In this episode of This Week in Business History, Scott is joined by special guest Jenny Froome, COO of SAPICS, a leading provider of knowledge in supply chain management, production and operations in South Africa. Join the dynamic duo as they trace the origins of the hot dog, debate confectionery nomenclature (“hard candy” or “boiled sweets”?) and explore the success story of a little company you may have heard of called Intel. Jenny also shares the history and legacy of Nelson Mandela Day, held every July 18, and how 67 minutes could jump start the changes you wish to see around the world.

Scott Luton (00:12):

Good morning, Scott Luton here with you on this edition of this week in business history. Welcome to today’s show on this program, which is part of the supply chain. Now family of programming. We take a look back at the upcoming week, and then we share some of the most relevant events and milestones from years past, of course, mostly business focused with a little dab global supply chain. And occasionally we might just throw in a good story outside of our primary realm. So I invite you to join me on this. Look back in history to identify some of the most significant leaders, companies, innovations, and perhaps lessons learned in our collective business journey. Now let’s dive in to this week in business history. Hey, good morning, Scott Luton and Jenny F here with you on the latest edition of this week in business history, live Jenny, how you doing?

Jenny Froome (01:21):

Hi, really great. Back from a month on a holiday or vacation. So I can’t complain.

Scott Luton (01:27):

<laugh> well, you know, we, we are well overdue for a catch up call. We gotta talk that vacation on holiday. I saw some gorgeous images you shot. Of course, you’ve had the wonderful, safe pick conference, which was what a month or two ago.

Jenny Froome (01:42):

Yeah, six weeks ago. It seems like a lifetime

Scott Luton (01:45):

<laugh> and we’re, we’re gonna touch on this here in a few minutes. The Africa supply chain excellence award. So all of that, but in a lot more cause today, of course, is, is biz history live right now? Some folks may know Jenny biz history focuses on the lesser known stories of leaders and innovation at the intersection of you guest at business and history who would’ve think a new episode drops every Tuesday, which includes replays of these live sessions with guests from around the world. And Jenny, you and I were talking about those handcrafted masterpieces that Kelly Barner continues to churn out earlier. And, you know, so we kind of swap it every Tuesday. It’s her stories, which are some of the best in the business on, on one Tuesday. And then next Tuesday is kind of the replays of these live sessions, where we touch on a little bit of everything like we’re gonna do today. So Jenny, how’s that sound to you first?

Jenny Froome (02:39):

Well, I love, you know, I was saying to you, my first one I ever listened to was, was the monologue about Rose Knox, which was about powder gelatin. I learned so much. And then I’ve heard Kelly, I think she talked about escalators and where they came from and how they were developed. And she just takes everyday things that I guess we just take for granted. And as soon as she starts talking about them, you think, why have I never wondered about this before? So it’s such a great thing to listen to and you truly, I’ve learned loads of stuff, stuff I never needed to know really, but it’s stuff I’m really glad I, cuz I know I can bore people with all the exciting things I know <laugh>

Scott Luton (03:20):

Well, you know, that’s the best from where I sit. That’s been the best part of this series because it’s like, it’s like this episode here. So, you know, the most recent episode of biz history was like Kelly foreigner produced show it focused on John Wannamaker the merchant prince, as she puts of Philadelphia, John Wannamaker was due to me, but Jenny, this gentleman was the, he coined the word department store here in the states. He was the first retailer in the states to use price tags. And, and that’s just a tip of the spear amongst all the innovations that he made. And you know what, arguably at least new to me, I’ve never heard of John Wannamaker and that’s kind of the main thrust. You know, we, we talk about some of the, the regular stories and, and leaders and innovators. But as often as we can, we try to lift up these stories that maybe history has forgotten. So to our listeners, check out this latest episode, wherever they get your podcasts. And of course you can Google this week in business history and make sure you subscribe. So you don’t miss a thing. So John Wannamaker, I’m assuming Jenny, that was new to you as well.

Jenny Froome (04:23):

Totally, absolutely. There’s a, there’s a big acting family in the UK called the Wannamaker. I think he was Sam Wannamaker was American. Okay. So I wonder whether there’s a link there somewhere, but no, very interesting.

Scott Luton (04:34):

Hey, blessed be the ties that bond and, and gosh, you could do a little digging and there, and there’s so many great links that we all gotta lift up and celebrate, you know, much like our links for years now, Jenny, after we met in Chicago at an industry association event, we’ve collaborated a number of different ways, mostly focused on like supply chain and, and global business. And today I’m so thrilled to have you here where we can just really enjoy our time and talk all kinds of random factoids from the landscape of biz history. So are you buckled up and ready to go?

Jenny Froome (05:05):

I’m ready for all your random stuff, Scott.

Scott Luton (05:07):

<laugh> okay. Look, I’ll try to keep it random stuff and not ramblings.

Jenny Froome (05:11):

No, no, no. And I’ve got a few I’ve found a few random things <laugh> okay. So be warned.

Scott Luton (05:16):

Hey, really quick. Wanna give a shout out to the whole production team, helping to make today’s show happen. Of course, Amanda, Luton’s behind the scenes ready to go. Katherine hints is behind the scenes. Ready to go? Appreciate all of your good work here today. And folks, uh, if you’re catching us live, Hey, use those comments. Let us know what you’re thinking. We’re gonna be talking about things from hot dogs to candy, to computer chips, to Mandela day, you name it. So we want to hear from you as well. Okay. So Jenny with no further ado, let’s, let’s dive right into the first topic. One of our favorite things around here at Luton family household. So we’ve got about, I think we’ve got about five things we’re gonna dive into today. So the first one here, Jenny’s national hotdog day here in the states. Now the hot dog.

Scott Luton (06:02):

Yes. The hot Flut hot dog has a very long and complicated history. So for our time today, I’m gonna kind of focus on a shortened version here for simplicity’s sake. And it all begins with the German Frankfurter, which dates back to about the 13th century is probably the most ancient for bear to the hot dog. Now, the first to combine Jenny, I didn’t realize this was such a, a, a big mark in the hot dog’s history, but it’s really all about combining the sausage with the bun, which formed a modern day hot dog. And there’s lots of claims at least here in the states of who was the first to do that. You know, sausage certainly is not. It. Sausage is a celebrated global dish and all of its incarnations and reincarnations, but hot dogs here in the states, as we know them today began to pop up around the beginning of the 20th century. So Jenny, have you ever heard of Nathan’s hotdogs? Nathan’s famous.

Jenny Froome (06:56):

I think I, I think I have, I think it was in one of my favorite programs, which is I, we just mentioned it, but somebody feeds Phil. Yes. And I think that, I think that he makes a big deal about Nathan’s hotdog. I could be wrong, but I have heard,

Scott Luton (07:10):

So Jenny, I’m glad you mentioned that show. Cause I know it’s one of your favorites. You’ve shared it with us. I think they’re in like season two or maybe even three. So the world all around all around the world, folks love Phil five mm-hmm <affirmative> fifth season mm-hmm <affirmative> okay. And we can find that on Netflix, right?

Jenny Froome (07:26):

Yeah. Yeah. I just love watching anything about food, eating food and anyone else who loves food. So

Scott Luton (07:32):

<laugh> yeah. See, that’s why we get along so well with it

Jenny Froome (07:34):

Kid spirit,

Scott Luton (07:35):

Strong kindred spirits in that regard. Good. Um, uh, Amanda says love, love Jenny and excited to hear her contributions today, today and every day. I’m with you, Amanda. And Catherine’s getting back to the, uh, the hotdog topic here. Does anyone else consider Costco hot dogs, a delicacy? Catherine, I’ve heard so much about the Costco pizza. You gotta tell me more about these Costco hot dogs who have to talk offline, but Jenny check this out. So this is a picture of the famous, the historic Coney island boardwalk here in the states in Brooklyn with Nathan’s that’s Nathan’s famous hotdog stand and folks enjoying it. Folks look like they’re lined up for it. And this is where this location here is where they have each year here in at, in front of Nathan’s famous there. The Nathan’s hot dog eating contest on the July 4th. That’s been held since 1972. And Jenny get a load of this. This still blows my mind. I just don’t know how folks do it. This year’s winter on the, on thes contest was Joey Chestnut with 63 hotdogs. Eating what?

Jenny Froome (08:44):

Brett and sausage.

Scott Luton (08:45):

Yes, that’s right. I don’t know the, I don’t have the rules right here, but you’ve gotta use both the, the sausage and the bread. And sometimes I’ve seen, I don’t watch this contest cuz it kind of makes me six a little bit too much, but you’ll see them have water, like a glass of water and they’ll soak the bread so that it goes down faster 63 hot dogs. But get this on the female winner was Miko, sudo, 40 hot dogs eating. I keep, I can barely eat two Jenny, even if I’m starving, you know

Jenny Froome (09:14):

That’s UN UN 63 is just unfathomable.

Scott Luton (09:19):

Oh my goodness gracious. So all of that as we tackle our first topic, just our first topic here today, let’s get back to the delicious side of hot dogs. Well just, you know, one or two, the non contest side. So Jenny we’re talking pre-show and I don’t know. Have you ever eaten like us type hot dog? Okay.

Jenny Froome (09:37):

I, I, I think I have, I can’t remember. I mean, I, when I was little, I was brought up in America for five years. So I guess I must have eaten a hot dog at some point. Yeah. But I can’t re

Scott Luton (09:48):

Okay, well, you know, as we were talking pre-show it much like much like any kind of sandwiches, much like, uh, bread. I mean, it’s, it’s really, the hot dog is like a vehicle that is just to get, to get the economies to you. Right. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and, and it’s also, there’s all kinds of different global variations of the hot dog. Right. But here, even in the states, even sometimes within a state, within different regions, you’ve got different traditions for what goes on a hot dog. But when I grow up, Jenny, I grew up in Aiken, South Carolina, and this is the closest image I could find to the Carolina slaw dog right now. You’ll notice there’s some chili on this hot dog. I, I learned a long time ago, what hot dog chili can do to your intestines. So, and it takes away from the slaw, but this is otherwise, it’s almost perfect. Right? You’ve got a good soft bun. It looks like a, like a red hot, you got slaw and mustard. And I bet there’s some onions on there. The only thing I would add is a lot of pepper and Tabasco. And that is my favorite slaw dog. But what is so, you know, whatever version of a hot dog, whatever version of a sandwich, what are some of your favorite condiments to put on, put on a sandwich? We’ll call it Jenny.

Jenny Froome (11:00):

Well, I I’m, I’m a big catch up fan. So immediately has to be catch up. But also I love anything to do with kins. So any kind of Gurkin relish would just finish it off. Perfect.

Scott Luton (11:14):

I’m with you. I’m with you there, you, you lost me ketchup. You know, there’s a spirit, <laugh>, there’s a spirited debate. And we, and, and I say spirited, we have a little fun with it, about ketchup on hot dogs in our family, Amanda and the kids doubled down on the ketchup. I think it is, it is a travesty to put ketchup on a hot dog, but we’ll save that debate for later. Now, Amanda, as I just point out hotdog, soft buns, ketchup mustard, and loads of diced onions.

Jenny Froome (11:43):

Yeah. But isn’t it also the debate. Do you toast your bun? Oh, do you not taste your bun? I mean, you haven’t even gone

Scott Luton (11:49):

There. That’s a great, you know, that’s a great question. I like a bun, right? Cause I don’t want the bun. If the bun’s too big, it takes away from the condiments and the hot dog and the mustard and the, and the slaw and all that working together. The bun is basically, well, get this Janet. I, I didn’t add this to their notes. Uh, I, I didn’t plan on going 20 minutes on the hot dog topic, but

Jenny Froome (12:09):

Let’s

Scott Luton (12:09):

Got Jeff Bass state in history. The states, when they first started selling hot dog type sausages vendors would actually give their customers gloves because it was hot, but they wanted to get the gloves back, you know, because they were losing, they were losing the gloves and end up losing margins. So, and that is what, according to some, that’s what gave way to the bun so that they didn’t have to give away gloves. How about that?

Jenny Froome (12:37):

That’s amazing. You see, you see, you learn stuff that you never really needed to know. <laugh> that’s what I saying. I’ve got another one for you. Okay. Did you know that Mickey mouse’s first words on screen were hotdog. Really? He probably said hotdog, but still they were hotdog <laugh> so there you

Scott Luton (12:58):

Are folks. You never know what you need to know, but you know, this week in business history, you try to prepare you for those bar games, those trivia games, you know, hopefully you can, you can win a beer off your buddy by knowing something they didn’t know. So that Jenny, that, that is a perfect ending to the first topic of hot dogs. Now, Jenny, we’re gonna move directly to another food. Another snack food I’ll call it. And that is the lollipop. So get this Jenny. So in a generic sense, humans have been eaten candy on a stick since the middle ages who would’ve had no idea. However, in 1908, George Smith, the pride of new Haven, Connecticut began making large hard candies. Maybe like these mounted on a stick. And as he was searching for a name must have been near a racetrack because George named his product after a race horse of that, of that era of the, the early night, the 20th century lo pop was the name of the race horse. So the name Jenny began to stick and began to catch on. Yeah, <laugh> no pun intended so much so that George Smith trademarked the name lollipop in 1931. So it did well now of course you got lollipop, you got sucker, you got a number of different names. Jenny, what, any, any local names where you are in South Africa for what you call?

Jenny Froome (14:23):

Well, I think, I think one of the brand names, you know, a bit like bio and a bit like Hoover that has stuck is the Shire. You know, you’ve got that, you’ve got that brand. And so they are known as that. But, but I think lollipop is a ser ser definitely here is, is one of the terminologies.

Scott Luton (14:41):

Well, I’m glad that you knew where I was going and I appreciate you bringing up the brands. Cause you know, I am a sucker for, <laugh> sorry, Jenny. I’d do it. Oh my gosh. I can, I can feel my 13 year old’s eye roll right now, but right. Which if you’re tuned in to the video side, you can see the images I’m sharing the dumb dumbs, these pop for some reason, banks and dumb dumbs, just they’re hand in hand. Every time we’d roll through the bank, the teller window or something, this is what we’d get. And gosh, I hate to admit, I can go through a bag of these, like nothing and they’re, they’re really addictive, but the blow pops, perhaps Jenny, that made by charms. That was like one of the best candies as a kid, because they were bigger. You actually got a lot of the hard candy and then better yet there’s bubble gum in the middle. So whenever you know, I’ll tell you whenever I had like even a couple of blow pops, I felt like I was living high on the hog as a kid, Jenny, but what so CPA chop, what, what was that first brand you mentioned?

Jenny Froome (15:41):

I can’t remember. What did I say? Name? It’s gone.

Scott Luton (15:43):

CPA. Chop CCHU

Jenny Froome (15:44):

Yeah. Choppa, choppa chops. I think they were Australian. I’m not sure. And then, and then suckers, you know, that’s the, that’s the, but did you know that you call it hard candy? So yeah, that and in England they call boiled sweets,

Scott Luton (15:58):

Boiled sweets,

Jenny Froome (15:58):

Boiled sweets.

Scott Luton (15:59):

Really? Yes. That

Jenny Froome (16:01):

Just doesn’t interesting fact. That

Scott Luton (16:03):

Is interesting fact musters prefer to the cooking process. I can’t imagine saying, Hey, uh, mom, I’m gonna write up to the store to get some bold sweets. It just doesn’t quite roll off the tongue or at least my tongue, but that’s Hey. Yeah, we celebrate the differences that make up. I make up this journey. All right. So Jenny, one of the question before we switch over to, I wanna learn more about a couple things you went up to lately in candies in general, whether they’re hard, candies, chocolate, whatever, what’s one of your favorite go-tos whether it was as a kid or you know, this week.

Jenny Froome (16:36):

Oh yeah. So you, you lost me at boiled sweets actually. And I, when I was thinking, no, I only love chocolate, but then I started to think about it and we used to get these things called shert dips or dip DAS. And I dunno if you have them in America where you get the lollipop and the shert dip. So you get two treats the price of one and it’s the packet. And that was really cool.

Scott Luton (16:58):

Hey, we’re gonna have to exchange, we’re gonna have to send each other gift boxes of our favorite candies. You, you had me at C love Sherbert. Amanda says bold sweets. Doesn’t sound nearly as appetizing <laugh>

Jenny Froome (17:11):

As called candy. Hot candy just sounds like jaw breaking. Right?

Scott Luton (17:15):

Well let’s so I wanna move on from, so we’ve talked hot dogs, it’s national hot dogs day. We talked about that here. We’ve talked about the history of the lollipop. You know, I’ve always wondered kind of where that term came from. So we’ve, we’ve solved that that heavy hit and mystery, right. It was a race, horse name lollipop, and a candy maker. Just kind of, uh, grasped on that. We’ve talked about some of your favorite candies, but let’s for a handful of viewers that may, where you may be new to them. Right. Cause we’ve collaborated for, for a number of years, let’s start with where are you right now? Right. Where you, where do you live right now? And then let’s talk about, I wanna talk about what you do with SAEX and then we’re gonna talk about the Africa supply chain excellence award. So Jenny, where are you right now?

Jenny Froome (17:57):

Okay. So I’m currently in a place called Midland, which is halfway between Johannesburg and Victoria in South Africa. And I’ve lived here, lived and worked here for over 25 years. Wow. But I am originally from England and arrived here via all sorts of different countries. So this is where, this is where we decided to hang our hats. And we’ve been here for 25 years.

Scott Luton (18:21):

Love it. And you’re a wonderful global traveler. I’ve learned so much from your travels beyond the pictures. It’s inspired us to get out and, and see the world and, and different societies more I’m I’m, I’m looking forward to coming to see you in Johannesburg for maybe the next annual event. So let’s talk about SAEX a minute. Cause for at those 25 years there, you and the SAEX team, you know, you’re a wonderful connect. You help facilitate learnings and education. We’ll touch on that in a minute. So what, what is pic, what do you do?

Jenny Froome (18:51):

Yeah, so, so pic is an association. It’s a member based association, but, but I’m, I guess in simplistic terms, it’s a community and it’s a community of people who work in the supply chain profession. Yep. And you know, up until two, three years ago, at this point, people would’ve gone, oh, what supply chain? Right. Those people who don’t listen to Scott regularly, but, but, and all the disasters and everything has helped us enormously in, we can now talk beyond what is supply chain. And we can start to have more in depth conversations about which part of the supply chain are part of. So, so that’s pretty much who we are and we, we do events and we educate. And we just, like you said, Scott will connect people to try to, to make people’s lives easier by sorting out their supply chains faster and more efficiently.

Scott Luton (19:49):

And it’s so, you know, it’s so important. I mean, it was important long before the pandemic. It’s only grown in importance, especially as, as we all know, you know, supply chain has enabled, uh, no, no emissions of all sorts, especially when you think of healthcare, you think of the, the, the, not the booster, the, uh, vaccine mm-hmm, <affirmative> you think of, uh, just, just keeping medical supplies, you know, throughout the pandemic and or really any kind of, of, of contingency. So it really, it’s been very fulfilling and rewarding to see the global workforce that makes up a global supply chain that makes it happen, get recognized and kind of get their due more. But as Jenny, as Greg white likes to say with that do comes a lot of responsibility and now you gotta, you gotta make it happen. Right. Mm-hmm

Jenny Froome (20:34):

<affirmative> I, I find myself quoting, don’t tell him, but I find myself quoting Greg a lot at that very first meeting that we ever had where he talked about how many years supply chain professionals had been saying, give me a seat at table. Right? And now you’ve got the seat at the table. What are you gonna do with it? And that’s the, that’s the Trump card. So,

Scott Luton (20:53):

So true.

Jenny Froome (20:54):

I think, I think that now is the time for the profession really in turn to gain its rightful place.

Scott Luton (21:01):

Agreed. Agreed. Okay. So I want to touch on one more thing before we talk about Nelson Mandela and Mandela day. So to our listeners stay tuned because if you’ve never heard of Mandela day, oh, this is a great place to be, cuz you’re gonna be challenged and inspired to, to stop and celebrate that and do something about it every year. But before we get there, Jenny, I’ve got this image shared from the Africa supply chain excellence awards, I think a first year, first year event. Right? Yep. Huge effort. It, the, it all culminated in a luncheon or a dinner this week. Big effort. Tell us more about what this program was.

Jenny Froome (21:37):

Yeah. So the dinner was last night. So hence the sort of slightly tired looking, looking eyes. Those are the magnificent flower displays that are in the middle of the tables, which were absolutely all those flowers are south African in the middle. You’ve got pro tears, which if you’ve never seen them, they are the most magnificent flowers. And this time of year in winter, it’s quite difficult to get any non indigent flowers. So I think the, the Floris did a magnificent job. Okay. But the, the program is really, it was designed to highlight supply chains in Africa because I think, you know, in the past, a lot of people have sort of thought shame Africa mm-hmm <affirmative> and you know, do they do, do people know what to do in Africa because we’ve got all the best software and all the best, this and that. And it’s actually not true.

Jenny Froome (22:25):

And there, I think there’s a lot of innovation. There’s a lot of in, well, I know there is a lot of incredible work that’s done on the continent. And uh, and so we wanted to create a platform where we could share some of the really exciting stuff, but we didn’t want to do it just as SAEX. And so we worked with a whole load of associations involved in the supply chain from the industrial engineers to the association of freight forwarded forwarders and the road freight association, et cetera. And, and really it’s a, it’s the idea of it is it’s for the industry by the industry, like any good community should do. It’s just to, to build and highlight and showcase. What’s, what’s good in what your people are doing.

Scott Luton (23:08):

I love it. I know it took a massive investment of Tom energy, love, elbow grease, and then some, I really appreciate what you and your team did there. I bet I’ve already seen, you know, across social, some of what the recognition and awards have meant for so many different people and that’s gotta be rewarding for you to see that. Right? So I, it

Jenny Froome (23:27):

Was from the diversity of things like human, human hair being used and blockchain sort of working to, to detect the origins so that it’s ethically sourced and ethically done to, to making the lives of one day old checks being transported better so that more of them survived the journey. You know, it’s these kind of stories. It’s, it’s a bit like business history, all the things that you just take for granted that you don’t know about, how do those happen? These were, these were the things that were showcased and more so

Scott Luton (23:59):

I love it. And, and we’re gonna supply chain now kind of the mothership for what this week in business history is part of, we’re gonna try to do a key takeaway show so we can talk about some of those companies and wards and the meaningfulness of it all. So Jenny big kudos to you and the whole team, all the folks that, that, uh, help make it happen. And I appreciate your, your steady and relentless leadership in this regard. So, Hey, look here, Sylvia, Judy Jenny. One of our, also one of our favorites is tuned in from Charleston, Charleston. Yeah. The wonderful supply chain ecosystem down there. She’s a big leader in that ecosystem. She joined us for the supply chain buzz last week, I guess it was gave us an update on all the stuff going on in Charleston. So great to see you Sylvia.

Scott Luton (24:45):

Okay. And also she says, uh, to Jenny, thank you for showcasing the forwarders associations and a motor carrier associations, Hey, a lot, lot of good hardworking folks and business leaders, helping them make global business and global supply chain happen. Okay. But to our listeners that are used to his history, right. I definitely wanted to make sure that we connected dots on all the cool things. Jenny Fu some of the cool things that Jenny Fu and her team were up to, but now we’re gonna get back to business history and legendary global leadership. So Jenny, just this past week, you shared with me and, and, and folks I’ll be transparent about it. I wish I knew more about all this very special occasions we celebrate across the globe Mandela day was new to me. And, and I’m embarrassed to say that, but thanks to my dear friend, Jenny, we’re, we’re gonna learn more about Nelson Mandela and Mandela day. So Jenny sure. Please share

Jenny Froome (25:39):

Brilliant. Well, I just, I think it’s a bit obvious, you know, you’re in South Africa, who are you going to talk about? That’s a historic sort of legend and it’s always got to be Nelson Mandela. And this week, Monday was actually Mandela day. So when Scott asked me, I sort of thought, oh gosh, what do I do about history? And then I thought, well, there’s no better person to talk about. And then to apply what businesses are doing to support Mandela day it’s, it’s not actually a holiday. It’s a, it’s an initiative. And it’s started, I think in 2009. And for anyone who’s been living under a rock for the last 30 years, Nelson Mandela was the first democratically elected president of South Africa. And he was a, an absolute black activist and, and wanting to, to destroy apartheid and, and created democratic country. And so he, he did this for 67 years.

Jenny Froome (26:37):

He fought for democracy. And so that’s where the 67 minutes comes up. And the idea is, is that people once a year, spend 67 minutes of their time doing something to make a difference. And, and the message is, is that all of us can do something small to make a difference. And it’s one of those, those things that the mission says, he fought for social justice for 67 years, we’re asking you to start with 67 minutes. So on an annual basis, countries and companies and individuals all around the, the country and the world, it’s a, it’s a global thing, right? They, they choose something to do, which a lot of companies are using as team building events. So there are, there are people who make blankets. There are people who go and feed the need. There are people who, who just genuinely do things that make a difference.

Jenny Froome (27:34):

And one of the things I think that people are, are trying to educate people is that we shouldn’t just be doing it once a year. We should be doing it every day. That’s right. And you know, 67 minutes compared to 67, ye 67 years, and then the 21, 27 years that he actually spent at prison for the work that he did. Wow. You know, there’s a, and, and to come out and then try to alleviate the, the, the, the apartheid scars by reconciliation, not whole reconciliation. I think that’s, it’s, it’s just a, it’s just a huge leap. And that’s a very simplistic English person’s view of this. But every year we are reminded of how important it is to do something, no matter how small to make a difference. There’s a wonderful saying that says, if you think you are too small to make a difference, you’ve never spent time with a mosquito. And <laugh>, so that’s something, you know, and I think that Mandela and, and his example that the people who sort of founded it and, and, and have made it an annual event around the world yep. Really deserve kudos because it really does start with us.

Scott Luton (28:50):

I agree. And, and I wanna get to one of your favorite quotes here in just a minute. I wanna, Sylvia, Judy says, we need a Nelson, a Nelson Mandela century. I’m with you, Sylvia. Yeah. And I also like Jenny, I loved so much you shared. And, and, and I appreciate you kind of how you couched it kind of from a, from a English speaking person, you know, cause we all view these, these holidays and these journeys very, very differently, but you know, to use, to speak to his ability, to lead and to drive change using reconciliation versus violence and, and war, you know, things have to change, but the manner and how we can drive powerful and an impactful change, you know, by building those bridges, gosh, when blessed are those, you know, blessed are the peacemakers that can drive change. So thank you so much for sharing about Nelson Mandela, a couple things I got from the foundation, the Nelson Mandela foundation, y’all can check out that on just Google it this year for Mandela day 2022, they encourage us to do what you can with what you have, where you are, right. There’s 67 minutes, Jenny. And that gives way to one of your favorite quotes. So tell us about re share this quote with us and why does it mean so much to you?

Jenny Froome (30:05):

Education is the most powerful weapon with which you can use to change the world. And for me, it’s so powerful because I’ve been privileged to have had a good education. And I live in a, on a continent where education is, is not freely available to everybody, but there is a genuine desire to, to, to make the most of, of education. And if you think about everything, every single thing that is challenging or not working properly, it’s all down to education. And it, and it, and education is not just about textbooks. That’s one of my favorite sort of things. It’s, it’s about so much more than that sessions like this at education in themselves.

Scott Luton (30:47):

You know, one last thought here and, and, and listeners, we’re gonna, hopefully you’ve learned something in the last, just couple minutes, really important learnings about an iconic, legendary, a leader and difference maker that his work good, great work, instrumental work continues to give benefits and rights. Those that, that are enjoyed, you know, this very, this very minute. Have you ever G it, it in the last couple years, maybe in particular, as we’ve had more conversations, especially globally, remotely, unfortunately we’re gonna, we’re gonna be changing that, but you ever stopped and broken bred or had a conversation with someone that appreciates their education so much so that it, it almost, you look inward and, and it’s like, man, I’ve been taking this for granted. You ever have those conversations with those types of folks.

Jenny Froome (31:37):

So often, so often. And I mean, there there’s one, one of our favorite sort of, you know, guests is, is Rami, who is constantly, and I think she’s doing her PhD or in, in Liverpool at the moment. And she’s doing so much research, but not only is she, she so values education, but she’s passed that on to her children. And, you know, there, there are just so many, I remember going to, to Beneen and, and seeing so many people who work full jobs full day jobs. And then it’s not just in Ben Bonine. It’s not just in Africa, it’s all over the world, right. That’s right. But, but working full day jobs and then still doing degrees and people having multiple degrees. And for someone like me, that’s kind of, I, I, I, I just wouldn’t be able to do that. So I’ve had to find different ways to educate myself. And that’s by mixing with people who are passionate about being educated, cuz I kind of learn bio osmosis, I think

Scott Luton (32:34):

Absolutely I’m with you. And by the way, Amanda or Catherine, if we could drop Vermont to Abdul KRE her LinkedIn profile in the comments, so folks can connect with that. Cause she is the gift that Gibson keeps on giving. I mean from research education, leadership, Vermont gets my favorites. That’s right. I, I enjoy her hearing her stories of being a mother as well. I think she’s got three daughters, three

Jenny Froome (32:56):

Girls.

Scott Luton (32:56):

Yeah. And we’ve really enjoyed some of those that perspective. Okay. So Jenny, up next, as we move along again, thanks for sharing your, your point of view and, and context around Nelson Mandela and certainly Mandela day. We need to circle the calendar that July 18th 23 let’s plan on showcasing some of those folks that are making a difference. Mm-hmm <affirmative> so let let’s, we’ll get that added to the calendar directly. Excellent. Okay. So back to more directly business history, here’s business history live with my dear friend and, and star rock and roll star. Jenny F I wanna share a couple birthdays and there was a ton of July birthdays, by the way, Jenny, of course Nelson Mandela was born July 18th. And is it, is it Movio Movio South Africa? Did I say that right?

Jenny Froome (33:47):

That was good.

Scott Luton (33:48):

Okay. <laugh> so, so of course it’s birthday Mandela day say Lauder, the founder of the worldwide beauty and brands and cosmetics company was born July 1st, 1908 in Queens, New York, Howard Schultz, Jenny Howard Schultz, founder of Starbucks. Who did he step back in as CEO did I did I see something like that? Really? What I, I think so, you know, Starbucks has changed so much, right? Pandemics really shaped their business. And so much of their business has shifted over to, you know, just drive through, pick it up and go, you know, and of course Starbucks, I believe if I’m familiar with their history, it was formed and their, and their cafes were formed. So folks could sit down and connect and work together and you know, all those customer priorities and preferences have shifted so much, but Howard Schultz does a lot of great work from a give back. Good forward standpoint was born in Brooklyn, New York on July 19th, 1953. And finally, Jenny, one of my favorites, fascinating figures in history, Amelia Earhart, yeah. Was born July 24th, 1897 in, at Atchison, Kansas old Greg White’s home state. Jenna, do you find, I, I find her story so intriguing and not just the, you know, what folks are familiar with, you know, kind of on the last chapters of her story, but just how she challenged the status quo throughout the aviation industry during her time. Right?

Jenny Froome (35:14):

Mm-hmm <affirmative> there, there are amazing female role models in, in that, you know, barrel Markham from a Ken perspective was another who just kept on pushing and pushing because they knew that they could do it. And I think it’s that self-belief and it’s that courage that, you know, women like me need to look back and be grateful to, to the, that they made in, in doing different stuff that, that people thought women could never do. And like you say, it’s sort of her, her life and her upbringing to the point that everybody knows about right. Is, is kind of like the, the more exciting of the story.

Scott Luton (35:53):

I completely agree. Fascinating figure the pride of Atchison, Kansas. Some folks may not know that she was born and some of her formative parts of her journey were there in Kansas. Okay. We’re coming down the home stretch. Jenny, we have, we have covered quite the gamut today on this week in business history, live one last story. That number five topic number five I wanna share about is one of the world’s major players in the semiconductor industry. And, and Jenny think about some of the things we’ve heard nonstop for two years. I’m not gonna even mention toilet paper. I did it again. Toilet paper, of course, all aspects of supply chain, but certainly computer chips, right? Jenny. Yeah,

Jenny Froome (36:33):

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Scott Luton (36:33):

Yeah. In this day and age it goes without saying, but you know, you can find computer chips in everything, right. And more and more, you know, automotive and, and other big industries lean heavily on computer chips. And it is been, it’s put quite the, the strain on that industry. But one of the world’s major players in the semiconductor industry, Intel corporation was founded July 18th, 1968 in mountain view, California, if I’m not mistaken, I think LinkedIn is based in mountain view, California Intel was founded. Get this talk about a, a quite the dynamic duo here at Gordon Moore was a chemist. Jenny. He, he coined Moore’s law. Have you ever heard of that?

Jenny Froome (37:15):

Nope.

Scott Luton (37:15):

Okay. As you know, I’ve got certainly lots of technological limitations and I’m not, no one confuses me for a chemist, but as I understand, Moore’s law, it’s like processing speeds will double, I think every 18 months it was, his was a legendary rule of thumb that really has turned out to be pretty accurate. And, and so he coined that Gordon Moore and his partner, Robert NOIs a physicist and he is just, just a co inventor of the integrated circuit. So quite a duo. So get this Jenny, when it came to picking a name for the company more and noise thought briefly about more noise, but didn’t like them the implication. So they ended up going with Intel from the full phrase, integrated electronics. So they put the first three letter to the first word. And the last two of the, the second word that’s where Intel came from Jenny revenue in the first year in 1968 was about 2,672 us dollars.

Jenny Froome (38:17):

Amazing, amazing.

Scott Luton (38:20):

So a few years later, though, in 1974, Intel would hit the jackpot with its first really big product, the Intel 80 80 microprocessor, which was the world’s first eight bit computer. So Hey, don’t ask me what all of that means, but it was a big deal. So big that it caught the attention of a little company called IBM, AK big blue. And the two companies made an agreement that all the future IBM computers, at least the next few years moving forward from that moment in 1974 would use these Intel 80, 80 chips. So needless to say, of course, that was a big deal, instrumental to Intel’s growth revenue in 2021. Some let’s see, quick math here about 50 let’s see, 50, 53 years later, Intel, amazing Intel revenue, how

Jenny Froome (39:13):

Big they were.

Scott Luton (39:14):

Oh man. 70 billion was a revenue in 2021. I can only imagine with the

Jenny Froome (39:22):

Publish with the chimps back then.

Scott Luton (39:23):

Well, that’s a great question and I don’t know back. So I’ve got an image here, Jenny. I don’t have an old image back then. Cause I bet they were bigger. But get this look at this image. This is from, let’s see, October, 2020, this is a close up of an Intel cellar on and it’s got a serial number there. It’s a processor. And it’s also look at the backdrop here. The backdrop is grains of sand. Look at the, the intricacy and the complexity and imagine the machinery and the production line behind it. That’s gotta be that accurate and that attention to detail, just the complexity of the chip industry. It amazing. Huh?

Jenny Froome (40:03):

Absolutely incredible mind name.

Scott Luton (40:05):

It is. It is mind blowing. And especially when you think about the products mm-hmm <affirmative> or you know,

Jenny Froome (40:11):

This, the rule, our lines that, that, that manager are absolutely

Scott Luton (40:15):

Right this and I’m holding up my iPhone here and I don’t remember the exact numbers, but the iPhones got more technology and more capabilities in it than the Apollo moon mission. Right. It’s just amazing that Moore’s law and just how technology, how fast it’s, it’s moving, innovating, getting smaller, but more powerful. It’s amazing. So Intel to Intel, as Sylvia says happy birthday to all of those of those business leaders, but to also Intel corporation that clearly is powering some aspects of our life every single hour. Okay.

Jenny Froome (40:49):

So, so just going back to your, your, your microchip yes. Thing. Yes. Okay. I, this is, this is one of your, this is one of your kids and for the eye roll, are you ready? <laugh> ready? What do you call the crumbs at the bottom of a bag of Doritos?

Scott Luton (41:06):

Mm, micro chips, micro

Jenny Froome (41:10):

Chips. <laugh>

Scott Luton (41:12):

Oh gosh, Jenny. I’m gonna use that. I can’t wait to use it with my dear Brantley in a moment to get one of her legendary eye rolls. They have come to light. Hockeys Amanda. I think the talkies, which is, are similar, similar to a corn chip. Maybe I’ll make sure I get this right, but talkies. So I’m gonna ask her what the crumbles are in the bottom of her bag of talkies. So stay tuned. All right. So Jenny, to all of our listeners, let’s make sure folks know how to connect with you. If they wanna learn more about you name it, all the cool things. STIX is up to all the, you know, all the give back initiatives. You’re part of know how important it is to you on a very meaningful way. The Africa supply chain excellence awards, congrats on that first year success. But how can folks plug into the one only Jenny room?

Jenny Froome (41:57):

Thank you. I’m I’m on LinkedIn. So it’s very easy. It’s Jenny and it’s room fr O M E room with an F at the beginning and then E at the end,

Scott Luton (42:07):

It’s just,

Jenny Froome (42:07):

You’ll find me

Scott Luton (42:09):

Just that easy. And we’re gonna drop, we’re gonna make sure your LinkedIn profile is part of the show notes. And I would encourage if you’re not already connect with Jenny FVA, especially on LinkedIn and, uh, see how you can plug into all the cool things she’s doing globally, but especially across Africa. Thank you. Okay, Jenny really appreciate your time here today. Go out and celebrate the, the success of the, the awards program. Congrats. I really enjoyed your perspective, not just on Nelson, Nelson, Mandela and Mandela day, but throughout our conversation today that really ran the gamut to all of our listeners. Hey, thanks for tuning in Sylvia. I really appreciate you tuning in and, and sharing a couple things there. Big thanks to Amanda and Catherine behind the scenes help making today happen, but folks, whatever you do, hopefully you enjoyed this business history live. Join us again, live in a couple weeks. We’d love to hear from you, but whatever you do, Hey, take your page outta Jenny F’s book. Do good, give forward and be the change that’s needed. And Hey, we’ll see you next time. Right back here on this week in business history, live.