The Supply Chain Buzz is Supply Chain Now’s regular Monday livestream, held at 12n ET each week. This show focuses on some of the leading stories from global supply chain and global business, always with special guests – the most important of which is the live audience!

This week’s edition of The Buzz featured Scott Luton, co-host Constantine Limberakis, and special guest Mary Kate Soliva. She joined the second half of the show to talk about the impact of Typhoon Mawar, the strongest typhoon to hit the island in over 20 years. Guam is home to 150,000 residents as well as Andersen Air Force Base.

In this livestream, created in collaboration with a live Supply Chain Now audience, Scott and Constantine discussed:

• The growing demand for lithium batteries versus the constraint associated with just three countries – Australia, Chile, and China – being responsible for 92 percent of the world’s supply

• Operational challenges resulting from contract negotiations between the longshore workers’ union and West Coast port operators

• The expansion of automation, and why Jeff Bernstein, President of the Association for Advancing Automation, thinks agriculture, food processing, and healthcare will be next

Intro/Outro (00:03):

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Scott Luton (00:31):

Hey, hey. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, Scott Luton and special guest host Constantine LEAs with you here on Supply Chain. Now, welcome to today’s livestream, Constantine. How you doing?

Constantine Limberakis (00:43):

I’m doing great, Scott. How are you?

Scott Luton (00:45):

I am doing wonderful. Good weekend. Uh, got a great show teed up here today. Uh, are you ready? And, and of course we should say, uh, Constantine, a k a, Dean Owners, a few of the nicknames, right?

Constantine Limberakis (00:57):

The pseudonyms that you are famous for <laugh>,

Scott Luton (01:00):

Cheesy, hokey whate, whatever y’all wanna call me. But, um, Greg White is on a very studious assignment, don’t you think, Constantine? Mm-hmm.

Constantine Limberakis (01:09):

<affirmative>, I’d say Europe is always studious. <laugh> <laugh>.

Scott Luton (01:12):

Well, safe travels wherever Greg may be, and, uh, we’ll welcome him back in a week or so. Alright, so Constantine, we got a lot to get to here today. Uh, of course, it’s a supply chain buzz, a live show that comes at you every Monday at 12 noon eastern time. As always, we’re gonna be, uh, discussing a wide variety of news and developments, uh, really across the global business scene. And Constantine, on a, uh, a much more serious note, we have a special guest joining us about right around 12:30 PM Eastern Time today, as Mary Kate Saliva will join us, uh, to discuss the ongoing disastrous scene in Guam and how you can help Constantine, that was, um, already in the green room in the pre show. Uh, she shared some eye-opening, uh, observations, huh? Mm-hmm.

Constantine Limberakis (01:58):

<affirmative> for sure. Yeah, I mean, it’s just, uh, the situation there, like in any place when there’s a natural disaster, it’s terrible, you know, especially when it’s something that’s related to the United States. And raising awareness, I think is key. So I think you’re doing a great job in helping promote that.

Scott Luton (02:16):

Well, and Constantine, we’re gonna touch more on that, that awareness piece is so key. And, you know, some things, when you type in topic in Google or your favorite search engine, you get hundreds of recent news stories to inform you and, and give you information or whatever. And then others, you do the same thing, and there is just a dearth of information, especially timely recent information. So, uh, y’all stay tuned about 1230 as Mary Kate saliva joins us, um, here. Okay. And finally, hey, we wanna hear from y’all as well. So as we see sushi and Jacob and, and others, please share your comments, your take, you name it in the cheap seats. And we’re gonna be sharing that, um, throughout the conversation here today. And Constantine, if folks are listening to this podcast replay, maybe they ought to consider joining us live here on LinkedIn or YouTube, or whatever other social media channel of your choosing is. We’d love to hear from you. Uh, Constantine, what is your favorite social media site channel platform?

Constantine Limberakis (03:16):

Um, I don’t know. I, I’d have to probably say LinkedIn part of it, because I remember joining this back in the day, it was like 2006 or something way before anybody had really thought of it. And I was thinking, it’s a great way to, to share your profile. It became the digital resume. And I now think it’s just the, the status quo, right? So I, and is it, is it a true social media? I guess? I dunno how you define that, but to me that would be it. And obviously Twitter, it’s, that’s taken its whole thing. But I think LinkedIn for me,

Scott Luton (03:49):

Well, you know, the term social media has evolved tremendously since the beginning, whenever that was, and continues to evolve tremendously. But, uh, LinkedIn is, that’s where most folks join us, uh, for the buzz each week. So I think that’s probably, you’re in, uh, you got, you’re in a, a big crowd that perhaps put LinkedIn a top there. Social media favorites. All right. Hey, we’ve got, speaking of which we got, as I mentioned, we have sushi tuned in. Hey, let us know where you’re tuned in from. Of course, you’re via LinkedIn, so great to have you here today. We’ve got, uh, Jacob from Mombasa, Kenya, also via LinkedIn. Great to see you, Jacob. Uh, we have got Jose. Jose, great to see you. Jose Montoya from Southern California, I believe Jose and, uh, also has a great show on supply chain and logistics. You ever caught any of his, uh, content yet, Constantine?

Constantine Limberakis (04:45):

No, but I’ve definitely been in interested to do so, so send that over. Take a

Scott Luton (04:49):

Look. Got to, that’s right. Uh, let’s see here. Prof, Tiwi, and I hope I got that right. If I didn’t, let, let us know. We’d like, it’s important to get named, right? Uh, as I like to tell folks, my last name is Lutton, but it’s been pronounced at least on the first day of school for my entire life, Lutton, right? And that’s always seared a need to get everyone else’s name, right? So prf Tiwi, great to see you here via, uh, LinkedIn from Indonesia. All right. So Constantine, we’re going to share a couple of quick resources with folks. Give me one. So you’re, uh, Chicago’s home base? Yes. Is it still kind of cool in Chicago here in the first week of June, we

Constantine Limberakis (05:26):

Have reached the, uh, turning point in Chicago as weather, where now everybody’s out. And you’ve seen your neighbors for the first time in, in months. <laugh>. I’m not kidding. It’s if there’s like a phenomenon in Chicago where like, you don’t see people for months and then all of a sudden everyone comes out, the barbecues have started. And the other thing that we always say in Chicago is there’s two seasons. Winter and construction. <laugh>. I’m not kidding. It’s all the potholes that they’re filling in because of all the salt that we get.

Scott Luton (05:56):

So, hey, I, I believe it. Uh, I experienced some of that. Uh, I think when Clay and I, I headed up in Chicago, coming back and forth to the airport at, we hit, in fact, coming back from the airport as we were, um, you know, trying to arrive, uh, on time to get through security and all our Uber driver was driving a, uh, Tesla mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and said he had like one hour of battery life. And I looked at Clay, I’m like, man, what does that mean? And are we gonna make it <laugh>? Rest assured Clay made sure we got there. But, uh, anyway, and this is, uh, so I think this is, uh, and big thanks to man and Katherine behind the scenes. It’s a supply chain now, probably Amanda says That’s funny. Constantine, Atlanta has two seasons, but they’re summer and construction <laugh>. Agreed. Agreed. Um, alright, so let’s change gears. And I want to add something over the, the, the weekend. So, so with that said, folks, y’all may have seen this, uh, time or two. I think this was episode 36 of our LinkedIn newsletter. And, uh, we really focused Constantine on finding great ideas. Amidst all the noise, there’s tons of noise out there, right? Tons of noise. So we, we offered a, a really interesting, uh, probably seven or eight item list, uh, along with a few other things. Did you happen to catch that Constantine?

Constantine Limberakis (07:16):

Uh, not this time around, but I’m gonna definitely look at it in the next one.

Scott Luton (07:20):

All right. So Dino, we’re gonna have to start giving you a homework list. Yes. On Fridays before the buzz. Now, check that out. In fact, Hey, Amanda, Catherine are making it easy on us. We got the yes, the link here. Folks can check it out. And y’all tell us what you think. We’ve, um, had a lot of interesting feedback, Constantina, we’ve had, uh, I think we’re approaching 22,000 subscribers. How about that? Oh,

Constantine Limberakis (07:44):

Wow. It’s impressive. All

Scott Luton (07:46):

Right. Going back to Jacob and social media. Jacob says he thinks by far LinkedIn is his favorite social media platform. Cause it’s easier to organize, have quality circle meetings, plan where we can interact and share our views on the development of our work as a team. Jacob, I love that, um, that real practical use of social media, Constantine. Yeah. Yeah.

Constantine Limberakis (08:07):

You know, one thing I actually discovered one day when I was doing a meeting with some colleagues, uh, back in the day in Munich, uh, is you can actually do meetings through, through LinkedIn too. So there’s a lot of things that they’re developing on that platform. And the other thing I like about it is the LinkedIn learning. Hmm. Um, I’ve talked to people where they’re leveraging that now in, in the format, ongoing certification and learnings, and it’s a right. It’s really become, so, so that’s my point is, is what is social media? It’s just a platform for everything. So it’s, it’s, it’s cool.

Scott Luton (08:40):

Uh, agreed. And Jonathan longtime, uh, member of our community, he echoes what you’re saying and learn. Yes, yes, yes. Learn, learn, learn. Jonathan Opes finds you well, and you can tell with his certifications, Jonathan is a constant active, lifelong learner. Hope this finds you well, Jonathan. Now Catherine says TikTok is her favorite. Uh, I think I tried to click. Well, you know what? I’m not gonna tell myself I’m still, uh, <laugh>, I’m still evaluating TikTok. How about you, Dino? I

Constantine Limberakis (09:11):

Am absolutely the same. I, I, I’ve tried to look at it and I said, you know what? I, I dunno, maybe it’s a generational thing, you know, it’s the next thing, but, uh, it, no <laugh> it exploded too. Well. Well,

Scott Luton (09:23):

I’m gonna stick on that learning opportunity you mentioned, because I wanna make sure folks are aware. So tomorrow we have got an, another live session, a dedicated live session. Get this, I love this title. Faster, cheaper, better. We’re gonna be addressing ideas to make that happen, especially in the manufacturing space. So, hey, sign me up. Faster, cheaper, better. Uh, Constantine, uh, always reminds me of, um, the six, remember the old show, the $6 million Man?

Constantine Limberakis (09:51):

Of course, Steve Austin. Absolutely.

Scott Luton (09:53):

What do you think inflation has taken that price to?

Constantine Limberakis (09:56):

$6 million Man? I dunno. Maybe like <laugh> 79, <laugh>.

Scott Luton (10:00):

Probably so, probably so. But folks, uh, be sure to join us tomorrow. We we’re gonna make it really easy, um, joined by my, uh, dear friends, uh, special Coast, Alison Giddens. And we’ve got the link to this, uh, livestream with our friends from s a p and Deloitte right here. One click away right there in the chat. Um, okay, Anne, our friend Constantine. Gino Pledger is here, the pride of North Alabama. Hope this finds you well, uh, Gina via LinkedIn. Um, alright, so Constantine, it is time to get to work. Are you ready?

Constantine Limberakis (10:34):

I am ready. Alright.

Scott Luton (10:36):

Uh, and again, folks, we’re gonna, we’re gonna tackle a couple of news stories on the front end of the buzz here today. And then about 1230 or so, maybe a little bit before. We’re gonna welcome in, uh, Mary Kate saliva, and we’re gonna be talking more about Typhoon Mair and its, uh, disastrous impact, uh, across, uh, Guam and elsewhere. So, uh, join us for that and especially how you can help. That’s really, really important. Um, alright, so Dina, let’s get started here. Our first story. So first story here, we’re talking about the lithium battery industry, but this is actually, I think this is gonna be a different take with some optimism. Don’t let us lose you yet. Uh, this comes from our friends at the Wall Street Journal. Now I’m gonna open this Constantine before I get your take with a couple of dig. You knows, the first dig, you know, 92% of the world’s lithium supply comes from three countries, Australia, Chile, and China also did, you know, demand for lithium batteries is projected to increase by almost six times by 2030. When that market, the, the battery market should reach 52 billion. So with all of that demand and the, and really, uh, not quite a monopoly, but with so much of it coming from just three countries, for some, uh, a variety of reasons, folks may be surprised to hear one new source being examined that might help build more batteries. So, Constantine. Yeah, tell us more.

Constantine Limberakis (12:02):

Well, I think you know what you’re saying here, uh, Scott, it just rings true of the question of lithium. And you know, we all know that lithium is a main crucial component for, uh, electric vehicles for the batteries. Cuz we’re wondering why is there just sudden increase? And, you know, a lot of companies are researching and exploring kind of different ways or unconventional ways of looking at, uh, finding or extracting that now. And, um, one of the ways they’re doing that, and again, I’m not an expert in this topic, but the idea behind where they’ve mined for these traditionally has now come fast forward to say, well, we might have a different way of doing something that we’ve used in the past. And I think the one thing that the article points out is that they’re looking at oil and gas reservoirs to meet this demand.

Constantine Limberakis (12:55):

So if you imagine when you’re extracting oil, and in the past they would have, uh, a lot of, you know, re residual minerals from these, uh, areas of where they were extracting these from. And now they’re saying, Hey, this might be, there might be some technologies that we could apply or new approaches. We can actually make more use of this. And they call these, this, they call this brine. If you think like brine with saltwater, if you take a brine of other things, right? And the reservoirs that that contains the lithium has a huge opportunity that to go back where they might have already taken the oil out. And I think one of the main points they’re making in the article is that there’s two traditional ways of extracting lithium, right? One is that they were saying as this, this, uh, rock, uh, uh, mining.

Constantine Limberakis (13:42):

And that’s where a lot of that’s being done in, in China, where there’s this concern over a lot of the chemical waste that’s produced from the traditional way of doing it. Sure. Um, and there was a certain word that I found, I wanna make sure I get it spelled right. So for those geologists that are out there, cuz there are majors in geology, I think it was called spo domine sto spo domine, okay. Hard rock Mining of lithium. So that was one source, and that was the big issue, was creating chemical waste. The other i is, is called solar evaporation. And this is where they kind of take the mine and they, they the, I guess it, there’s an evaporation process, but the problem that they’ve talked about there is that there’s often, uh, issues because of water scarcity and there’s low recovery rates Mm. Of the lithium. So they’re talking about this new method in using, and they’re calling it direct lithium extraction. And it’s a process of removing the lithium, as we were talking about before, from the oil field brine, and that it allows us to be, uh, more effective in using, have multi case purposes of when you’re doing it oil extraction now to also Lithia. So, so it’s kind of an interesting, I guess, development where you’re trying to apply these technologies to improve stuff that they’ve already had started.

Scott Luton (14:59):

I love it. What a great article. Uh, and, and, and I think, uh, some newer spins on industry that everyone knows is, is um, is growing left and right, cause of all the demand from a variety of different reasons ev and beyond, but to, to, uh, spike the football on a couple of points you made, um, this direct extraction, you’re, you’re talking about it can be cleaner. They’re still, you know, working on a variety of applications. It can be cleaner, it can produce a much higher yield. One, one part of this, uh, and I’ll pull the article back up again from our friends. Wall Street Journal, uh, talks about how concentrated lithium and brine ponds can take, you know, a year and a half and it can only recover sometimes about 50% of the lithium and some of the brine, some of the direct extraction that you’re referring to and what the whole article is focused on could offer recovery and yield as much as 90% and be cleaner. And the other thing that all, of course, if this all pans out, no pun intended, uh, you probably can’t pan for lithium. But, um, if all this stuff pans out, um, imagine how we can really spread out lithium production and, and spread out, you know, embrace it more across North America is almost like a byproduct of oil and gas or Yeah. Um, you know, we’ll see kind of how the back and forth goes. But I thought this was a, a great innovative, uh, interesting read and looking forward to seeing how this plays out. Right?

Constantine Limberakis (16:24):

Yeah. Yeah. A and I think part of it too is, is that it, it provides another use case for the petroleum industry as they’re already doing this. They’re now gonna be able to apply another, and we’re talking about revenue, right? So rather than making this a compliance issue and a forced issue from a regulation mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they’re finding innovative ways to apply things that they’ve already been doing and using that with the innovations that are happening with this ev that that’s I think, a great aspect to this. Agreed. The problem, one of the challenges I think, too, that we do need to call out is that often the adoption of this is very tailored, depending upon what is in this brine, like what the residuals are. And they’re, they have to fine tune it. So we would almost call it a bespoke process depending upon where you’re, we’re trying to apply this direct lithium extraction. And, uh, that might have a higher operating cost for, for, for that because of the way that, and this is still a developing technology, but again, because of the interest, we know that money comes in innovation creates new ways and better ways. And that could, as, as I think what’s makes us exciting, rather than relying on the three countries you mentioned and, uh, approaching it in a way that’s more sustainable. So you’re right. Telling many birds with one stone. I don’t know if that’s PC to say, <laugh>,

Scott Luton (17:48):

Don’t kill my birds. Dino, don’t kill my birds, man. I know. I,

Constantine Limberakis (17:52):

We are both bird people as we discovered Yes. Last week. Correct.

Scott Luton (17:56):

<laugh> definitely, definitely. Uh, I really enjoyed that conversation too. Hey. Uh, but but kidding aside, yes. Um, as an excellent point and as, uh, Gina says, definitely value add for petroleum suppliers. Uh, and, and you know, there’s a lot of moving pieces, but what is inarguable is that six x growth in demand. There’s, this is gonna be the first probably of many in many of creative and entrepreneurial and innovative ways at me at, at helping to meet that demand. Tons and tons, whether you like it or not, tons and tons of money can be made, uh, in that, in the, in the battery business for sure. Um, okay. And by the way, Massau, great to have you here via LinkedIn. Hello. Welcome back. After joining, uh, after a long time, he says, uh, but hey, getting back to the article, don’t take our word for it. Check it out for yourself. Let us know what you think. We got the link to it right there in the chat. Okay. So, Constantine, are you ready to dive into the second topic? Yes. Here today. All right, so let’s talk ports and freight and shipping and all kinds of stuff here. So, uh, have you been keeping your eye Constantine on what’s going on on the West Coast?

Constantine Limberakis (19:09):

Absolutely. Okay. Uh, you know, it’s I guess the largest, uh, ports that we have, right? You’ve got all the ports that are there, Los Angeles, long Beach, Oakland,

Scott Luton (19:20):

So all the, all the cool kids. So Constantine, <laugh>, I want to talk, let’s talk about what’s going on there. So negotiations continue between Longshore Workers’ Union and the port operators up and down the West Coast, to your point mm-hmm. <affirmative> as supply chain dive reports. Now five ports in California and Washington experienced issues as they didn’t meet normal operations last week, at least as recently as Friday, uh, due to some degree of a workforce shortage. The port of Oakland, in particular is reported to have suffered the biggest disruption of all. And on Friday it’s international terminals were closed throughout the day. So a lot of eyes will be on the West Coast ports today to see if operational issues continue while the negotiators fight to get a deal done. One last point, Constantine, before I get your take here. The, uh, longshore workers unions say it is nothing intentional and deliberate. A lot of folks don’t take their, uh, statements to the bank. We’ll see. But Constantine, what you’re taking on, what’s going on here, uh, on West Coast ports?

Constantine Limberakis (20:25):

Well, I, I think in just reading that article and just kind of some of the others that were related to it, um, is that it, it goes back to, I think it even kind of goes back to the covid and the labor shortage and the pressures that these longshoremen are feeling in terms of trying to turn things around. This might go back to the question of automation versus human labor and all that, but you know, because of those pressures, these people are feeling strained of, of more work with less people. It’s a dynamic that we’re experiencing in a lot of other industries that are labor intensive. And, um, you know, it, they have, there’s a lot of pressure that needs to be put here because that could put a stranglehold as we noticed from Covid, um, on the ability to bring material and, and finish product, uh, to, to the United States. So, um, the other thing I I heard is because of some of these disputes, there have even been some shipping that has gone around and avoided the West Coast and gone down into, under the East Coast. So it’s interesting, uh, where this development might take shape. You know, I’m sure they’re gonna resolve it at some point, but does this require some kind of executive intervention at some point? Does it get that serious?

Constantine Limberakis (21:44):

I don’t know. But this, this is, this is kind of the bull whip effect, covid, I dunno if you wanna use that appro appropriate term, but yeah, that might be a residual of what we’re still seeing from that.

Scott Luton (21:55):

Yep. And you know, um, you know, uh, you know, we’ve been talking about, um, the, the, the port, uh, volumes and, and the shifts for years now, the, the, what you, you brought up there, um, because, you know, one coast’s loss is, uh, oftentimes another coast gain, you know, the Port of Houston and the Gulf ha has, uh, has grown dramatically, uh, the Charleston Port and South Carolina, of course, uh, the Savannah ports here and the ports, Georgia, um, you know, and, and many others. But the interesting thing here, uh, is what I’ve, I’ve also heard, and what maybe the article touched on and, and certainly other news reporting touched on, is, you know, a lot of folks are looking at those big profits over the last couple years that, that the shipping c companies, uh, have made and want a piece of that, to your point, Constantine, cause of all the work and, and, and how those incredible people kept things going.

Scott Luton (22:46):

Uh, but if Greg was here, cause we’ve had this conversation before, he would also point to the lean years <laugh> when there’s, when that prophet looks a lot different and how no one wants part of that. Right. So, uh, of, of course, not making light of, um, of the labor negotiations, but, uh, it’ll be interesting to see what plays out as we try to keep all of our ports moving, which of course, keeps, keeps consumers, keeps families, and keeps the economy moving. You’re the last thought, uh, Dina before we, uh, change gears quite a bit here.

Constantine Limberakis (23:18):

Well, I think part of the thing that we need to, to consider here is just the wider macroeconomic dynamics of, of inflation, right? Of how different supply chains are. I mean, if, if Covid was that pivotal moment that we’re gonna remember in the history books, uh, of where we were in a historical low inflation for how many years, uh, we didn’t even think about, we didn’t even think about how these things came here. The offshoring, the China manufacturing. We know there’s jobs that were lost as a result of manufacturing, but now we’re seeing other, uh, incidents or other related factors because of, of that. And with the increase the costs of energy with the increased costs of labor in labor force and the cost of inflation in general, this has created a new level of attention. Is this a repeat of the seventies? Mm-hmm. I, I mean, it’s not the same. There’s no way the same dynamics, uh, because of technology and other things. But that’s where you, we need to like kind of consider this, is this, the new gold is supply chain in this sense now. So critical and so important because of how quick things need to happen Mm. That we need to take more attention to this issue.

Scott Luton (24:32):

Excellent. Uh, excellent point. Uh, Dino. Um, alright, so folks, again, uh, we’ve dropped a link to, uh, one of these latest updates right here, uh, from our friends at Supply Chain Dive. And who knows, maybe there’ll be some breaking news today or this week, uh, as, uh, the negotiations are still underway. Um, alright, so shifting gears, uh, Constantine. Um, so, you know, it’s been heartbreaking to see the disaster calls by Typhoon Mowar. In fact, uh, it’s been, from what I’ve seen, uh, reported the strongest storm to hit Guam in at least 20 years. Constantine, man. So for more on this disaster, including some ways that you can help, I wanna welcome in a very special guest, uh, part of the supply chain now family. Mary Kate saliva, host of our Veteran Voices series, Mary Kate. Good morning. Uh, I hope this finds you well in light of, uh, what we’re gonna be talking about here in a minute, but great to have you here today.

Mary Kate Soliva (25:29):

Thank you so much. Hi, Scott. Hi, Constantine.

Scott Luton (25:31):

Well, hey, you know, we’ve known you for a long time, um, fellow veteran, and if I get this wrong, my apologies. I think you’re still serving the US Army Reserve. Is that right? Mary Kay?

Mary Kate Soliva (25:41):

That’s right, yes, Scott, mm-hmm.

Scott Luton (25:43):

<affirmative> the heart of a servant leader. Uh, I admire all the different ways that, uh, that you give back and give forward, as we call it here. Of course, you host our, our veteran voices, uh, programming and, uh, in about a year and a half ago founded the Guam Human Rights Initiative. So you’re doing so much good work here, but tell us about, uh, as we get started, tell us about your special ties to Guam.

Mary Kate Soliva (26:04):

Yes. And, uh, I appreciate you inviting me in on, uh, such short notice, Scott, to be able to support those impacted in Guam by this super typhoon. And, uh, so my ties to Guam. I’m actually a, a chimor descent, so my family is there now and, um, even my, my in-laws, but my immediate family and my friends are still in Guam. And I also graduated from the University of Guam. Uh, so my co-founder, Dr. Erica Anderson, we’re both graduates of the University of Guam. And it’s really means a lot to us to be able to, to have started the Guam Human Rights Initiative. Uh, the, the attention of that was to really highlight human rights issues impacting WAM and the region. And so now since the super typhoon to be able to, to give back at this time means a great deal to us,

Scott Luton (26:53):

Really on behalf of our entire supply chain now team and, and extended family, um, you know, prayers, best wishes. Thank you. Hope we, you know, we get the recovery, uh, going fa even faster. Uh, and I, and I appreciate well, how you’re reacting, like o basically overnight <laugh>, if not, you know, same hour to help out. We’ll touch on that here momentarily. But Constantine, before we, before Mary Kate shares more about, um, what she’s hearing from her family and what she’s seen and hearing across Guam, you know, uh, times like, this is how we’ve got to come together and how, you know, the supply chain community is usually in a good spot, a special spot to actually help in, in bigger ways than many other parts of global business. Your, your initial thoughts here, Dino? Yeah,

Constantine Limberakis (27:36):

I, I think, you know, it’s great that we’re able to use this platform as a way to get a great attention to the issue. Um, you know, as a, as a territory, it’s a party of the United States. Um, you know, it’s sad that we haven’t heard more about it and, and understanding what we can do to help. Uh, I think these are, this is a similar situation that happened when was in Puerto Rico, which is much closer to the continental United States. But I think this is something that we just need to raise our awareness out because it’s just so important, so devastating. And as climate change is, is sometimes causing some of these hurricanes and, and I think they call ’em typhoons, I guess on the, on the west side and hurricanes and the east side, that this is something we just need to be more aware of and how can we help prevent or do more folks that are in Guam because we’re our connection through the United States.

Scott Luton (28:28):

Completely agree. So, so Mary Kate, let’s, let’s, um, um, feel free to piggyback on any of those comments there. And I know you and I have talked about the awareness piece, uh, going back quite some time. Yes. Um, so feel free to comment on that. And then of course, we want to, you know, hear more of what you’re seeing and hearing in terms of the, um, the damage and, and a lot of the suffering going on right now.

Mary Kate Soliva (28:48):

Yes, thank you. And Constantine, just great points. And what Scott, when he says highlight, even for our listeners, we’re just finding that a lot of folks, even our fellow Americans don’t even know that Guam exists. So to know, to highlight the US territories that you even mentioned Puerto Rico and, and some of the natural disasters that have impacted them, um, Guam has been impacted by typhoons, but as you mentioned, Scott, this is the, the super typhoon that hit, um, the largest to hit in the last 20 years. Hmm. So again, even with Guam, we have the big US Navy base there, uh, and we have the big US Air Force base as well as the Guam Air Army National Guard that have been activated to support and relief efforts. Uh, so we do recruit a lot into the, our s military from Guam. And it’s just such a significant part of, and, and we are Americans, so to be able to help and highlight what’s going on right now, uh, Guam, uh, has been with without water and they’ve been on unlimited supplies. So even though the water was turned back on, um, they are still limited and rationing out their water supply. But most of the island is still without power, which is greatly impacting Arm and uncle, which are our elders on island. So, um, doing what we can as far as, uh, tho those on the ground, collecting supplies and removing debris, um, but especially seeing how we can get back to those who have lost everything, who’ve lost their homes, uh, at this time. Mm-hmm.

Scott Luton (30:07):

So, uh, Mary Kate, you were sharing a few things pre-show, and I wanna of course respect, uh, you and your family’s privacy. But you mentioned, um, cause that we’re waiting for the power grid to, to, uh, come all the way back folks have, you know, uh, to get air conditioning because of a variety of medical conditions. A lot of folks are sleeping in their cars, uh, with Yes. You know, having their ACEs on. Is that right, Mary Kay?

Mary Kate Soliva (30:29):

Yes. And, and actually I was just watching a clip, um, before we came on live as well, that was actually bringing, uh, tears to my eyes, just cuz this is very real, very raw right now. But I, I do have family that are staying in their vehicles, uh, just for the sake of having air conditioning. And, um, there was a like two days straight in a row where I couldn’t re reach some of my family because they had no power and, and, uh, there was no way to get ahold of them. So to charge their phones, they’re in their vehicles. Not everybody has generators and some who do, uh, they’re, they’re broken. So the fact that especially our elderly with our underlying health conditions, having to stay in their vehicle is just very, you know, just unacceptable how long it’s taking. Also, those who are, are doing what they can to support one another.

Scott Luton (31:14):

So, Constantine, that is, um, man, it’s heartbreaking, uh, uh, respond to what some of what we’re hearing here from Mary Kate in terms of the conditions there on the ground in Guam.

Constantine Limberakis (31:24):

Well, I, I mean, you bring up the, the humanitarian crisis, which is, you know, clear and, and, and, and obvious here with, with the situation going on and how long does that take, considering how far it is from the continental us. I don’t know how that works with the logistics with other places, say like Australia or other allies that we have. That’s just one thought. Uh, I don’t know if you can opine on that Mary Kate un understanding how, where, where are the resources coming from, where, how are, how, how are things coming to help from a first aid standpoint. The other, the other is just, again, because of being a, a, a part of the United States and how strategic the location is. You and I were talking about this, Scott, a little bit about the fact of how the geopolitics of, of the Pacific region has changed so much in recent years, uh, how important it’s, and how we need to, to, to, again, rely on the folks in Guam and, and and how in, in the military that’s there in supporting our interests strategically, um, as well. So, I mean, there’s so many levels, humanitarian, geopolitical, I’m sure there’s numbers of others that I haven’t thought of, but that’s why this is really important.

Mary Kate Soliva (32:37):

I was, and just for our listeners who, who don’t know, like Guam’s probably about the, the size of Chicago or even like San Francisco Bay, if you think about the size of it, uh, only about 212 square miles. So we have a, you know, just over 106,000 people. So it’s not very big, but in the sense of the, the community and that the fact that they’re just so resilient, you know, are the people of Guam and what they’re doing to come together. Even the mayors are using, you know, pulling money outta their own pockets to be able to support to the, their people to be able to buy water. Um, you know, what we’re really looking as far as government and federal help, you know, uh, the White House did, and President Biden had put out that proclamation of calling it an emergency. Uh, so we have been getting support.

Mary Kate Soliva (33:19):

FEMA has been coming out there and our Team Rubicon is out there as well, as well as the military being activated to support such efforts. Um, but we are closer. Guam is closer to the Philippines and to Southeast Asia than they are. A lot of times we think of Hawaii is our, our touchpoint. Um, the airlines are bringing in and the port is open again. So there is cargo regards coming in that way, but again, the movement has been very slow and the just basic necessities up and running again has been taking way too long.

Scott Luton (33:49):

Mary Kay, you were just in Guam, I wanna say maybe six, eight months ago. Is that about about right?

Mary Kate Soliva (33:54):

Yeah. Just this, this past year. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Scott Luton (33:56):

Yeah. Um, well, I’m hoping, uh, we’re all hoping that, uh, we can act more with everyone’s interests, right? Collective interests and, and get the aid needed and get, uh, all the wells for the water back online, the power grid going, uh, even the technology, as you mentioned, Mary Kate, you, a couple days went by and you couldn’t connect with your family, the cell phone, all the cell phone infrastructure’s gotta be, uh, reworked and, and brought back up online. Um, alright. So Mary Kate, let’s talk about what Guam human Rights Initiative. Y’all set up a special focused initiative, uh, to help with aid. Tell us more about that.

Mary Kate Soliva (34:34):

Yeah, so we, again, uh, we, as we mentioned about the Guam Human Rights Initiative, co-founder Dr. Erica Anderson and I, we’re, we’re both alumni of the University of Guam and University of Guam has put out their tritons Helping Tritons. And so we are looking to support them as well as some of the other local organizations and agencies on islands. So we’ve started a fundraiser campaign for the next, uh, 19 days for, to raise a thousand dollars. And I’m happy to say that just before we went live, Scott, that we’ve already raised, uh, you know, a couple hundred dollars there. So it’s, it’s really great the amount of, of help we’ve had just since we just launched this campaign. But if you are able to support, uh, the relief efforts, I, I mean, this really hits close to home because we are such a, a small island. You it, we’re not kidding when we say we really do know one another. Uh, you can’t go to the, the grocery store without running into an auntie or a cousin. Uh, so it’s just, you know, again, to be able to come together and support, including, you know, our military families that are on island as well. Uh, so thank you so much, Scott and Constantine for, you know, inviting me to join you both today to amplify this

Scott Luton (35:42):

Well, Mary Kate. Absolutely. That’s a l absolute least we can do, is help get the word out. Um, and, you know, folks would drop the link to Mary Kate, uh, and Dr Well, uh, Dr. Anderson, right?

Mary Kate Soliva (35:54):

Yeah, yeah. Anderson, yes. My, my best friend, well, we actually met in grad school, but again, it just, uh, it just kind of a little bit fun, a separate story of how we met. But again, just the fact she just recently finished her PhD and, um, you know, we’re just aligning forces in, in giving back to our fellow Tritons and, uh, the people of blonde. So, thank you again. And this is to supplies like they’re, they’re in need of, even, like I said, without the power, just need of, of flashlights. Um, even the shelters, you know, of clothing, of course, the, the food, like I said, without the power, a lot of the food has been going bad, uh, the water, um, needing those cases of water as well. So we’re just, you know, supporting financially as we can, those of us who are off island. And because we, we don’t wanna be asking those on island, they’re already spread thin with resources and funding. So we have to, we are turning to those in the US mainland and those abroad to be able to support the people.

Scott Luton (36:52):

Well, uh, really as always, uh, you’ve got an incredible track record of servant leadership with results and outcomes. Hey, before you depart, so Constantine, I think you and Mary Kate both may know, uh, Sylvia, Judy, one of our faves around here, talk about servant leadership and folks that get things done, especially for others. So, Mary Kate Haa,

Mary Kate Soliva (37:14):

Hak, half a day,

Scott Luton (37:16):

Half ak. Okay, is that, uh, what, what does that, uh, translate to?

Mary Kate Soliva (37:20):

Uh, just, it’s like you saying, saying hello, hello or aloha, like in Hawaii, a lot of folks okay, aloha, but Hak Sylvia, and it’s just, we’re great with, um, with Hoffa Day. Cuz I actually had a, a general tell me recently, he said, I went to Guam once and someone said, Hoffa Day to me, and he said, no, I’m gonna work a full day. <laugh> Iness, that’s the oldest group in the book. But, uh, it’s so funny. Um, you know, again, the spirit of Guam.

Scott Luton (37:48):

Well, uh, Mary Kate Silva with the Guam Human Rights Initiative, uh, really ad admire all that you do. We wanna get the word out folks. Uh, you can also connect if you’re not connected. And if you’re not following Mary Kate special on LinkedIn, some of the best content you, you’re gonna, uh, come across, be sure to do that. And of course, veteran Voices. I think we’re close to wrapping up our fourth season. Mary Kate. Yes. Holy cow,

Mary Kate Soliva (38:12):

It’s going very fast. But in incre, again, just to be able to amplify the voices of veterans serving beyond the uniform with Veteran Voices. I was on active duty, I realized, Scott, I hit my 14 year mark. Can’t believe it. Um, but I’m still serving in the Reserves now. But again, just the, the people of Guam that have served, we’ve had soldiers from Guam who have had been killed in action. We have had soldiers who have fought in combat, combat veterans still living in Guam. So again, this is so much greater than just like this typhoon, but to be able to recognize Guam exists that we are part of the American people. And, uh, we’ve proudly served. So, again, just support the, support the, the people of Guam in our campaign. But thank you, Scott.

Scott Luton (38:54):

Thank you Mary Kate saliva with, uh, G H R I. And, uh, y’all check out the, uh, super typhoon Mair relief, uh, Mary Kate, we’ll see you again real soon. Take

Mary Kate Soliva (39:05):

Care, Bossi. Thank you,

Scott Luton (39:07):

Constantine. Uh, I’ll tell ya, Mary Kate is a very, uh, special leader, but in those cases, you just wanna reach out and fix stuff, you know what I mean? Yeah,

Constantine Limberakis (39:17):

Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, I mean, it’s folks like her, you have so much respect for, you know, the dedication. And then now when they’re saying, Hey, we are, we’re in a time of need, uh, raising awareness, right? And it’s an education, I think it’s just understanding what we’re paying attention to and what we value is important.

Scott Luton (39:35):

Yeah.

Constantine Limberakis (39:35):

And I, it’s great. It’s amazing what she’s been able to accomplish.

Scott Luton (39:38):

It is, it is remarkable. And, you know, guam’s interests are our interests and we’ve got to, um, gotta fix stuff over there and fix it faster to Mary Kate’s, uh, point and Sylvia and, and Sylvia, I hope I’m looking forward to connecting with you soon. So, Constantine, Sylvia, I believe, if she’s not already there, she’ll be there soon. Is, uh, gonna be back in Germany. And, uh, and Sylvia, if I’m letting the cat outta the bag, my apologies. But, um, uh, her father has spent, uh, I think his entire career in the ocean freight industry. Okay. And so we’re gonna get together with Sylvia and her father and hopefully share some stories from, I mean, if he hadn’t written a book, he needs to, I bet he has got, uh, lots and lots of stories. So, Sylvia, safe travels if you’re in Transits. I look forward to reconnecting soon. Um, okay, Constantine, we’ve got, uh, well give you a ch anything else you wanna add before we shift gears and talk about something that is, um, not nearly as important? Any of your final thoughts around, uh, what’s going on in Guam and, and what folks gotta do to help recover? I,

Constantine Limberakis (40:42):

I, I wish I did. I, I think part of me is just to also just get more educated, uh, a across, I guess all the territories, including Guam and just knowing what we, and how do we help, how do, how do we get involved? And, um, you know, I I I think it’s just a great opportunity and me using your platform to do this.

Scott Luton (41:01):

Agreed. So folks, check out, uh, the Guam Human Rights Initiative, uh, special initiative, um, special project for, uh, super Typhoon Mair Relief. Uh, you’ll be, uh, better off when you, when you do. Um, alright, so switching gears on a much, much lighter note, I wanna bring this graphic in. Cause we’re gonna be talking about automation, you know, on the front end, Constantine, uh, the, the stories really come together nicely. Cause we were talking about the need for, uh, automating on the front end end. And so this, that really teased this story up here. So, uh, neat Reed from cnbc, they interviewed Jeff Bernstein, I think I’ve got that right. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, president of the Association for Advancing Automation. Now, he might <laugh>, he might have certain allegiances there, uh, but they asked in his thoughts on what sectors automation might tackle next. So Jeff said his picks were three of them.

Scott Luton (41:57):

Agriculture, food processing, and healthcare. Now he points to a couple examples. Now, this will make my father-in-law, Fred Midkiff, uh, very happy and agriculture dear and company, you know, maker of the big brand successful, uh, industry leader, John Deere tractors. Well, they’re already developing an autonomous tractor, Constantine, how about that? So we may see, just like that image, we’re looking at a tractor moving and, and doing stuff. Whate, you know, tilling stuff, whatever, uh, with with no, no one, uh, at the wheel. Yeah. In food processing, we spoke some two years ago about how Tyson Foods was investing over a billion dollars in new automation technologies. Many other players in that industry are now, Tyson has 50 at this time, 50 fully automated lines right now for Deboning check-ins. And the interesting thing about that, uh, Dino, and get your take here is I’ve known for a long time, I’ve had some folks in that, uh, in that industry and that they all talked about just how dangerous it is, right? Uh, so a lot of this automation is helping to, uh, make some of the work safer, including for the folks that, that regardless of automation that still be a part of it and the yields, uh, increasing, you know, uh, yielding more good meat that is used and sold and you name it. But your, your thoughts, uh, Constantine and what we’re seeing from a what’s next for automation standpoint?

Constantine Limberakis (43:19):

Well, on the, on the farming front, um, I got a little bit of education about farming. Uh, I was watching the show on Prime, uh, Amazon Prime with Clarkson’s Farm. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Jeremy Clarkson, the guy he is famous for, uh, uh, for the British automation show that he got, he got kicked off of <laugh>. He was talking about, um, uh, top gear. It was the show top

Scott Luton (43:44):

Gear

Constantine Limberakis (43:44):

He created. He created another show on Amazon Prime. But he, he, he went off and created his own farm. And the education around that is how expensive and how, how much it can cost to run a farm and you know, where the, where the profit margins are and what you need to do to maintain that. I don’t know if this is the agribusiness aspect or even it’s the personal and how this automation can even help the individual farmer, but it, it’s just amazing where, how can we create these efficiencies to create these higher yields, especially as with fr food production becoming such a critical thing, doing it a more efficiently, doing it more effectively. Um, and using autonomous vehicles for that to me is, is, is, is, is a great opportunity and it helps the farmer, I think in, in the, in the farms to be able to be more effective at what they’re doing.

Constantine Limberakis (44:33):

So that that farm part of it is, is cool. Yeah. And that the food, the food piece, what was interesting in reading the article is they were talking about, I didn’t even think about this, but when you’re in the line, people that might have food allergies that are working the line or sneezing or like, that you think about the health of the person working, where does that all kind of fall in? And this autonomous piece might be there. And also it’s just, I, I can’t imagine like what it would smell like in those things. I mean, it’s just some of those dynamics, uh, just takes away for from humans to have to interact with that and have ’em have other types of jobs that are like more value add, I guess.

Scott Luton (45:12):

Yeah. Well, plus the shifts that that’s going on out there in, in the workforce, right? Folks that, uh, where we were even five years ago, 10 years ago, more and more, uh, from the active generations that, uh, you know, companies are, are building a workforce around, they don’t wanna do a lot of that stuff. More and more. I mean, and it grows a little bit every day. Let me bring in, uh, Greg, Greg, great to have you here. I think he is in, one of his ventures is in the agriculture space. Greg says they’re developing a farm implement that will map out a field of crop plants and then spot fertilize the plant and laser blast the weeds. Man, that is cool. That reminds me, um, I’m gonna pull this image back up. Uh, this driverless tractor. Yes. You know, so peaches, you know, Georgia’s, Georgia has become synonymous for the peach industry, right? Constantine, do you, when you think of peaches, do you think of Georgia?

Constantine Limberakis (46:07):

Well, when you’re driving through Atlanta, every other street’s, peach Tree Peach, right? <laugh>,

Scott Luton (46:13):

Well, uh, did you know that South Carolina actually produces more peaches than the state of Georgia? Right? I

Constantine Limberakis (46:20):

Did not know.

Scott Luton (46:21):

And I need to look at probably, uh, the 2022 figures, but as of like 20 20, 20, 21. But you know, they’ve got, I think it’s with the peach industry, otherwise all that set up goes for not, but they’ve got, there’s machines these days that, you know, carefully will grab the tree and knows being used in, in other nut industries and it shakes. So a lot of the fruit will fall down and it’s easier to, um, it’s easier to gather, right? Yeah. For the workforce. So, um, that, that’s probably been around for decades. But that one of the first thoughts, and thank you, Sylvia, to my rescue, South Carolina has more peaches. Thank you. Uh, it’s official now, um, Sylvia has audited my claims and it is official. South Carolina produces more peaches. But Constantine, it’s, it’s, you know, based on, it’s kinda like going back to the battery deal, right?

Scott Luton (47:12):

We know the man is gonna be at least six, six x you know, from now until 2030. So companies obviously are gonna find a way to address it, right? Make money, run their operation. Similar challenge with workforces, right? We under, we know it’s getting tougher and tougher to, uh, find folks to do some of these tasks that, that, um, they don’t wanna do anymore. So naturally companies are gonna find a way using automation and other ways that the business will evolve to address that gap. Um, your final thoughts here around the ongoing tidal wave wave, it’s, it’s only getting bigger. Automation. Automation. Yeah. Well,

Constantine Limberakis (47:51):

One of the, the third part we didn’t talk about what I do. Oh,

Scott Luton (47:54):

Healthcare. Yeah. Yeah.

Constantine Limberakis (47:54):

The healthcare is, I saw an interesting aspect. There was, there was a call out of one of the companies that, I think it was called Aon, a robotics company. And, and what they’re doing is they’re implementing, they’re using the robots to then deliver, uh, the, you know, through the, through the, through the delivery system in the logistics of having it, you know, whatever the, the medicines or there’s other aspects of going to different parts of the hospital, maybe where it needs to be secured or more sanitary. And then I think this company’s also doing this in, I think in the, uh, in the, in the industry or around hoteling industry Yeah. Where they’re delivering like towels and things like that. But as it relates to healthcare, I think that’s just phenomenal, especially if you’re gonna be dealing with hazardous materials. Um, and again, it all goes back to the labor shortage.

Constantine Limberakis (48:44):

You know, we have a shortage of nurses, we have a shortage of technicians. Um, this is a great way to do it. And when I was looking at the machines that they use, it reminded me of my visit to Purdue at West LA in West Lafayette where, okay, we saw these things moving around delivering pizza. Well, I <laugh> very similar concept, right? I mean, you hear about this, but this is at that level where we’re now seeing this in the healthcare industry and this, this has so many use cases that it’s just phenomenal to see that this is, this is kind of being applied now in the hospital settings or other healthcare areas.

Scott Luton (49:19):

So I agree with you, of course the healthcare industry will be an interesting one to see how they embrace, especially the robotics thing that, that portion of the article for me, just for my brain, I’m a little bit slower than you are, uh, Dino <laugh>, but I didn’t see as much of a, like a instant, easy to understand, practical example. Um, but there will be undoubtedly. But going back to that pizza delivery, lemme just tell you and Luton household, maybe like your household limb Rocket’s household, were big fans of pizza. Yes, right? Big fans of pizza. But let’s make any bots that are delivering pizza, let’s make them very friendly looking, because some of those bots I’ve seen, you’re not gonna wanna open the door <laugh>, you know, especially if it’s not a drop, like was so prevalent during, during covid, right? Folks dropped on your, on your porch and then they were out. Maybe, you know, they can keep ’em mean looking if that’s what they’re gonna do. But I am not opening a door to some of those things that are delivering pizzas right now. What about, have you seen some of these? I mean, I mean, like, they look like they got blades. They’re like eight feet tall. Uh, they, they don’t have nice face features. I mean, it, it it’s terrifying

Constantine Limberakis (50:25):

Concentrating Tomi anthrop, the, the robot. Is that what you’re trying to do? Yes,

Scott Luton (50:31):

Yes.

Constantine Limberakis (50:32):

<laugh> I had not, I’d never had, I’ve never ordered it via that. I, again, I only saw that from the distance and my nephew pointed that out. He is like, Hey, listen. He’s like, uncle, he’s like, he calls me, he calls me Dino, and he goes, uncle Dino. He goes, look, that, that’s, uh, that, that’s, that’s a pizza. I’m like, and you see these things rolling around. I just thought it was fascinating. I, I don’t, I haven’t encountered that yet.

Scott Luton (50:54):

Mm.

Constantine Limberakis (50:54):

Maybe it’s the drones too, with the drone pizza. I don’t

Scott Luton (50:57):

Know. Yeah, it might be, it might be let, well, any, any robot, you know, full-blown humanoid looking robot, just delivering pizza to our front doors. We gotta, we gotta give them like a teddy boy teddy bear costume or something. And then, hey, all day long. Thank you very much. Nice tip. And we’ll be on our way.

Constantine Limberakis (51:13):

Let’s just not make it look too creepy. <laugh>,

Scott Luton (51:16):

No clowns. No clowns. Constant tea, <laugh>,

Constantine Limberakis (51:18):

No clowns. Uh, alright, all,

Scott Luton (51:21):

All right. This has been a lot of fun. A lot of fun on the news side, on, you know, on the series side, man. Again, folks, y’all, I’ll tell you, if, if you’re not in position, this will be my, my challenge to our listing audience wherever they are. Constantine is, hey, if you’re not in position to find a way to help, whether it’s via Mary Kate’s, uh, humanitarian, you know, really stand up overnight, uh, project, which I admire so much, uh, true bias for action. And there’s, there’s others, right? Uh, American Logistics Aid Network also comes to mind, a nonprofit doing great work, including support, um, uh, hurricanes and storms everywhere. But Constantine, I think the, the, the thing I’m glad came up today is a lack of awareness for what’s going on in Guam and the need and, and, uh, the, the recovery, as Mary Kate puts it, it needs to happen faster. So even if you can’t donate or anything, just get more informed. Seek out that news, seek out, um, what’s going on there and what needs to happen. Uh, Constantine, your thoughts here before we wrap?

Constantine Limberakis (52:22):

Yeah. Um, again, as I, I mentioned earlier on, on, on the show, it’s, it’s a great opportunity for us to leverage channels like this. And we talked about social media. I mean, that’s it, it’s a new way of getting the stories out and, you know, we’re not relying on traditional meets to do it. So I think it’s fantastic that you’re able to use this as a way to get the story out.

Scott Luton (52:41):

Agreed. So y’all check that out. Link one click away there. Uh, and make sure you connect with, uh, Mary Kate Saliva and the Guam Human Rights Initiative and, uh, veteran Voices Programming, which I think we’re gonna share that link. But hey, Constantine, beyond all of that, how can folks connect with you and all the cool things you’re up to?

Constantine Limberakis (52:58):

Well, I guess it’s the LinkedIn. So, you know, connect with me on LinkedIn. Some of the things I like to post out there, some of the articles, uh, always open for conversation and thoughts on innovation and what’s happening in in supply chains, uh, and procurement. And always happy to have a conversation.

Scott Luton (53:17):

We are too. I enjoy those conversations. Uh, so big thanks to first off, big thanks to Mary Kate Saliva for joining us on almost on a whim. Uh, especially as busy as, as, uh, she and, and all this stuff going on there. It’s a big thanks to Mary Kate Sliva. Big thanks to Constantine, Lynn Baraks for filling in for Greg White here today. Always a pleasure. You know, pleasure as well as on my side too. And folks, thank you. You know, everyone for showing up and dropping comments from Jose to, uh, Sylvia, Greg, uh, Jacob, you name it. Always enjoy that component of our supply chain, buzz Live streams. You can find us every Monday at 12 noon Eastern time. And if you’re listening to this, hey, come check us out real time and bring your p o v with you. So on behalf of our entire team here at Supply Chain now, hey, challenge you, Scott looting the whole team here, challenging you. Hey, put the need, put it in a headlock and do something with it. You know, it’s about deeds, not words. Help others out. Do good, give forward and be the change. And we’ll see you next time, right back here at Supply Chain now. Thanks everybody.

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