycles was really interesting, engaging to me. And I was like, what is the best field? Which kind of fits in to the understanding of product life cycles and Georgia tag-team position as a number one Industrial program. I’m just launching program of its kind in the country. For the last 25 years I was like, well, I’m literally at a place which is promoting supply chain interest and promoting I’m signing product lifecycles. So what better it is than just switched my major from mechanical engineering to industrial engineering. And that’s how I think my journey with this field started so sophomore year.

[00:11:10] That’s right. And Chris. He was the car was part of the GetOn the Apex chapter at Georgia Tech founded. That’s right. Which was you given all the success at Georgia Tech. Has all the great talent. They turn out year in, year out, all the the role they play in supply chain in technology talent. I was surprised, I think in Chris. I think we were both suppliers when we realized that they didn’t have a vibrate student chapter. Right.

[00:11:37] Right. You know how. So what was your motivation? Why would you start a chapter like that? Was our mentor somebody that said, hey, this is a cool thing or something?

[00:11:45] It was combination of couple of things. Number one was the fact that I realized that most people, after having finished a degree Industrial engineering, either go into consulting or go into banking. And not so many people take up a supply chain role. Right. And if you think about what really goes into an Industrial injuring educations, it’s feels like all patients research, supply chain, data analytics and whatnot. So I saw that there were more than three or four consulting clubs on campus. There are a lot of organization preventing data analytics, but there what wasn’t really an organization which is promoting supply chain awareness outside the classroom. So I think realizing that gap really made me kind of storm entrepreneurial mindset and entrepreneurial kind of interests. And I was like, hey, like there really isn’t an established forum today. Why don’t I start something which could hopefully three or four years down materialize and to kind of the premier supply chain organization here at Georgia Tech. And I’m ecstatic to share that. Even after me having graduated from college. We have a very interesting young, you know, Yosh Rod saying taking up this organization. I think that was a first read in the second one was that I was trying to get more, more involved on campus. And I just felt that, OK, like everybody studies, everybody does things in the classroom. I think what really differentiates an individual is really how involved you can outside the classroom. And that was one of the biggest reasons why I decided come to the U.S. in the first place, because I think that’s a big USP of the U.S. Education is how holistic in nature it is. So I think those two thoughts kind of kind of merged together. And I was like, hey, let’s tarde an organization which really is promoting supply chain awareness among students. And I think just learning and understanding myself, I was able to get my Sammons into this field.

[00:13:26] And you have never looked back since and it’s sustainable and you’re talking about endures.. You get new leadership that came up after the founders got together, made it happen. I think you’ve got you’ve had a lot of it. If you’re involved in any kind of student organization globally, you know, for it to really blossom, you’ve got to have the university or the school get behind it. Absolutely. And you’ll have a lot of that. Tim Brown, which is a great friend of the apical in a chapter, one of our sponsors here at Supply Chain Now Radio is an outstanding advocate for all things supply chain. But also you really got behind you’re the student chapter right here.

[00:14:00] Really did. I think without Tim Brown, we wouldn’t have been able to kick start this organization on campus. And I think even though students might have an interest and students might have ideas, it really needs to be channeled in the right direction. I think Tim really provided that particular strategic direction for the organization.

[00:14:17] Well, I think as the entrepreneurs and Froome can can attest, you’ve got the founders of something that’s going to endure. You’ve got to if you see is something that’s got to be done as you’re talking about, warm up, do it and carn you. And who else would you put kind of in that? Who helped you found founding a student standpoint, something without a Dods God?

[00:14:39] I think without you, we wouldn’t have been able to kick start this organization. Look at how you look at how you said we’d write to yourself. That’s brilliant.

[00:14:45] But from a student standpoint, you know, that you had as I recall, you had an outstanding group of leaders that kind of served that that form that first board, right?

[00:14:54] Yeah. So we had a group of four other students at four other friends who kind of got together behind this idea and thing. Like, I think what you what really stood out about them was the fact that they were really ready to take on a risk. Right. Because I think we talked about entrepreneurship. We talk about you organizations, and really there isn’t any reason to call it in a collegiate environment. So I think they were willing to go up and be onto what’s expected of them both in terms of putting in the effort and directing the vision and mission of what this organization is going to shape into us. I think the founding board of 2017 apic George Tech chapter was definitely kind of the foundational level behind which his organization has been has been shaping up.

[00:15:36] All right. So before we leave, Chris, anything else from a you know, obviously a apex? Linna helps a sponsor Supply chain Day at Georgia Tech. Y’all been the chapter’s been really involved. Any other commentary or questions from your end before we kind of Dobb Maureen to his transition from Georgia Tech?

[00:15:53] No, just as you had mentioned, your your protege. Ja ja Sheer thing saying he’s doing a fantastic job there. Georgia Tech does an excellent job in promoting their students to their career, to the workforce. I think they have 4 supply chain days now where a sponsor of twice a year. Yeah. So students are always there. It’s a great it’s a great opportunity for students to go out and meet the companies. But yeah. Yashar Rod is doing a fantastic job and you’re in your stead.

[00:16:16] Outstanding. And that’s what it takes. Yet as as whether it’s university groups and organizations or businesses, you know, the succession planning is so important. And that was something also very seriously. I recall some the conversations are heaven. You don’t find the health. Do you find that at the undergraduate level? So a lot of a lot of neat things there. But but let’s move on, because I love to hear about what you’re doing now at Dyl. But before you actually let me stop myself here, because you were already interning. You did some really internships while you’re you’re in school, right?

[00:16:50] Right. What you do. So I actually looked at Supply chain from three different lenses. And that’s the way I like to put it. I looked at Supply chain from a Industrial perspective, was working at comments based in Indiana. Then I looked at Supply chain from a government lands. When I worked in the preferential procurement space in South Africa. Based out of Johannesburg, working with the South African provincial government, which is extremely cool and different experience. And then I looked at Supply chain from a consulting perspective, working with Ernst and Young based out in New York City.

[00:17:22] What experiences? Wow, that is powerful. Really intentional, too. Yes. I mean, to target it from three different perspectives.

[00:17:29] Did you happen to meet Jenny Froome when you’re down South African tenant?

[00:17:35] So, Sara, a lot of people for ourselves.

[00:17:38] I’m being kind of funny, but yeah, Jenny helps to lead spics, which is the apex kind of at the apex organization in Africa that got that does a lot of what Apex does here in the States. And she’s a phenomenal person. So who made that connection later? But yeah, to your point, the global at the love/hate kind of framed it up in three different kind of lens, but also the global. How how? I can only imagine how that helped prep for what is the global Indian Tzachi industry these days. Right.

[00:18:09] Something. What are the biggest takeaway from all the three experiences was that. I think Brett in a lot of fields is depth and supply chain because a lot of people talk about like how different topics are so broad and you’re really not being a massara one field. But just because Supply chain today covers everything from how you procure items to the time it gets delivered to your doorstep. I think breadth in most fields is depth and supply chain. I think that’s something which I realized through my different experiences is that Supply chain today is such an evolving concept and that no company can advance today without supply chain being a competitive advantage.

[00:18:48] Outstanding. Loved it. All right.

[00:18:51] It’s funny. It seems like not that long ago we were just trying to make that case. It’s no longer a necessary evil. It it is a competitive urge. It will be, it seems like not that long ago. We’re saying you have to think of it as a competitive advantage, not to think so many companies do. They’ve made my transition now. Right.

[00:19:07] Well, I’m gonna tell you when I was in school is pizza and beer. So to hear about some some of these things you were involved in as you were getting ready for what’s a dynamite start to us, a Ryder.

[00:19:16] It’s a different kind of life preparation. Scott Slick. I felt prepared.

[00:19:21] All right. So moving forward, you graduated win May twenty nineteen. Okay, May twenty nineteen. And then you landed and an outstanding. I mean let’s let’s talk more about what you do at an iconic brands such as Dell. So talk about that transition and into what you do at Dell and then and then how that would onboarding has been like.

[00:19:43] Absolutely. So I work in Dell’s global operations strategy practice on that, and that is basically an internal strategy consulting team which drives executive prioritized as strategic projects for Dell Supply chain. And they’re kind of four different projects which this team kind of undertakes. And I can quickly kind of run you through those. You’re the forest type is commodity procurement strategy, which is basically around what type of supplier should I choose for X, Y, Z product. And one of the different factors that you consider the number two is projects are on Logistics strategy, which is which carrier should I choose? Should I ship something through air or ocean? The talk on projects are market analytics strategy, which is basically our own. Okay, how have my products performed compared to competitors and different quarters and where the different performance metrics I can tweak to make sure that Dell is really advancing its supply chain for products. And the fourth space, which I’m kind of involved in is digital transformation space. And I think that’s kind of the most interesting space to be in is because today no supply chain can function without being technology technologically enabled. And within digital transformation, we are working on technologies like robotic process automation. We are working on predictive analytics and really making the right commitment to the customer.

[00:21:02] But the product which offsite off with is a data. How do you project? And today, like data is the biggest Garnsey out there, right? And we are really talking about how we can create a logical data structure for data to lie in Della’s digital supply chain. And that’s kind of the overarching question which which me and my team are trying to solve. So it’s a fantastic team to be in. Just because as a consulting team, it’s full of a lot of ex consultants from McKinsey and BCG. So Delphine, a very credible team to be in. And we typically do a lot of these short term and long term projects. You you’re able to see the scope of the End to end Supply chain, which I think is is a great place to be in, especially when you’re young. I think the training and onboarding program is fantastic adult. We actually have two different programs. One is the Supply chain developing program and the second is a Supply chain graduate program. And it’s a bludging devolvement program is basically a three year rotational program where you’re able to take your in different teams in planning and procurement in Logistics. And in that way you’re really able to understand what End to end Daryl Supply chain looks like and I feel like.

[00:22:15] How so? Let me stop there for a second, cause how how important how important is that and how prevalent do you believe that that view is and that understanding is, especially for new graduates, new folks coming in the industry. It was at a is that an epiphany for a lot of folks, you think?

[00:22:32] So I think every millennial today wants to be in a cross-functional role. And Supply chain, by definition is an interconnected network which is global at an unavoidable, unavoidable right. And a network which has so many complex problems that today, if you ask any millennial what they want to do in life, everybody stays at 24, 25 won’t change. The world was right. And I feel that since Supply chain has so many complex problems which are all intertwined together and M.A.D. Today really want to use their analytical and technical skills at their best. There isn’t a benefit I can think about where they can really solve complex problems. Dan in Supply chain because even one change in option system has a crazy effect in the dahlstrom system. So there are a lot of moving parts and I feel like because you are in a field which has so many moving parts and it’s really an exciting time for any M.A.D. To be in this field.

[00:23:25] Well, you know, I think that it’s exciting time. I agree with you completely. Right. I think it’s an exciting time for anyone to be in Supply chain in this era. Right.

[00:23:33] Well, we’ve got the seat at the table. You talk about so often. Right. And and it is finally recognized as as a strategic advantage. And I think, look, millennials want to be involved in strategy. They want to be involved in something with purpose. You can have you can have purpose like we talked about sustainability. Right. You know, you can you can be part of shaping how things are made. Right. I mean, you can make sure that it’s ethically source that people are fairly treated right. You can have all of those impacts in the world. And it’s complex and fast moving. We used fast moving in a in another show. Right. So, you know, it’s it’s something where you can come in today. Right. And and everything is this way. You can come in the next day and you have to attack things from a totally different perspective. Yeah, right. For more of a consulting versus an operational perspective, for instance.

[00:24:29] So if you jump in supply chain, you better bring your force. Got running shoes these days, right? Because it is fast moving 100 miles an hour, hour in and hour out to all millennials.

[00:24:39] Forest Gump was a. Of, you know, Horska now I’d say. I know, right. I know they make you feel old every single day. So it’s a great movie, by the way. OK, yeah. One of my favorites.

[00:24:53] Watch it live the first time at Shepperton Sheppard Air Force Base in Texas. By the way, which Star Falls, Texas? Man, that’s forever good. 1994’s. And that movie came out OK. So, Chris Rock, I want to pose a question to you, because clearly corn is exceptional. All right. This is not the like my friends that were, you know, doing golf and beer and pizza in college. He was he would get prepared for a serious career. Is this. You know, when your passions get now, obviously, you don’t want education, not teaching, but also do a lot of networking with students, you know, across different universities. Is this is this typical for this level of engagement, this in twenty nineteen?

[00:25:35] Not really. I mean he’s he’s kind of exceptional in terms of just having the vision. And that’s why I was curious about his mentorship, who he had to encourage him to do those types of things. People. It’s interesting. I know if you remember, Carm, we met on the 50 yard line at Mercedes Benz Field. That’s when we officially met. We were on a tour there and that’s where we come. So that’s very cool. He was I said, who are you and what are you doing here at this Apex event?

[00:25:58] He said, Oh, well, I’m okay. That’s fine. Yeah. Yeah. Typical Chris Barnes. Yeah. So who are you? Some.

[00:26:04] It’s just along the students side. And you have it, you’re in a unique position to kind of maybe coach students that are in college now are coming up. Right. What? So I talk to students all the time. I can tell them what I think people do. But give us a perspective on two things. One, what do you do every day? I mean, it’s good thing to talk about strategy while carrying a selection of procurement. But what exactly are you doing? One and then two. Everybody wants to know what kind of tools. There’s an excel, obviously, that you know, the office space things. What types of tools should people be focused on?

[00:26:37] Absolutely. So the project which I’m focusing on and this is something just because I’ve been like two months new to this role, there’s obviously lots to learn. The project I’m focusing on is really a data strategy project, which I initially talked about and really understanding on how to create a logical data structure for Dell’s digital supply chain, because today data is being housed in multiple different systems like Agile Glow via a lot of different systems where it which housed data from a procurement perspective or from a supplier base perspective or from a product perspective. And today companies are asking about how can we really create a master data where all data elements can really reside in one system, both real time data and data, which is static. I think that is a project which I’m focusing on and kind of the data do really involves using tools like Excel and ballpoint, obviously. But even being even I’m saying I took on all tricks, which I’ve kind of started like up like starting understanding is it’s a very powerful kind of sequel. Plus excel on steroids because it’s able to crunch 2 million plus rows and like three or four seconds. Wow. So today I think data analytics platforms like Power be-I and all tracks are really making their way into spaces in an internal strategy groups within the Supply chain.

[00:27:59] That’s great to hear.

[00:28:00] So are you.

[00:28:01] Are you sitting behind your screen all day with the computer, just looking at data and trying to figure out what it means or now I think I think is a good bonds between going out of room and whiteboarding thoughts because either strategy group, you’re obviously thinking about ishow trees and frameworks and how to kind of break down problems into digestible chunks, as well as being able to validate our hypotheses using data and using and crunching like data and crunching numbers. So I think it’s a good bonds of being with a team and whiteboarding thoughts and sharing different perspectives because like what one person’s strategy is, it’s not the strategy of 17 other people. So really having that consensus and really understanding where we come from and then kind of validating your hypotheses using different logical arguments and data really helps us validate what the said. So I think it’s a good bonds between kind of high level problem solving and kind of jumping into the weeds and solving and using data outstanding.

[00:28:55] When you’re in those whiteboarding sessions, can you speak to you? Yesterday, we talked a lot about diversity of opinion and perspectives and inclusivity. Speak to when when you’re solving the problems and you’re laying out and plotting strategy, how you want to have a variety of voices in a room. How how important is that?

[00:29:12] I think it’s incredibly important because like your train of thought is not necessarily somebody else’s train of thought. Somebody might approach a problem from a top down approach. Somebody might approach a problem for bottoms up approach somebody. You might divide this problem in an internal and external factors. Somebody might divide this problem using customer or competitor or whatever different frameworks are exist. So there’s so many different ways to break down a problem. Like if you think about, oh, how do I want to lose weight? Right. You can lose weight by a surgery. You can lose weight by working out. You can lose weight by eating healthier. You know, like there’s so many different ways to think about a problem. And I think just in those whiteboarding sessions, I’m really able to understand not only not only whiteboard about things in supply chain things charge you, but even with personal life decisions. It really helps you kind of break down choices which I make into a kind of chunks and into different phases. So I think those wide boring sessions are incredibly helpful to gain diversity of thought, which I think is very important in the workplace.

[00:30:14] A bit. It is fascinating. I can only imagine how cool that is to start your career in general, but also in supply chain and doing stuff like that for an iconic brand that Dell is.

[00:30:26] Yeah. I mean, Dell was a disruptor in terms of supply chain early on when they started. I mean, computers weren’t made. The wait Dell made them in in Mass.

[00:30:38] Like we’ve got a Paul Harvey, the rest of the story coming.

[00:30:40] No, I’m not going to. If we don’t have time to extrapolate on that.

[00:30:43] But I mean, they were the originators of in transit. Right. Key postponement, mass customization, whatever you want to call it. But they really they were the originators of the keyboard. You’re coming from vendor A. The screens are coming from vendor B, the c.p user coming from vendor C, and they all gonna be there on the right time.

[00:30:59] They had to be because Michael Dell started the company in his dorm room in early heavy duty Austin. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, he wasn’t making this stuff right. He he found good componentry and put it together and got people to buy a car and just a little bit more on that.

[00:31:15] So I frequently suggest to students that you the technical skills are important to have. That’s gotta get you the job. But once you have a job, it’s important to be able to speak, write and present. Am I over amplifying that ability to present? If you could kind of talk about that was. Did you have a communications class along your curricula that helped with that something while I was at Georgia Tech?

[00:31:38] I think since I was involved with a lot of different student organizations, naturally every week we had to give progress updates or we’d really had to kind of speak in an impromptu fashion. So I think I developed a lot of my communication skills that’s outside the classroom at Georgia Tech, and I think that is a transferable skills darkly into the workplace. Right. And today I think what really separates a good individual from an outstanding individual or an outstanding from a good individual is the fact that are you able to tell me everything that’s important to me within a minute to minute and a half, if you’re riding on for twenty, twenty five minutes trying to tell me different topics. It’s not really important to me, Rod, because executives today want to hear the key insights in the most like crunch talk fashion. So I think communication is incredibly important and being present to thoughts is even more.

[00:32:32] You know, I enjoyed Khanh when you spoke. I think the same event Chris is talking about. We had a regional Supply chain leadership conference that Tech hosted and you pube it with your colleague Neil Neil presented. I did and Neil did. And he was here. One of your successors.

[00:32:49] Right. So I think Neil took on the leadership of apic George Tech right after me.

[00:32:54] Yes, that’s right. You mean when Neil came out and Neil Patel came out and addressed the crowd? And it’s like you this the same mold you folks can stand deliver when you’re undergraduates and and also communicate succinctly, which so many folks, myself included, are terrible at. But it’s really fast. So let’s talk about let’s make sure we frame up your tips for starting where we’re not. What do we. Have we not broke? Stone, in terms of your tips for starting a supply chain career, I think no one is hustling hard, right?

[00:33:26] I think if I had, I wouldn’t have gotten those three different internship experiences. If I did, I’d be on the lookout for those experiences. Right. Like nobody’s gonna come knocking on your door saying, hey, this is an opportunity available to you.

[00:33:37] No, I’d like an opportunity as it gets you out of bed and drag you to it. Right. Exactly.

[00:33:41] I think you’re going to go out fishing for it in the sea. I think that has been one of the key lessons I’ve learned in college and something which I wanna tell all upcoming professionals and students in college is that try to get diverse work experiences while you’re in the collegiate environment, because there is absolutely no risk of failing. You know that you’re going to get different experiences. You’re going to get defined. Austria’s go to different geographies, expand your horizons. Like if you want to do something, go do it. Because once you start working, it’s hard to switch. It’s hard to get different experiences. It’s hard to go to different geographies. It’s like depending on what the business really needs. But I think while you’re in a college environment, definitely hustle hard for different experiences. I think my second tip would be start early. Right. I think what really allowed me to get these experiences was the fact that I started all of this in sophomore year. So definitely start early. Like you don’t have to figure out eight or Zio 41 doing life within the force one or two years. But definitely position yourself to be involved is to an organizations being involved in leadership activities, be involved in internships, be involved in conferences and talks like these, because I think that’s what kind of widens your perspective and allows you to get a foot in the door.

[00:34:58] You know, also, one of the things I’m hearing you say kind of through through like your commentary is you’ve got put yourself out there. Right. You’ve got to get out of your comfort zone. Right. You got to lead. You got to raise your hand. I volunteer, you know, cause it doesn’t come. Vanja. And these experiences temper you, right? And they and they get you prepared for for doing big things like you’re doing now. And so many folks know, Chris, we’ve seen we’ve seen it through the chapter. Very few folks volunteer to lead in and very few folks will are willing to get out of their comfort zone. And that’s only that’s one of the few ways you can really. Grow and develop and take on new things, right?

[00:35:35] Yeah. Very few people that not only do they not volunteer to lead, they don’t volunteer to follow either.

[00:35:40] That’s true. I mean, you do have to get yourself out there. Look, I think healthy Sheer.

[00:35:44] I’ve heard I’ve heard this and we’ve all probably heard this throughout our lives. Right. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. I would argue that that’s a fallacy as well. It’s not it’s not even who you know. It’s who knows you, right? Yeah, right. That’s the key. I know a lot of people who don’t know me and I don’t offer them anything. But if somebody knows you and these internships and and involvement on campus and around campus, they’re great opportunities for people to get to know you. And the truth is, the job market, even though there are more workers than jobs out there, it’s it’s still very, very difficult. And to be seen as exceptional, you have to engage with people. We didn’t know you right before today. We didn’t know you. And we didn’t really. I did.

[00:36:28] Okay. I’m part of we we didn’t all know you.

[00:36:34] Right. And now more people know you and know how exceptional you are. And every opportunity you can get to get out there and and express and be yourself out there in the world is a great opportunity. I think that is a lesson as well as long as we’re teaching our lessons to millennials. Yeah, that is a lesson that needs to be taught, right. People can’t learn you from this. They can’t learn you from the pictures. You have to get out there and you don’t engage with people.

[00:36:59] All right. So moving. Let’s let’s transition. We only use the last segment of this interview to dove into something I know your real passion about. We’ve kind of set the table all right. For this last topic. So we want to talk with Khan about why millennials are perfect for supply chain. So I think we’ve got three or four items, right, that that that kind of give you this position. So let’s start with the first one.

[00:37:24] Something to just kind of establish context to this jerai. There are so many people out there who are graduating college and they’re considering careers that consulting and banking, which obviously great careers to be in. But I think very few people are thinking about being Industrial is like manufacturing Logistics just because they realize, oh, this is very slow and this is or I’m not going to learn a lot and a limited amount of time. Right. But I think that is that is kind of falls from the experiences I’ve had in mind during ships and so far at Dell. And I think there are three or four reasons why millennials should be excited about the field of supply chain. Number one is around Supply chain as a concept. Today is an incredibly complex concept, although it’s it’s comprised of different moving parts. Today, millennials want to be in roles which are challenging and they want to be roles in which a cross-functional and they want to have roles which have high impact. And as we initially talked about how Supply chain is really an interconnected network, they’re complex problems happening at every part of the supply chain, whether it’s a sustainable issue, whether it’s an issue on procurement, whether it’s an issue in manufacturing, whether it’s an issue about delivering it to customer at the right time, whether it’s same day delivery. There are complex problems happening at every segment of the supply chain. And while millennials today want to use their technical and analytical skills to the fullest enroll, they’re not they don’t want to run the mill jobs, wages in putting data into Excel, you just inputting data into systems. They really want to be at the forefront of crafting strategies backed by their Technical analytical skill sets. And I really gone thing off of a more interesting field. Dan Supply chain to be in for this, I agreed.

[00:39:14] And they want to do meaningful work and make an impact. And I think on the flip side of that, it takes leaders that are willing to give meaningful projects and task and initiatives and you name and guidance to in guidance to these these folks just kind of breaking into industry. And, you know, we don’t have to look far. We’ve got team members on our team here at Supply Chain Now Radio that have taken, you know, taken the bull by the horns and have made a huge impact.

[00:39:43] Can we get Clay to come on camera? Who didn’t? Probably not. Nope, but not one chance.

[00:39:49] But, you know, lead more and more leaders had the challenge for them is to give up something off their plate. The app, these bright, very capable professionals that were sitting in one right now, they can do big things, but it takes leaders that are willing to kind of let go a little bit, right?

[00:40:07] Absolutely. I think this is more I got to tell you, I have to say this. I’m sorry, but I did a big article on millennials. And everyone is so dumbfounded by how you manage millennials. Look, every generation is different than the past generation. That’s right. They’re not. They’re not. Aliens. Right. I mean, they’re not some sort of apparition. It’s. And they’re not all millennials. They’re, you know, don’t buy or hire. Ah, yeah. Right. There are unique nieces among among millennials. They’re not all heads down on their you know, on their devices. They’re not all, you know, unable whatever. They’re not all able to do or unable to do the same things. Right. And I think it it’s a bit of a dangerous generalization. Just like any generalization, all baby boomers are not the same. All Gen Xers are not the same. All millennials are not the same. But there are certain aspects there are certain things about millennials that that you can you can use or guide or extract. Right. In a business environment.

[00:41:12] And I think, you know, it’s just good for us to recognize that nothing fresh ideas and fresh perspectives like today, if somebody in Supply chain has been there for 20 or 21 years, they have one way of doing things. But when you bring in Southwire always done, right? Yeah, like that’s how historically has been done. And that in their mind is the right way. But when you have young supply chain talent coming in into the workforce, like how Dell kind of has 20 or 40 people who join every single year into a different debarked within supply chain, you’re challenging assumptions. And I feel as millennials, we are out there to challenge assumptions. Obviously, we’re we’re learning in in the right way. But I think changing assumptions is available and the concept and I think that’s very helpful in the Supply chain Patel as well.

[00:41:59] I think you might lutely I think you might be amazed that Gen X is pretty good at challenging assumptions. I mean, we we were brought up. We were the first digital generation. Right. It’s just that the predominance of. People who use non digital and and other types of of applications still remain in the workplace, though they are exiting the workplace at 10000 per day. That generation has been sort of washed over and held back by by that as well. But I think if you embrace some of your Generation X leaders, you will see their willingness briberies to change things.

[00:42:37] All right. So the first of the first of your reasons why millennials are perfect for supply chain is they enjoy that challenging nature of work, right? Absolutely. So what’s next?

[00:42:46] Selvin Next one is around how millennials today are demanding consumers themselves, right? Today, if I’m having a coffee and I love I love coffees, I’m always going to go back to the example of the coffee cup in my hand. Right. I really want to think about, OK, where is this coffee being sourced from? Is it being ethically sourced or I shop a lot on Amazon and every Malanda today is like Amazon is something that they obviously go to. How many different touch points is my Amazon package covering when it reaches my final door like ten or fifteen years back? All that cared about is has it been ship hasn’t been delivered. But today I want to know what are the defend bots in his journey when it gets to my my home? Right. So I think supply chain as a field can have direct applicability to millennial input as far as consumer preferences go, because if you really want, millennials will have an understanding of how their goods should be produced or what are the different goods. You own metrics to be taken into consideration. What are the preferences I should have as a consumer, which is supply chain supply chain should consider and kind of that direct relation between what a consumer ends up getting to how supply chain is such an integral part of its manufacturing. I think millennials, since they’re such teamone consumers, have a very interesting input into the supply chain field.

[00:44:10] You know, these days it’s not nearly as challenging and as it is in previous decades to identify and gage and measure that demand. Transparency. Yeah.

[00:44:21] Is is a lot more available than it’s been in the past or that they’d be able to see through the supply chain to the Southwire.

[00:44:28] But I also think about it just at our fingertips. Mean we’re measuring you can measure means of people with where they go on the web, right. Yeah. How much time they spend here, what they click on. All of that are such powerful information to determine what the demand is. I mean what a corser transaction per per ProPurchaser purchases, which has more visibility than ever before. You know, you remember back when these card supermarkets were first rolled out, I think we had the bonus card at Foodland when I was growing up. Yeah. And, you know, didn’t dawn on me as I was getting, you know, Captain Crunch or something, that it was they were tracking purchases. I was looking to get a discount of cabin crew. Sorry, but that was early. Tracking tools has just evolved where every single footstep in a retail environment is being mapped, right? Literally, yeah. Yes, it is.

[00:45:18] It absolutely is. What you’re looking at as well as what you’re buying, what you’re looking at not selecting is. I mean, that’s how transparent commerce is these days. Right. Right, right.

[00:45:28] And I think that’s part of what, to your point. KAHN That’s part of since millennials and genze, which is is matriculating into the workforce, they’re used to that environment and they bring, I think, powerful opinions and perspectives on how to how to leverage that information and that data for so companies can optimize or supply chain or optimize or go to market position or what have you, right. Yeah.

[00:45:53] They were brought up with with these technologies and with these things. Look, you create an expectation based on what is what you’re imprinted with. Right, at an early age. Ryan and you all were imprinted with technology at a very, very early age. So when the presumption there that technology should solve the problem is imprinted, right? That’s the presumption on, you know, to go back to our our generation. You’re not a millennial. Didn’t did the X-Man crowds in the the you know, on ours, it was maybe technology could solve the problem here. This generation, we’ve raised them to expect that technology can solve the problem.

[00:46:30] So you’re foreshadowing your final point?

[00:46:33] That is absolutely right. That was that was actually the point for a certain TV. Laughs. Spike the football force card.

[00:46:40] So I think the thought I think by far one of the most important reasons why millennials should be in Supply chain is that technology savviness off this wall of this like day and age, as well as how supply chain today can not. And I use a what can not function without being technology enabled. Right. Today we want data on how exactly consumers are thinking. Today we want to be able to predict what the lead time to a customer should be. Today we want to be able to kind of replace all man Process says with automation in the supply chain. Today we want where? Zeze, to have robots and stuff, humans doing auto picking for us. So technology today is something which is becoming increasingly, increasingly boring supply chain and that’s something a supply chain cannot do without. And today, like in college and throughout like my 18 years, we are literally born with a phone and a hand. We are we are glued to the screens. And it’s not only being just glued to the screen, but it’s also about life. We are very keen on what the new technologies are going to be. We love to kind of tune into the Apple keynotes every single year to really understand what technologies there are going on. So I think just because of the inherent interest of this day and age to be involved in technology and how supply chain today cannot function without being enabled by a strong technological backbone, I feel that the best kind of bar that these two across all Greene supply chain technologies from millennials to get involved with this field because the future of supply chain is a digital supply chain. It is. And I think that’s my final point is how technology savvy the day and ages.

[00:48:19] I would say the current state of Supply chain is digital bright. It’s no longer around the corner right now. You alluded to this on the front end of your interview about the digital transformation. Some that those initiatives you’re part of, right? Resistance is futile, right? It is here and alive and well. And there are companies like Bill, like many others that have embraced that. Right. And are figuring it out and doing it as a and doing it as they figured out maybe.

[00:48:50] So I’d argue that resistance is fatal at this point. I like that. It’s it’s worse than futile. I mean. But I you know, I came up in an industry that in the 90s was highly digital in the Supply chain, and I remain amazed at how far behind certain industries are. That have broader margins, often that’s what drives it in your industry. You have very tight margins. So you have to be very, very precise. Right. And we had tight margins. But but where the industries have a is a good example that we were talking about before. You know, I remain amazed at how much spreadsheet, how we presume that a spreadsheet is one of the tools that we’ll use or something like that. So I think they’re. Yeah.

[00:49:40] I think there is a nice faith. Fatal. That’s more it’s more than futile. It’s fatal. It. Well, hey, but I like it. I like that.

[00:49:47] And also like like what Chris said. Well, minutes ago. Hours ago. It feels like folks are just not volunteering to lead. They’re not volunteering to follow. That’s a good one. Let’s wrap up on this. He picks lands, one of our sponsors here at Supply Chain Now Radio. We’ve got a lot of respect and we admire that organization, which is now AFC seems a parent organization, of course. And Chris, I know you were talking in the warm up kind of the the overall kind of a high level overview of the impact that your AP6 involvement had on your career. Well, you’ve already alluded to it a couple different ways. But if you’re if you’re talking to undergraduates that maybe haven’t had the epiphany you had as a sophomore. Right. And regardless, supply chain, you name it. What would you want to tell those folks, not just about a pick, but also about Apex and just engagement in college?

[00:50:40] Absolutely. I think the first and most important thing which I learned from my experience and I think from all my different user experience on campus is take risks, right. That there is so much there’s absolutely nothing to lose. Like fail fast, fail often fail cheap. That’s a phrase which my dad often seems to me. He’s a life coach and he really talks about how fairly quick because like you own you get to Mr. Shores, you don’t decide to do. Right. Definitely try something. Worst case, you’ll fail. So I think no one advice to any undergraduates graduate or anybody who isn’t a collegiate environment is take risks because there’s very less to lose. Number two is, which I learned from the experience, is sometimes when you going to put yourselves out there as a sophomore? I was leading students who were juniors and seniors. And today in the workplace, you’re going to be at a position where your staff or people below you are going to be older than you. And sometimes they may not believe you. Sometimes you might challenge you. But that’s all. All for the right reasons. I really learned about bulletproof leadership. It’s really about leading from the front, but also how to lead without a title, right? Like if somebody was more experienced than you, even though you might have a better talent, you lower down that title because you’re going to learn so much more from their experience and they’re going learn so much from you, especially if they’re older, especially if they’re more experienced.

[00:52:07] I think bulletproof leadership is a second thing, which I learned from involvement. And third thing I learned is just like enjoy. I like that for years in college, these yards will never come back. Today, I’m back in Atlanta and I just reminisce all my days in college. Right. So even though I just graduate, if I was six months back, I think college is it is a time of alive life which will option never come back or talk to your parents. If you talk to people who are older like your friends, which you’re making college, are you gonna be our friends for life? So I think that taught part in while you guys are still in college and still learning a lot is just enjoy whether you’re learning inside the classroom, outside the classroom, doing whatever on the weekends, just absolutely enjoy because this time will never come back, ever. Those are kind of my three tips on what people write down college should do to kind of set themselves up for success. Love it.

[00:52:59] Well, you and you’re hearing it from someone that that navigate through one of the toughest universities, write programs and broken to the supply chain space with name-brand organizations to a big thing. So if you want to be like corn, listen to his helpful perspective. I wish I’d heard you on about 20 years ago. All right. So one of the big things we could easily bolt on a couple more hours to the Congress likes to. I think it is is fascinating and out and I think it’s fascinating to me because of just, you know, how young ja and slackware we’re now talking with a sage, someone this spike of malice.

[00:53:39] Yeah. We need to introduce you to Mike Miura.

[00:53:41] He also could be a dynamic power duo. Yeah. All right. So big. Thanks. Karan Agrawal, we want to we want to bring you back. You know, maybe after a few more months, as you continue to do big things that deal global operation strategy analyst with Daryl. Enjoy your time here this weekend. You got big plans. And safe travels back to Texas.

[00:54:02] Thanks a lot, Scott. And thanks a lot, team, for having me over. It’s an absolute pleasure privilege to be on this talk show at 22.

[00:54:10] So it really is. Thank you so much. Well, great having you.

[00:54:15] Yes, absolutely. I think we all learned. I’ve got three pages of notes. I really enjoyed it. All right. So don’t go anywhere. We’re going to wrap up today’s segment on Want Invite the audience, come check us out at a variety of trade shows we’re broadcasting live from before. But before we talk about that, Chris, one of the eight picks, Elana has got a variety of classes I think you’re leading. Speaking at Georgia Tech and like you’re leading classes next week, right?

[00:54:40] That’s right. We got a sold out CSICOP certified Supply chain professional class Monday through Wednesday afternoon.

[00:54:48] And if you had to, in a very small nutshell, why while CSICOP for folks, it’s just a it’s a 50000 foot view of the supply chain.

[00:54:56] It’s not you’re not going to learn how to do things, what you’re gonna learn, what’s going on across the extended supply chain.

[00:55:03] Outstanding. And you can learn more about all of that training that Chris. And then the whole team trained, not just here in Atlanta, but Chattanooga regionally. You can go to PIC’s Atlanta dot org to learn more. And we appreciate their sponsorship here. Okay. So beyond that, we’ve got a slew of events coming up starting next week.

[00:55:21] Greg, we’re we’re we’re going we’re going back to Charleston, back to Charleston, South Carolina, competes Council on Competitiveness. I said the whole thing that I’m South Carolina. Council on Competitiveness for their tech talk. So that’s the 23rd in beautiful Charleston. And I’m gonna say it again. Dinner at Magnolia’s.

[00:55:43] Absolutely. We, you know, registration’s still open. You can go to SC Competes, stop at war. But we’ve started to assemble our interview schedule.

[00:55:54] And it’s really I think we’re interviewing our friend Mike Amowitz again from South Carolina ports, correct?

[00:56:00] Maybe so. I got fast fetch. I’ve got CHF pilots, we’ve got Syntheo, we have DHL ship chain, which is doing some really interesting thing. Santoyo and ship chain. That’s cool stuff. ATDC, Logistics, you name it, a bunch of different folks that we’re gonna be interviewing throughout the day on October 23rd, but you can go to SC Competes dot org to learn more and still sign up I think. I think there’s still space available. We’re looking forward to being there throughout the event. And then we’re gonna be in Carns, neck of the woods in Austin, Texas. November 7th and 8th for the EAFE 2019 Logistics CIO forum.

[00:56:37] Yeah. Our friends at t_f_t_ just got acquired by Reuters events. So now CFT reuters’ events. Logistics CIO forum. Yeah. So we’re gonna help you keep it weird, huh?

[00:56:49] Oh yes. We’re gonna bring you back.

[00:56:52] Talk about your awesome experiences next time. Cause we’re looking forward to that. And registration is still open for that. We’ve started to build our interview schedule. In fact, our leadoff interview is with the chief technology officer with thaat Hub, which is a really interesting company based right here in Atlanta.

[00:57:07] About three hundred CEOs sharing ideas and information, fantastic venue and then context at the end of the year.

[00:57:16] We’re talking with a few of the folks for consumer events. But counter flips, we are doing a lab broadcast at SC Competes Atlanta roundtable in January. They’re going to have their exact the executive director of NASCAR track speaking. Can’t talk about some of the regulation changes and how it’s impacting the transportation industry. The Reverse Logistics Association Conference and Expo in Vegas in February.

[00:57:39] Yeah, great time of year to be in Vegas. Greene. And a really, really prominent topic these days.

[00:57:47] It is. And I hope people show up, not just go to Vegas. I guarantee that a long time to be in Vegas. That’s right. That’s right.

[00:57:53] But you know, that is it is a compelling aspect of supply chain. And we kicked off or reverse Logistics series several months back with our great friend Tony Shroder, who is executive director of the RLA. And it has resonated, you know, that that space does not get enough attention. Right.

[00:58:09] Talk about a great ability to support sustainability. Right. Reverse Logistics. I mean, you know, some of this stuff that’s being returned, it’s just being thrown out. Amazon has now been compelled to have a a way to continue to make use of return goods. And I think that’s a great thing.

[00:58:26] It will are the RLA doing a great, great job getting proliferating out best practices in such a critical aspect of Indian supply chain. And I’m also excited that we are bringing back Jack Allen. We are one of the great Supply chain Liegghio. Cisco is going to be on the show in November and he is how he does, Locky notes. He is a home run. He’s speaking of digital supply chain or digital Logistics, amongst other subjects. He’s a great gress, great guest. Looking forward to his appearance. Okay. So then beyond February 1 last announcement, mutex twenty one, the largest supply chain trade shows in in North America. Thirty five thousand folks are expecting Motet show dot com is free to attend. They are hosting our 20:20 Atlanta Supply chain awards. Yeah, we’re really excited about that. And we have one of our bright future award-winner. Right?

[00:59:14] If they did, we let that skip is his bio. Yeah. All right. We were timing it. Right? Very good.

[00:59:20] So the casebook can close that loop as part of the 2020 Atlanta Supply chain Awards. We’ll do what we did last year where we reach out to local universities and they name one of their leading students that have that have a. Well, a bright future ahead. Right. Exactly what is only a word. Khan was the winner from Georgia Tech last year and clearly living up to the billing. Serious this like a case study behind the award. Yeah, he’s doing big thing.

[00:59:48] Just like we knew, you know, like he won the Heisman and then didn’t do anything like that.

[00:59:53] Yeah, but so March 10, 2020. The 2020 Atlanta Supply chain would take place. Keynote. Shane Cooper, executive director with the Atlanta Committee for Progress. Christian Fisher, President, CEO of Georgia Pacific will be our keynote. You can learn more at a simple u._r._l. Atlanta Supply chain awards. Com Registration, sponsorship and nominations are all open. Yeah. Thanks to our incredible web development team and chief marketing officer Sheer Amanda. Okay. Good stuff. Well, big thanks again. Kahn It’s a pleasure. Sit back down. I think if if hopefully our listeners enjoyed as much as I did, you inspire people. And so whatever you’re doing, keep doing it right. Because folks need to hear your experiences and your key takeaways. So I’m glad that we could spend less our hour getting some of that out. Share that with our audience. So best of luck and we will see you next time you’re in town. Thanks God. Chris Barnes, great to have you back from your regional travels. You’ve got to get a charter plane for long. It’s always good to be back. Absolutely. And Greg, great week of shows. I think we had a Sheer just about every day this week, right?

[01:01:05] Yeah, we’ve been we’ve been burning it up, getting here to our our new studio, which I love, the Sandeep Supply chain Innovation Center.

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