The Supply Chain Buzz is Supply Chain Now’s regular Monday livestream, held at 12n ET each week. This show focuses on some of the leading stories from global supply chain and global business, always with special guests – the most important of which is the live audience!

Every episode of Supply Chain Now ends with Scott Luton’s customary sign off… do good, give forward, be the change. The guests on this episode of The Buzz are living that call every day, as individual and as part of value-based organizations. Maureen Woolshlager is the Director of Business Development at Vector Logistics and Kim Winter is Group Managing Director at Logistics Executive Group.

In this session, created in collaboration with a live digital audience, Maureen and Kim join Scott Luton and Greg White to discuss:
• The latest on their respective efforts to pitch in and make a difference in places around the world where there is a need that the supply chain can address
• The level of risk created by supply chains that have insufficient supplier diversification
• How the ‘great resignation’ is affecting the need for talent – in the supply chain and elsewhere
• Whether we have truly learned the lessons of the pandemic, or are starting to slip back into our old ways

Intro/Outro (00:03):

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Scott Luton (00:30):

Hey, good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Um, based on wherever you are across the world, Scott Lu and Greg white with you here on supply chain now welcome to today’s livestream Gregory. How are we doing?

Greg White (00:41):

I’m doing well. And we’re gonna actually have someone on the show who is spending their evening with us. How about that?

Scott Luton (00:47):

You’re right. Anne birthday Eve. Yes, birthday Eve with us. So on today’s show, it’s a supply chain buzz where we share some of the leading stories across global business, as well as some of the biggest movers and shakers out there making it happen today. We’ve got two special guests joining us momentarily as Greg has foreshadowed wool, uh, wool Schauer and <laugh> and Kim winner. Uh, two of our favorites. We’re gonna be discussing a variety of topics initiatives here today. So booklet can get ready, cause we want to hear from you as well. All right, Greg, before we dive in, uh, we’ve got some announcements. We’ve got, we’re gonna say look to a few folks and then we’re gonna have our guests, uh, join us. Um, uh, here, just in a few minutes, give me one, highlight one highlight from your weekend.

Greg White (01:32):

Uh, wow. Well, we did a, uh, my wife and I did a lot of driving around in the convertible <laugh> this weekend. So whether it was perfect for it, I mean, perfect sun was out temperature, not too hot, you know, it was just, it was great. That was my highlights spending the afternoon, driving around with her.

Scott Luton (01:51):

Whereas the pictures, pictures that didn’t happen, man. We gotta,

Greg White (01:54):

I know. You’re right. Well, she’s got pictures. She does have pictures. I’ll have, I’ll have her post one. <laugh>

Scott Luton (01:59):

Okay. Wonderful. All right. Well, here in Luton household, we got our, uh, jumpstart. Finally, not necessarily jumpstart, but we got the garden is in full swing and our three kids we’ve been putting ’em to work. We, I bet we hauled. I bet we did about 30 or maybe 40, uh, 20 pound bags. I think it is of mulch as we look to rework the backyard and landscape, which I know you high value and covet pictures are coming. Pictures are coming.

Greg White (02:28):

Are they good? <laugh>

Scott Luton (02:29):

Good. All right.

Greg White (02:31):

A yard with well defined like planting beds looks fantastic. So, uh, somebody posted on LinkedIn over the weekend, their work on their yard. And I thought that looks out. I was thinking, what the heck does that have to do with work? But <laugh>, I mean, it, it was, it was uplifting. Yeah.

Scott Luton (02:51):

Well outstanding. Well, you know, green thumbs are also in short supply these days. Uh, the shelves are empty when it comes

Greg White (02:57):

To like all thumbs.

Scott Luton (02:58):

Yes, no kidding. But, uh, regardless, uh, let’s see here, let’s share a couple of quick announcements. We have a wonderful conversation heat up here today with two of our favorites. Uh, Maureen and Kim were joining us momentarily. Um, you know, we’ve also partnered with Maureen and Kim and their respective organizations on the 2022 supply chain of procurement awards is coming up right around the corner. May 18th. You can learn more at supply chain, criminal awards.com or find the link, uh, that will drop probably the comments for the LinkedIn version of the live stream. Uh, as we announce all the winners, Greg, it’s gonna, it’s gonna, it is gonna be fun to finally make the reveal, right?

Greg White (03:34):

Yeah, it is. And it’s gonna be thousands and thousands of your close, the supply chain colleagues, apparently because the count of registrants continues up. I hope there’s not a cap on the number of registrants we can have for this Scott it right,

Scott Luton (03:50):

Seriously. I hope we don’t break the internet, but Hey, you know, regardless, it’s the good news. There is we’re celebrating global success and we’re, uh, celebrating, lifting up, supporting, making more aware, uh, the nonprofit hope for justices noble mission they’re on as they seek to eradicate modern slavery and human trafficking. So join us for that May 18th links in the comments, uh, Greg, as we, uh, pivot to pay the bills a little bit, May 10th, 12 noon, uh, we’re partnering with six river systems on a live webinar, how to solve three common peak season challenges. Greg, if you had to name one, we’ll be speaking about what do you think,

Greg White (04:28):

Uh, lead time is the number one peak season challenge. I mean, it has to be right. It has been for the last two years, actually. It always has been, but so much so since this seismic societal dis disruption created by the pandemic and, and now with Shanghai, for as much as we talk about reshoring most everyone is still using, uh, China predominantly. And if certainly the far east is so for sourcing. So as we talk about what’s going on in China, uh, man, I’m not sure you can be far enough ahead of the curve, right?

Scott Luton (05:05):

Excellent point, excellent point. Y’all join us May 10th at 12 noon Eastern time free to join the links in the comments. Also, uh, newly scheduled live webinar on May 24th. Now this is cool. Uh, this is an opportunity, uh, to kind of, uh, benchmark how your organizing and operation is doing your warehouse is doing. We’re gonna be talking about the 10, the top 10 competencies that make up best in class warehouses. Now, Greg, this is gonna be chalk full. This probably should be like a, I don’t know, 12 hour webinar, but we’re gonna knock it out an hour on we.

Greg White (05:37):

Wow. That’s uh, Scott that’s six minutes per thing. Plus you gotta take off two or three minutes on the beginning and end. So it’s five minutes per thing. So listen up and listen quick. Yes.

Scott Luton (05:51):

Well that’s, that is, that is as usual fashion. That is awesome. And on the money instant analysis from 1, 1, 1, the one holy Greg white, however, our, our approach will be is there, there’s gonna be some, some common competencies, right? That we’re gonna hit on quick. And then we’re gonna get to the nitty gritty that really separates best in class from folks that just make it happen. So y’all check that out. May 24th with of course, a, our dear friends from ship ho ship Hawk and a few new ones, uh, May 24th at 12 noon. And let’s see here. Uh, we’re gonna share one other event when, when our, uh, guest joins us as we talk, leveraging logistics, uh, for Ukraine here in just a minute, as we, uh, bring on Marine and Kim before do Greg let’s say hello to, to just a few folks. Uh, Benson Vincent is tuned in via LinkedIn says, uh, says, it’s good to join you guys. I hope to learn more from your presentation Benson, you’re in the right place. If you love supply chain, you love giving forward, doing good and making it happen. And you love meetings. Some of the folks that are doing all those things, you’re in the right place, but, but let us know where you’re tuned in from, uh, Vincent. We love to connect the dots across globe, right?

Greg White (07:03):

Yeah. Dig that name too. I mean, uh, say that three times fast. <laugh> right, right.

Scott Luton (07:08):

That is.

Greg White (07:09):

I bet it, I bet he like a lot of people gets a, can you say that again? <laugh>

Scott Luton (07:14):

That’s right. We’ve got a port name. We got a port name me, uh, talking about

Greg White (07:20):

Minute that I asking the question on that one. Right.

Scott Luton (07:23):

Fad. Great to see you once again, via LinkedIn, let us know where you’re, you’re dialed in from and look forward to your perspective here today. T square lead time and safety stock. I think he’s speaking to, uh, peak season challenges, Greg.

Greg White (07:36):

Yeah. Safety stock, and new concept for manufacturers and brands apparently

Scott Luton (07:41):

Seems like it. Uh, Greg, Greg. Great. Uh, Greg, great to have Greg back. Try to say that’s 10 times fast. There’s

Greg White (07:51):

<laugh> all, there are always words to trip you up.

Scott Luton (07:53):

Well, I think there’s three times as many that trip me up than anyone else here. Uh, Greg, but I know Greg Greg to have you tune in once again from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, we’ve enjoyed your perspective on previous live streams and great to have you back here today. Uh, Mike der greetings from Birmingham, Alabama via LinkedIn, Mike. Great to have you, uh, and Benson asking you shall receive he’s joining

Greg White (08:16):

From oh man. Eden. Beautiful.

Scott Luton (08:19):

Edenberg Edenborough Edburg Edinborough. Edinborough. See? Yeah. Time and time again to

Greg White (08:24):

Be a Scott LA <laugh>.

Scott Luton (08:27):

Well, bits. Great to have you here today. Um, okay, so Gregory. Are we ready to introduce two of our dear friends, two of the movers and shakers out there making it happen? Two of our friends,

Greg White (08:38):

See what’s going on around the world. Yeah.

Scott Luton (08:41):

Well, hang on late breaking announcement. Aon is tuned in, right. <laugh> Greg. Uh, kaon you’re getting a demerit from Greg. Did you see that? No. All kidding aside. Great to have you as always Kavon. Okay. Let’s welcome in make a formal, uh, introduction here. We, we wanna welcome in Maureen wooer director of business development, strategic accounts with our dear friends at vector global logistics and Kim winner group managing director for the logistics executive group. Hey Maureen. Hey Kim, how are we doing today?

Maureen Woolshlager (09:21):

Hey guys, how are you doing?

Scott Luton (09:23):

We are doing wonderful, Maureen. Yeah. Welcome. How are you doing?

Maureen Woolshlager (09:27):

You’re on mute Kim <laugh> Kim’s birthday. Everybody be with

Kim Winter (09:32):

Him,

Scott Luton (09:34):

Right,

Greg White (09:34):

Right. Some slack. And it’s almost

Kim Winter (09:38):

<laugh> who was just joining us before, wherever you are in the world. Looks like you may be here with me in the middle east, which is the first day of breaking the feast of the Ramada. Right? So we, I holiday here for a week off, everybody, all the folks here in, in the world of Islam right around the world.

Scott Luton (10:02):

Well, I really appreciate you bringing that to our attention. So I, I, um, I Mumbar to you and your family, uh, Kim winter, and to fall, all the folks are celebrating this special day, this special time of year. So thanks so much for bringing that to our attention. And we should say, um, happy pre birthday to our dear friend, Kim winter. So thanks for joining us on this special day. Times two, it seems like just

Greg White (10:25):

Moments away now. <laugh> right from your birthday.

Scott Luton (10:29):

In fact, uh, I bet in Dubai, they celebrate a ball drop for Kim winters, uh, birthday, you know, kinda like the peace drop in and uh, something little, little vent in New York city. Kim, is that right? We drop

Greg White (10:41):

A Kiwi is what they drop.

Kim Winter (10:43):

We have the tallest building in the world here.

Greg White (10:46):

That’d be a long drop

Scott Luton (10:47):

<laugh>. All right. So, so now that we’ve shared a lib about Kim, uh, Maureen, uh, we love our repeat guests. Of course, you’re one of our faves appeared on some of our earliest episodes. So what have you and your family been up to in, in the Raleigh area? As we, as we’re really been enjoying a beautiful spring, the Southeastern us,

Maureen Woolshlager (11:09):

It has been beautiful out. We’ve been trying to spend as much time as we can outside. To be honest, my kids are finishing up some spring sports. So my husband and I are getting that fit fatigue of taking everybody in different directions every night and just have, wanna have a couple nights where we don’t have to kind of zoom out right around five 30. Um, but yeah, we’ve been spend a lot of time outside and my kids are actually picking up a couple new sports. So we’ve just been practicing with them. My daughter’s picking up golf. And so, Um, encourage that we live, we rent a house on a golf course, so it’s pretty, it’s pretty late in the game for us to try this cuz we’ve lived here for a couple of years. Um, but, but she really likes it. We’re just trying to make sure nobody breaks any windows right now. Cause my son, uh, kicked a soccer ball right here in the window right next to where my desk is. So <laugh> um,

Scott Luton (11:58):

Man, maybe he’s gonna go on and play for, uh, uh, Tatham uh, great. Well, you

Kim Winter (12:03):

Know, he

Maureen Woolshlager (12:04):

Actually plays hockey and so it’s better than a hockey ball. Um, yeah, but um, yeah, we’re trying to keep, we’re trying to, you know, all the kicking and punting, like in the direction, away from the house, but um, but yeah, we’re trying to spend a lot of time outside, so awesome. Yeah. Enjoy the nice weather.

Scott Luton (12:21):

Awesome. It has been gorgeous. Well, Greg, I’m coming to you for an update on the index in just a second, but really quick. All right. Uh, Sylvia, Judy is with us and she, I think all of us are big. I’m glad

Greg White (12:31):

Sylvia here for it.

Scott Luton (12:32):

No kidding. Stopping in for just a minute. She says hello, Maureen. And then, uh, Quincy tuned in from Zimbabwe in Africa. Great to have you here with us Quincy via LinkedIn. Okay. So Greg speaking of the Hilton head logistics and transportation, uh, global supply chain, uh, do doers, movers and shakers index, whatever else wanna add to that? What is the latest?

Greg White (12:56):

Yes. So, uh, so, uh, off of Hilton head waiting for, to enter the port of Savannah, our seven ships today, one oil tanker and sixth graders, but the big news today seriously is outside of Charleston, which if folks have been following the index, even informally has been up around 28 to 32 ships at various times, also only seven ships waiting outside the port of Charleston. So ma uh, everyone is making headway except Shanghai, right? Kim, uh,

Kim Winter (13:30):

Right Greg.

Greg White (13:34):

So

Kim Winter (13:35):

There it’s a compact.

Greg White (13:36):

Yeah, it is. That’s right. Um, somebody, somebody sent, uh, uh, posted something with all of the ships that are waiting and approaching Shanghai and departing Shanghai, which are very few these days. And it is, uh, it does, it looks like, uh, I don’t know what it looks like. A bunch of green dots is what it looks like.

Scott Luton (13:58):

Well, uh, challenges abound, undoubtedly. Uh, and I wanna, but, but you know, the cool thing and beyond cool, the real uplifting and ins inspiring thing is that global supply chain is uniquely suited to do something about some of the greatest challenges that, that we as a global industry and global business and global community are all, uh, working through now. And I wanna start with, uh, a pro a project initiative, a movement that all four of us are very familiar with. And Maureen, we’re very grateful, uh, for you and vector global logistics and your partnership, but more importantly, your action, uh, do something about, um, all the, the immense need in Ukraine and beyond. So I wanna start with, um, leveraging logistics for Ukraine. Uh, this, this initiative, this that’s probably a couple months old. Um, uh, but you know, it’s not just a movement. There’s been so much action. We’re talking containers already moved, uh, addressing vetted needs with folks who have the right resources. We’ve had supply chain pros step in and find a way to get it moved so, so much going on, but, but to level set, initially, Marine, what’s going on, what is it? And, uh, what’s some market Intel that folks really need to know about.

Maureen Woolshlager (15:13):

Yeah, thanks, Scott. Um, a lot of you have been on the call, you know, a lot of people chime it in today. I know Kim has been on a bunch of times and you guys were, um, vectors just hosting a weekly call, um, and getting people from all over the world to participate. So we’re getting rep, um, agents from all over the world, especially like in Europe and, and Eastern Europe. And we’re getting, um, shippers in the us. So a product to donate, we’re getting, um, representatives from like the embasies and other kind of nonprofit, humanitarian aid organizations. And while vector, we are a forwarder. Um, we’re small. So we’re trying to, to sponsor like on her own dime a couple containers a month. We, the, the purpose of getting everybody together is really just to do some matchmaking. So we have, for example, like matter and performance health, two very wonderful organizations, one does more non-profit work one, you know, the icy, hot pet and things you guys buy at Walmart.

Maureen Woolshlager (16:14):

They’re one of our customers and they have like hundreds of pallets of stuff to donate. Mm. But they don’t know who to get it, how to get it there. I mean, they can call us, but then as everybody on the call probably knows, you just don’t put a container on the water and ship it without anybody receiving it. And how’s it gonna be distributed and things like that. So what we’re trying to is kind of make connections where like trying to be matchmaker of you have product to donate, you have a need, whether you’re an NGO or a nonprofit or a government organization, we can help with the logistics of it. We’re able to sub we’re partnered with Heeg void. Who’s offered to give us containers at cost going from, uh, the us to Europe for this initiative, which is great. Um, we’ve been able to work with Swan and a couple other, um, tricking companies to offer Dray edge at their cost specifically for these loads going to, um, Europe and Eastern Europe and, you know, for goods intended for the humanitarian effort.

Maureen Woolshlager (17:14):

Um, and so basically the point of the call is we’ve had people from all different walks of life, join us. Um, and, and the, we just are really trying to make connections and help facilitate that. So we don’t, there’s no real Ben there’s no, like let’s say, um, selfish benefit for us for vector there it’s that you have something you wanna donate, you have something you need, we can help arrange logistics, or we can help put you in the direction of somebody who, who you want to do it, it doesn’t have to be asked, but really just working towards that. Um, because I think everybody wants to try and help in their own way, but, um, everybody’s ways of contributing are different. And so we’re just trying to help with that. So, yeah. So yeah, go

Scott Luton (17:57):

Ahead. So I’m, if I can, so Kim, I know you’ve been supporting, uh, the initiative and some other organizations, we’re gonna give those a shout out in just a second, but for our audience to, to make it as simple in, in this really vastly complex situation, a heartbreaking situation to make it as simple and echo, what Marine sharing, um, join, uh, a focused session. A weekly session used to be Wednesday at 3:00 PM. We’ve moved that standing weekly session to Tuesdays at 11:00 AM Eastern time to make it more of a go global, make it more convenient for folks across the globe, uh, and join the conversation. Join in to just soak up, uh, the conversation you’ll hear people from, uh, from there in Ukraine, in Poland, you hear folks that Marine is, is describing folks are doing something about it, but whatever it is, join us and to register, you can use the link in the comments, uh, Maureen really quick, some of the needs you you’ve already spoken to. And, and, and y’all already been moving, uh, several, um, uh, containers, uh, across ocean to address these needs. What are some common items, or maybe what are the, the most requested items you’re seeing,

Maureen Woolshlager (19:08):

Um, where most requested items really and medical supplies. Um, also there’s been a bunch of requests for like protective gear, like helmets or armor. Um, and we put some organizations in touch with some suppliers of that sort of material, but, um, if anybody else has some connections, it might know of that, or at least, um, kind of at a more like discounted rate, that’d be great. Um, some dried or shelf stable food where is also a need, the medical supplies is consistently something that comes up. If you think, think I last read 5 million people have been displaced and, you know, there’s clinics that are being set up everywhere. There there’s there’s needs for all sorts of medical supplies, not just, you know, X frame machines or sonogram machines, you know, basic supplies. Um, and then I wrote down that, and then the, the other things that, that we’re looking for is if you have a donation of a product we’re working with a company, for example, that had, um, water filters that they just started making.

Maureen Woolshlager (20:09):

And they’re really small. You don’t have, if you have product that you wanna donate, and it’s not like an entire container’s worth reach out because we are consolidating material in Atlanta. Um, with our, um, one of our warehouse partners that books for Africa is offered their warehouse space for free. They’re gonna throw in a bunch of children’s books when we get a full container and we’re gonna cover that. Um, so it doesn’t have, have to be 20 pallets or more if you just have one pallet, um, a product that you think, um, would work. Let, let me know. Um, you can reach out to us at Ukraine, vector gl.com, as you can see my name’s super long. So I won’t make you guess what my email address is. Um, but, but those are the main things. And then look, if you don’t have goods, um, um, and you don’t know a, I need, but you wanna help in another way. We’re always looking for people to help sponsor some of these shipments because they are going to organizations that don’t necessarily have endless funds. And while the product is donated, there still are shipping costs and other things, um, at origin and destination that we could always use some assistance with. So again, any help is, is appreciated. So reach out if you have questions and, you know, we’ll just love to have you on the call. Um, you don’t even have to come on video and we won’t call you out. So <laugh>

Scott Luton (21:26):

You,

Maureen Woolshlager (21:28):

But, but, um, sometimes we, we max the call at one hour for the sake of everyone’s time. And I think last week it was like 45 minutes, but sometimes we’re trying to close up shop right at, you know, 59 minutes just to make sure those that attend know this isn’t gonna be, it’s not like a working group session all, all day. So wonderful. I’d love to see. Hi there.

Scott Luton (21:48):

Come, come join the, the, the community behind the effort for sure. Really quick. Yeah. Uh, Magdi welcome in from, uh, India via LinkedIn. Hey, the one and only Jean pleasure from Northern Alabama’s tuned in via LinkedIn, uh, Byron from Texas. Welcome back, Byron. Great to have you here today via LinkedIn, the one and only Greg Lamont, Hardy from San Diego, uh, CA and our dear friend, Chris Porter, part of this movement. Uh, she’s also adding the link that, um, uh, folks can find the comments that get behind it, uh, and join us. I wanna get Greg’s take, and Kim’s take on, on, on what Maureen has just shared. Kim. I know you’re really familiar with, what’s been going on, uh, tell us a little more about your connections there.

Kim Winter (22:31):

Sure, sure. So thanks, Scott. And, uh, yeah, great kudo to, uh, to Maureen and, uh, Enrique and, and the team over at Victor for stepping up and, uh, and stepping out. And actually, as you say, Scott, getting something done, uh, they, uh, they hold a great, uh, co of, of people ’em around the logistics world and throughout the us Asia, uh, especially Europe and inside Ukraine and these events. So I encourage everybody to join. We do, uh, and everybody’s looking to link up to make something happen along the extended supply chain somewhere. Um, in my case, I was in Europe recently and was just randomly for, to, to run into, uh, some folks from, uh, hu humanitarian resource international foundation, H R I F run by a legend of in Amsterdam. And he’s been doing stuff in Ukraine since 1993, but he’s running B2B for truckloads, full container loads out of Amsterdam, almost daily into Poland.

Kim Winter (23:35):

They got their own logistic get up and into Ukraine. So max Vistra and anybody wants to know any about this stuff. Um, they can, they can join into vector. And this event I’m always on there prepared to give details from that. Uh, also, uh, it is, uh, is a really important outfit. An island called aid from Ireland. I called Tommy burn that I ran into on LinkedIn hooked up with the while in the UK recently. And they’re running, uh, Les and containers are less, less than one truckload into convoys. The last one was 20, um, all free charge, non for profit, no, no fees being charged all the way into their, uh, containerizations in and distribution in Ukraine. And all these people are just doing it cause they’re logistics community. They can help and they’re helping.

Scott Luton (24:30):

Yep. Well, it’s a beautiful thing really in light of the, the, uh, humanitarian and, and beyond disaster from the Russian aggression. It’s a beautiful thing to see these efforts come together, Greg white. I know that, uh, we’re passionate and I know you’re, you’re certainly passionate about, uh, given forward and taking action. Your thoughts.

Greg White (24:48):

Yeah. I’m so as, as Maureen and Kimmer are talking, I’m thinking if there aren’t some other things we can slip into some of those containers to help alleviate the situation, but, uh, for now let’s focus on <laugh> saving those who are displaced or, or having difficulties, but, um, you, yeah, I, I, I mean, I think this is a really important initiative and it’s not terribly expensive thanks to vector and Hoppo Lloyd, um, you and some close friends could put some bucks together and sponsor a container. Um, so it’s not overwhelming a few hundred bucks for a few P you know, could, could really change, change things for folks over there. So don’t feel like, you know, we’ve been talking about 20 and $15,000 containers. Those include profit and brokerage fees and all kinds of things. You can sponsor a container for much, much less than that. Thanks, thanks again. And to the folks at, at vector and Hoppo Lloyd. So, um, you know, if you can scrounge together a few thousand bucks with some friends, you can really, really make a difference.

Maureen Woolshlager (25:58):

And honestly, Greg, I think it’s even a little bit less than that, you know, because of the rates from Hapag Lloyd it’s, it’s, it’s really decent. And to give you guys a little bit of an example, I think the product from performance health is about 105 pallets that they’re donating and we’re working, getting those on the water this week, or next week, the, the commercial value of the, all these pallet is about $450,000 just, and again, they’re donating it. Um, so the, that impact they’re having kind of, when it gets to Poland and Ukraine is, I mean, it’s way more than you could ever quantify, but their generous, generous donation is gonna help a lot of people. And we’re just really thankful that partners like that, that are like, we have this, you just need to help us get it and tell us who to send it to. And, and, um, you know, I wanted to definitely give them a shout out, cause that’s, that’s not, um, that’s not a small donation and not every donation has to be like that. But as an example, there’s some really big hearts and, and we’re happy to have them as, as partners.

Scott Luton (27:00):

Excellent point, uh, folks join in in the week list session again, Tuesdays 11, 11:00 AM, Eastern time. You can find the links and the comments and, uh, you won’t regret it. Uh, you won’t regret it. You can find a way, I promise you to add to the effort, uh, and always big and small, Hey, while we’re talking about, um, you know, doing good and giving forward and really being the change winner, you Maureen and Enrique and Chris Christie, and you, y’all all embody this. And I want, uh, give you an opportunity to talk about Oasis Africa. Uh, tell us about the good work this, this organization’s doing.

Kim Winter (27:37):

Hey, Hey, thanks, Scott. Look, uh, just a quick grab on this, uh, 2005, we were and happened to be doing some work, uh, in Kenya, uh, ran into a bunch of kids who didn’t have any schooling. They’re all orphans. And we just happened to start a school for them. That was 17 years ago. Uh, what have we got now? 8,000 kids through the program that we set up in Australia, tax deductibility. Uh, we’re registering here in the middle east as well. Um, so we’re in and outta there a lot. We’ve got some big corporate sponsors, uh, well, never enough, but, uh, you know, we’ve got thousands of people who have been involved with us over the years, uh, and the all supply chain logistics, community people, uh, we’ve got kids now graduate waiting, uh, from 15, 16 years of the program who are now graduating with master’s degrees in psychology and the like, and support services back into the Cabera slum, which is the fifth largest slum in the world, eight a million people in four square miles and helping the other kids out. And this is their initiatives, our support, but they’re going in there to do it. So, uh, yeah. Look, Oasis africa.org AU, Oasis, africa.org AU. We’d love to have anybody wanna come along and talk to us and help us support what we’re doing. And, um, yeah, it’s a great, great outcome. We’re getting freedom from education, freedom from poverty through education, freedom from poverty,

Scott Luton (29:07):

Big impact over 8,000 kits. Uh, so y’all check that out. We’ve got the link in the comments, uh, but as Kim mentioned, Oasis, africa.org AU, uh, Greg, I’m gonna get your take on, on, uh, both of these, um, noble missions, but before we do, I’ve got a special little looking back now, little pre birthday gift for the one only Kim winner. So Kim, I got a image here from what I believe was a kickoff of this organization back in 2006. Let’s see if I can bring that up. Look at 27 year old Kim winter right here, man. Kicking off. Did you keeping on

Kim Winter (29:48):

Google <laugh>

Scott Luton (29:49):

On Google. Did you ever think on this evening that some 16 years later your, your work would’ve benefited over 8,000 kids in such a meaningful, uh,

Kim Winter (30:01):

Well, in terms of the team and the team I know that have helped us out and those three people there, um, then no doubt I could have imagined it actually, because I know the people around us are so powerful and they’re so hardworking that, you know, I guess it’s just one of those Providence, but, uh, you know, it’s the next doubt they out, I thousand now we’re up

Scott Luton (30:22):

To, it is remarkable. And again, yeah, Greg, Greg white, uh, you know, we we’ve worked long enough, uh, to know that me and you both love lifting up people that actually are investing their resources, their time, their money, their elbow grease into helping others across the globe. And these two get us here, do just that. Right.

Greg White (30:44):

It’s fascinating to, you know, how you find so many people who are so giving, uh, all around the world. Right? Of course we have worked with Enrique for a while. Um, both professionally and, and in these kind of in initiatives and Maureen has taken the fore on this.

Maureen Woolshlager (31:01):

He leads by example. I mean, you gotta take that. He, he sets the stage to the precedent for the company, and I think it, when you have leadership like that, it, it definitely, there’s a trickle down effect, you know?

Greg White (31:11):

Yeah. And likewise, Kim, you with your company, um, doing, doing the same thing, really trying to impact and change lives, uh, it’s inspired. I mean it, and it’s encouraging, um, you know, to, to see people who can make such a huge difference. And, and what I love about it is they almost always start from almost nothing, just having seen a need and trying to solve that need, and then discovering the greater depth of that need and can continuing to expand that initiative. It, it is, it is really a Testament to the fact that you can just start from whatever’s in your heart and the smallest thing you do, and it, it will build momentum, right. And if you have the right, um, you know, if you have the right, um, willpower, you can other people into it, uh, you know, you can get the, the sponsors that, that Kim, you and Maureen have all gotten into yours as well. So

Scott Luton (32:12):

Well said, well,

Kim Winter (32:13):

I think it’s living, uh, it’s living Scott’s motto, uh, that will hear at the end of the show today. And, uh, and really there’s, there’s a huge bunch of people out there just looking for the opportunity and the lightning rods to be able to contribute. And I just put, again, Oasis Africa has been, thousands of people have been involved in it. Yeah. Supply chain, community that have been right at the front end of that,

Scott Luton (32:35):

Uh, love that, uh, Kim winner. And so thank you again, and Kim, for all that you do and all that you’ve shared. So folks, you have lots, these are just two of the many, many, um, really, uh, great noble missions out there that you can find a way to help support. So, um, we can’t get, you know, 20 minutes doesn’t, doesn’t give any of this an, uh, enough justice, but let’s for the sake of today’s conversation, I wanna move forward. Cause I want to get in to, uh, a couple of topics. Uh, the first Greg and Kim and Maureen is supply chain risk. We’re talking risks in global supply chain. It seems like it’s been an hourly, uh, conversation going back months now. So PWC has recently released its digital trends in supply chain survey for 2022. And as our friends at CSA point out here, lots of interesting findings, however, Greg, as we talk about quite a bit, nothing probably too surprising for most supply chain leaders and practitioners. Uh, so in, they interviewed 244 supply chain officers, uh, a couple things here, uh, as expected most C operational issues as a major or moderate risk, most find securing raw materials from suppliers as a major or moderate risk, and most also find insufficient diversification of supplier base for critical supplies to be a major or moderate risk. So, Greg, uh, based on your view of the data, uh, and this article, what are some of your observations here?

Greg White (34:05):

Duh <laugh>

Greg White (34:07):

Um, that’s, <laugh>, that’s probably my biggest one. I mean, I think, um, look, I think one thing I wanna make sure that we do is distinguish between diversification and of supplier diversification is something we have always needed and always had the ability to do diversity as well, of course, but what they mean when they say diversification is have a plan a and have a plan B, right? Don’t solely source from someone in a risky area, or don’t frankly don’t solely sourced from one supplier, one region, one country, whatever you, whatever. Um, always have a backup plan. I mean, the essence of supply chain is not cost saving. As we have been taught for decades, even in supply chain, uh, programs and universities, it’s not cost savings. It is two to liver and it is to do so by. And, and the only way we can do that is by mitigating all kinds of risks.

Greg White (35:08):

Some of those risks are costs. Some of those risks are failure, uh, in, in operations. Some of those are blind spots, some of those are illegal or corrupt activities as well. And so you have to keep your eyes on a, all of those things in order to be able to deliver, um, uh, you know, I think the, uh, to me today, from what I’ve seen over the last 26 months, the biggest risk that we face in supply chain today is blind spots. Where’s my stuff. Can I count on my stuff, getting there? Can I count on you to source produce or deliver it? Right? The, those, the, uh, the, I don’t knows in supply chain are what kill us. So we need to have, um, more insight into who can deliver who’s at risk of not delivering, um, and why.

Scott Luton (36:04):

Hmm.

Kim Winter (36:04):

So

Scott Luton (36:05):

Well said.

Greg White (36:06):

Yeah. I think aside from everything that you read in this, in this survey, you have to take it up a level to recognize that supply chain is not a cost saving exercise. It is a risk balancing exercise.

Scott Luton (36:20):

Yep. The, I don’t knows will kill you. And that reminds me of my youngest son, Ben, his, uh, I hear probably about 17 times each, uh, each weekend day, spending time with him, ask him a question. I didn’t know. I didn’t know. And that’s do you N O uh, so that <laugh>, that’s

Greg White (36:41):

Spelling that’s right.

Scott Luton (36:43):

Um, so Kim winter, I’m get your take first. And then Maureen, we’ll have you weigh in what stood out to you. I know that you’re, uh, you and your team are actively, you know, you got your on the pulse, a number of different what stood out to you.

Kim Winter (36:55):

Yeah. Well, thanks. Uh, thanks Greg. Thanks. Uh, so me, uh, the two words are glue and, um, what’s at the bottom line. So following on from Greg’s, uh, functional and strategic analysis, what I with my glasses on is where are the people, what decisions are they making and why, why are they doing what they’re doing and what is the problem that they’re causing, or why they, and what they need to do to solve the problem in these very, very dynamic and disrupted times. So just coming back to, to, to what you’re talking about there, Greg, which is, you know, a hundred percent it behind all of that, we have these massive mega trends taking place at the moment, uh, dominated by a massive shortage of talent. I’m trying not to use the word massive too much, but significant significance Australian thing. Um, and what we have is we have this incredible shortage of people being able to be in the right place at the right time to make the decisions, to get the freight through and get the supply chain happening in, in the right place at the right time.

Kim Winter (38:10):

So, so what I’m seeing is behind those stats, and I’ve read the whole, um, and report, is’ seeing enormous resignation, the, the great resignation, um, which is very prevalent in places like Australia and Zealand at the moment part the population in the world, but I’m sure you’re getting in the, I know it’s in the as well. So people are leaving for a whole range of reasons. It, it triggered by COVID and we, maybe we can talk about that, but a lot of people now wanna be consultants, consultants, contractors, interim managers that wanna move outta the, wanna get outta the offices originally for health reasons. Cause they were told to get, and now we’re seeing this really distributed talent forced around the place and often not enough people actually on the tools in the workplace, in the warehouses, on the ships, in the aircraft, in the restaurants, servicing people. Mm. So what we’re seeing is there this incredible, uh, gap between what’s required in the supply chain and what’s being supplied. I dunno what you’re seeing, uh, Maureen, uh, in terms of you guys are right in the middle of it, you’re running a very diverse, uh, logistics organization. Well, that’s what we’re seeing. We’re seeing a lot of gaps cause of the shortage of talent.

Maureen Woolshlager (39:27):

Yeah. I mean, I think that we’re seeing, I mean, one of the, when I was reading this and you know, you guys were talking, I was kind of going through the article a little bit more. I think like what Greg said about supply chain being about balancing risk. I think, um, you know, I, I work with, you know, a couple like my customers, let’s say I have a group that just says, you know, what, whatever we need to do, let’s get it on the water. Let’s get it shipped because they remember what happened with COVID where all your eggs are in one basket. And like we said, there’s no diversity in where things are coming from. And they, they were in a pickle, right. They everything’s on the other side of the ocean, everything’s shut down. And then we were all buying stuff. So there’s a lot of, let’s say stockouts, but I do some customers that have really kinda short term memory.

Maureen Woolshlager (40:13):

And they’re like, well, I don’t know that I wanna ship it yet. I think rates are gonna keep going down and I’m like, look, you always have to, let’s not forget. I’m hoping there’s not another situation like with, at the level of COVID. Right. But your stuff is all, all still in the same place. One place Shanghai is in lockdown. There’s all these other things. What kind of curve ball is gonna come in? And if you haven’t chosen to diversify where you’re getting your things from, or your supply chain by adding some different origins or different metrics, you know, with your customers, I think that there is a huge risk and I’m, I’m talking to a lot of people who are forgetting kind of what happened before. And we’re kind of reverting back to our, our old ways, like the pre COVID way, instead of looking at, okay, let’s diversify where we’re getting our stuff from or our lead times, or maybe we wanna do thing, just kind of thinking a little bit outside the box in terms of how do we move forward and, and balance that risk. Um, I think Greg’s right. You don’t study a supply chain in the book and learn, um, about risk balance. You learn more about efficiency, you know, is it, um, specialization or, or not, and is it, is it cheaper to have one place to get it versus multiple? And I think the risk balancing is hasn’t quite caught up with the, uh, the textbooks yet. Um, but I think Greg has a, has a good point. And you know, if anything, the past year has, has shown us that for sure

Scott Luton (41:48):

Agreed. And I know we all want it to go back pre COVID and maybe some folks are fooling themselves that it’s gonna go back, but it’s not folks, I got late breaking news for you. Um, OK. Even so

Greg White (41:59):

Even Scott, even if it does, even if the supply chain stabilizes, everyone knows what supply chain means now they can’t, they can’t forget that they can’t unknow that. And so we are at the level of recogni in the world that sales and marketing are, and that’s forever. Right. And think about what happens to companies when their sales don’t come through or their ad programs, don’t work, people get fired, <laugh> stocks collapse, right. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and, and supply chain is at that level now. So you can’t hide in the shadows anymore. There are no dark spaces right. In the supply chain anymore. So

Maureen Woolshlager (42:39):

It’s kinda nice to talk to people and their eyes don’t GL over when you’re like, I work in supply chain they’re likes and, uh, and they just turn away, like, I dunno how to respond. You know?

Scott Luton (42:49):

Well, the, the pickle Maureen mentioned that many fi many folks find themselves in is not of the variety. It is of an B’s kerosene pickle variety. So just so y’all know, um, let me share this a couple quick comments here. PMI. Great to have you here today via LinkedIn says sourcing materials should be multifaceted as sourcing is strictly never saving costs, but the efficiency of delivery, excellent point there PMI says, uh, managing our performance should also be critically, uh, and regularly and consistent looked into Keon, says multiple sourcing instead of single sourcing while ensuring those critical items are reasonably outsourced. As we will compromise the ability of our business to deliver products to our customers, uh, Benson, Hey, appreciate your feedback here. Says quite experience, educative knowledge sharing thoughts about what supply chain is not. It’s a great job here panel. Michael says we, we used multisource internally, also not just from outside suppliers, but within our own warehouse distribution network to make sure we could deliver as promised.

Scott Luton (43:53):

And finally, John Perry at t-shirt is Greg specialization leads to extinction. How about that? Okay, so, so much a comment on there. Uh, Greg, Maureen, and Kim, but I wanna move forward cause, uh, we’ve got one more, uh, great, uh, really interesting, relevant, uh, development to, uh, get everybody’s take on. And that is what’s going on with, uh, the Palm oil industry. So Greg, uh, from one of your latest supply chain summaries, of course we’ll get Kim and Maureen to, to Wayne in just a second. Um, tell us about Indonesia’s Palm oil export ban and what’s going on there.

Greg White (44:33):

So, I mean, it may have even changed in the last day, but, uh, recently they had to ban exporting Palm oil because they couldn’t get any supply in their own country. So, um, of the 45.6 million tons of, of Palm oil that Indonesia exports, they themselves consume 16 million tons. So a third of their production and what was happening was the Palm oil companies were sending it overseas because prices were so high and it it’s a staple item in Indonesia, right. For recipes and, and other products there. It’s also, this is one of the most destructive products on the entire planet, right? It, they are burning millions of acres of rainforest to produce more Palm oil, just like, um, Brazil is burning millions of acres of P of, of rainforest to produce more soybeans and soybean oil. Um, so you know, it it’s, uh, a product that’s had its troubles to begin with.

Greg White (45:45):

The problem is there aren’t any practical options because Palm oil is in every, everything from cosmetics to ice cream and all kinds of products in, in between. If you, if you think you’re doing good for the environment, don’t eat Marrin. Right. Uh, um, and there are very few alternatives right now because soybean oil, even though, uh, Argentina is the largest producer of soybeans in the entire planet, they have their own internal issues with consumption. And so they have cut back their exports dramatically so that you can’t use that olive oil and other oils, uh, sunflower oil, guess what? 80% of all sunflower oil production is occurs in Russia or the Ukraine. Mm. So there aren’t a lot of options. Prices are really very high. Ultimately I think, um, that that Palm oil will be, um, it will be again to be exported again, but I couldn’t help, but think what a great opportunity to try to wean ourselves from Palm oil, right?

Greg White (46:58):

Use butter, use animal fat, use, whatever, but, and hopefully we can get sunflower back on track as a kid from Kansas, the sunflower state, I’m a pretty big fan of sunflower oil <laugh>. Um, and, and, and that is a Nu by the way, a non undestructive crop and very easy to grow. I can tell you that those things, they just pop up, but anywhere it’s Sandy and hot mm-hmm <affirmative>. So, um, there are a lot of options. I was ho you know, the point of this article, which I do these kind of commentaries three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, but the point of this was plum, oil’s a bad thing. Anyway, maybe it’s a great opportunity for us to, to start to wean ourselves off of it. Um, I saw in the comments of, of the discussion that I had, uh, someone suggested that we, uh, that we start to that companies should have recipes that accommodate other types of oils when either price or availability becomes an, an issue for some of the other oils that they use. I’d love to see us a lot less reliant on soybeans and Palm oil, two directive products for, you know, um, helping us offset greenhouse gases because millions and million 5 million acres destroyed, uh, to, to accommodate these crops.

Scott Luton (48:22):

Well, so Maureen, I wanna get you and Kim way in here, but really quick. Here’s a, did you know, cause some folks may be UN from mayor with Palm oil and, uh, I wanna share this from the world wildlife fund. Uh, so all Palm trees, which is kind of what we just shared these berries, um, they were brought they’re native to Africa, but they were brought to Southeast Asia just over a hundred years ago as an ornamental tree crop. They get this mm-hmm, <affirmative> now Indonesia and Malaysia make up over 85% of global supply, although there’s still 42 other countries that produce Palm oil. So what, when Indonesia, which was the purpose, uh, of, of Greg’s discussion here, when they take action, they’re, you know, major, major, uh, market player there, but Marine, anything on Palm oil on, on what, in the, is doing any, any thoughts here?

Maureen Woolshlager (49:13):

I’m gonna be honest. I’m like not very familiar with Palm oil in terms of what I consume that has, I mean, I use a lot of butter and olive oil when I’m cooking. So, um, we don’t really use margarine, but I’m sure there there’s also environmental aspects to those as well, so. Yep. Um, but yeah, I was trying to read your article. I don’t, I’m not, and I don’t know if I need the makeup. I’m sure. Some, some of it has Palm oil in it, but yes, I don’t, I didn’t, I don’t ever buy it at the store, um, as its own bottle. So I don’t know if you, do you guys cook with it normally or

Greg White (49:47):

It’s mostly an ingredient in other products.

Kim Winter (49:50):

Okay.

Greg White (49:51):

Or in biofuel also by way,

Kim Winter (49:54):

It’s in about it’s in about 50% of what you buy pro. So the two words I’ve got for you, Scott Aang tans mm-hmm <affirmative> orang tans, as in Obama on the world’s greatest national parks on Netflix, great series because Aang tan think Palm oil, unfortunately, and processed. So 50% Maureen of what you read on packaged foods and any supermarket anywhere in the world has got Palm oil in. So I’ve been hunting it out for 20 years. The third word, and let it go from here is get onto natural foods. As Greg was saying, contact the natural products, no matter what you’re doing and save yourself, cause Palm oil will kill you sooner or

Maureen Woolshlager (50:36):

Later, I’m gonna, I’m gonna check out what they look at on the ingredients. Cause I know we’ve done a lot of looking in the house on like, um, high fructose corn syrup, but it has like all these different names that are on the ingredients. So you don’t necessarily, so I’ll look to see what it says.

Kim Winter (50:51):

They’ll put VIG to the oil.

Scott Luton (50:53):

<laugh> got it. All right. So, uh, Greg, Maureen, and Kim diving into Palm oil and, and really, um, quite a situation we find ourselves in, but you know, I’m gonna find an alternative, but you know, Greg, to what you put in your summary, you know, you’ll get manufac and, and I can’t quote you. I’m sure you’ll correct me if I get it wrong, but we’ll get manufacturers’ attention when it impacts the top line and the bottom line. Is that right? Right.

Greg White (51:23):

That’s right. All right. Yeah. I mean, I mean, we, we have to be more aware and we have to stop doing it. Indonesia is not gonna, I mean, this, this is one of the worst run, most pollutive and destructive countries on the entire planet, right? Something like some huge percentage of all plastics in the ocean come from Indonesia as well, by the way. Um, they they’re, um, they maybe don’t have any choice, but nonetheless they’re one of the most destructive nations on the planet and they are not gonna do anything about it while there’s a business for it. And to the point that Michael AIT made when they moved those plants from Africa to Indonesia, they actually grew better in Indonesia than they did in Africa, like kudzu, when they brought kudzu from China to the Southeast of the United States to, for, to alleviate erosion, it grew 10 times, literally 10 times as fast in the south as it did in China. You can literally watch kudzu grow I’ve

Maureen Woolshlager (52:28):

Comment.

Scott Luton (52:29):

Yes. Um, so Michael

Maureen Woolshlager (52:32):

Vera, yeah.

Scott Luton (52:33):

Uh, T squared says the new abnormal and supply chain management is further cemented, uh, BAU and SCM never really existed, but the pandemic underscored the point, BAU acronym B AU, that, that that’s not striking me this

Greg White (52:48):

Squared,

Scott Luton (52:49):

Um, T square fill us in. Um, okay. And we also got something from Moses, but I we’ll leave that there. It looks like, uh, we got some, uh, miracle medicines <laugh> out there. All right. So Greg and winter business as

Maureen Woolshlager (53:04):

Usual business as usual,

Scott Luton (53:06):

Uh oh, okay. Gotcha. Business usual. It’s great. Call out Marine. And by the way, Christy says search for clean and bath clean bath and body products, as well as skincare and rule out products to use Palm oil and other harmful ingredients. She’s got a link there. So y’all check that out. Um, we’ve got just a couple of quick minutes here. This always goes by fast. Um, I really enjoyed the frontend, the conversation focused on Oasis Africa and certainly leveraging logistics for, uh, Ukraine. Thank y’all both for you and your respective teams for what you’re doing. We’re proud to support it. You know, you give from what you have. And, and certainly one of the things we like to do is try to give it as much visibility amongst our global ecosystem, as we can, uh, really quick as we wrap Maureen, how can folks connect with you and again, get plugged into what vector’s doing.

Maureen Woolshlager (53:52):

Um, you can go to vector gl.com, go to our website and you can find, um, our tab about Ukraine. You can sign up for our, uh, live stream each week through there. You can find me on, on LinkedIn. Uh, I don’t think I’m private, but I’m not like a public figure. So you have to request to find me. Um, and then if you wanna reach out to me over email and you kind of fumble with my email address, just try me at Ukraine, vector gl.com because there’s only three of us on that email and I’m one of them. So, um, would love to hear if from you, even if it’s not about Ukraine, definitely reach out. Um, and I’ll put you in touch with the right person if it’s not me.

Scott Luton (54:31):

Wonderful. Thank you, Maureen. And thanks for you bet. Always a pleasure. And then Kim winner beyond Oasis Africa, of course, uh, logistics, executive, uh, what, um, how can folks connect with you?

Kim Winter (54:44):

Yes, sir. So, uh, you at Kim winter, K I M w I N T R LinkedIn. We love LinkedIn. It’s a big part of our, uh, executive search business and, uh, also our consulting business. So Kim winter on LinkedIn or logistics executive group on LinkedIn logistics, executive group, or logistics executive, the hub of your supply chain. So all on LinkedIn and Kim winter, or Kim w logistics, executive.com. And you can get me anytime day or night, as you can see here, we’re in the middle of the night’s

Maureen Woolshlager (55:21):

That’s all right.

Kim Winter (55:23):

Celebrating with a celebr shirt, you know, two kilometers, the world’s 11th largest port Jeb alley. <laugh> right. Uh, Scott Jeb Ali port DP world.

Scott Luton (55:34):

Yes. Thank you, Kim. Uh, uh, that is a word, you know, Hey, there’s, there’s only about 18,000 words that give me a hard time that certainly one of them, um, but really appreciate admire, um, what both of you and your organizations are. And, um, you know, Kindra spirits is certainly how we’ve gotten through, uh, in camaraderie and, and taking action and helping others, how we’ve gotten through through the last few years. And again, uh, y’all really epitomize that and always a pleasure to reconnect with y’all. Um, all right. So Greg, right here at the end folks know now how to connect with Marine and Kim and get involved. Uh, we of course encourage people to take action, do something, right, right. Your final thought here before I sign off.

Greg White (56:15):

Um, I mean, I think what, what we’ve discovered is it’s really easy to get started. And if you can’t do something, if you can’t start an initiative like Maureen and her team and Kim and his team have done part, find one that motivates you and participate in it. One of the biggest challenges is everybody wants to have their own initiative, but we don’t. In many cases need a new initiative. There are plenty of initiatives that can, that you can contribute to and make things happen. And it’s a lot less work and it’s still every bit is satisfying because people like Kim and Enrique and Marine, they keep you informed of how your funds are being used and you can count on them to do the right thing.

Scott Luton (56:58):

Well, yeah, a hundred percent, uh, as, as Jeff rancor says about 17 times in each brave tele county hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. That’s right. Love Jeff. Um, alright, so big. Thanks. Uh, Maureen wool Slager with vector global logistics. Big, thanks to Kim winter with the logistics executive group. Always a pleasure. Two dear friends. Uh, Greg love having these conversations with you. Big, thanks to Chantel Amanda and Catherine behind the scenes helping to make today’s production happen, but folks, whatever you do, and thanks so much for showing up in the comments. No, we couldn’t get everybody’s comment, but thank you. Appreciate all, uh, what everyone shared. Um, Scott Luton challenging you. Hey, be like Maureen and Kim winter. Do good. Give forward and be the change that’s needed. And on that note, we see next time, right back here on supply chain now and your buddy.

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