[00:00:38] Good morning and welcome to another edition, another very special episode of Supply Chain Now in Spanish. I’m your host, Enrique Álvarez, and today I have the pleasure of talking with someone who not only you know and we already know, but is very, very active in social media, in LinkedIn and in logistics. She is a person with a lot of experience, with a lot of determination and most of all with an incredible facility to make relationships with other people. Then I have the great honor of talking with my host coach from many of these shows. Sofia Rivas Let me bring Sofia here to tell us a little more about her life and get to know her a little better in person. Sofia How are you? How are you? Good morning to you.
[00:01:30] Hello, good morning, Enrique, very nice,
[00:01:33] Very, very good. And well, I’m super excited. I think we must have done this months and months ago. To have a talk and an interview only with you. As I mentioned before, you and I have had the pleasure of hosting and interviewing several other people. But then again, what could be better than meeting you? I think you have a very interesting professional career and well, I think there are a lot of people in logistics who know you in these months. Tell us a little more about yourself if you want to start there.
[00:02:11] Yes, of course. Well, first of all, it’s good that we finally agree on the agenda and
[00:02:17] I know you’ve been working hard these past few months.
[00:02:20] I don’t think the public knows how hard it was. The times that we change but then we finally aligned.
[00:02:29] Well, I’m sure we’ll talk a little bit about why that happened, too. And well, the good news contun with your new position and. And things that have happened in your life. But I do agree with you. I’m glad we finally agree.
[00:02:42] Yes, of course. Well, I’ll tell you a little bit about myself. I am. I was born raised and still live here in Guadalajara, Jalisco. It is one of the largest cities in Mexico. Which in the end is known for mariachi, tequila and everything else Mexican you can think of, which surely happened here. So, if anyone wants to visit, come and learn a little more about the culture here. I am an industrial engineer from Tecnológico de Monterrey. And well, when I was in Industrial Engineering, in the end I realized that I didn’t want to be totally into quality and continuous improvement, which I think are very important aspects. But I didn’t want to spend my whole life just doing that. So. Well, one way or another I discovered that in the end we are all in the supply chain and from the moment I heard that word I said I need to learn more about it, to know how it is eaten? Y. Well, I just started specializing in that and looking for opportunities in that area. In that other world than the fish. I think you think you’re going to find something more specific, but it’s not true. You come back on a river with lots and lots of springs and opportunities then, eh?
[00:04:28] But a very good match, I imagine, no? Very, very good complement. Your career, your trajectory. I think all of that will serve you and serves you where you are now.
[00:04:39] Yes, of course. I have always said that any engineer is good for everyone.
[00:04:47] I’m a mechanical engineer, so I agree with you 100%.
[00:04:52] But in the end I meet people from all kinds of careers and professional lives, from lawyers and doctors who are already in the minister’s office. But I think being an engineer gives you an advantage, it doesn’t help you.
[00:05:06] Okay, okay, okay, okay.
[00:05:08] In school they open your head. That’s how I feel so that you can understand very complex things and then what is not so complex becomes easier for you.
[00:05:20] OK? Hey, well, before we move on to Sofia’s professional career, tell us a little bit more about yourself as a person, what do you like to do something you remember an interesting moment in your childhood? This one in Guadalajara. You’re in Guadalajara, right? Yes, something that will remind you of the city, of your family, something that will maybe push you first to study engineering and then to look for this other kind of challenges in supply chain.
[00:05:49] Yes, of course. And well, I was always a very curious child. Maybe even strange we can say because I go Christmas, Christmas gifts. I didn’t ask for dolls, or stuffed animals, or carts, or simple things, I asked for very strange things like microscopes, drills and so on. What else did I ask for once? Things that my dads would stay there and
[00:06:19] A drill is very useful.
[00:06:22] If you really want that, it’s Christmas. And I do if I want to do em. I want to make desks and tables and structures. I wanted to build bridges. And then I want to analyze the insects in the garden and my parents.
[00:06:42] Very curious. So. In other words, nature and physics and mathematics attracted you since you were very young.
[00:06:49] Yeah, sure, I mean. In the end they gave me things like my joy, right? Because of course,
[00:06:53] Of course,
[00:06:54] I was a child and they couldn’t give me such an intense microscope. What if I no longer liked the investment and it was no longer good, huh? But I do think those things, those details, were there. It was really cool that they let me explore those areas and since I was very little there are some.
[00:07:18] Something that they said to you, hey, obviously your parents, both of them, both of them, they both encouraged in you that, that desire to know knowledge, to learn, to be curious, to explore the world, it’s something else that maybe they told you, maybe before you entered Tec, that what made you successful. And well, now you’ve been shaped the way you are today.
[00:07:42] I think my parents were always very habit-forming. And to be disciplined in those habits. And create healthy habits at the end. Then it was always a lot of. Well, learn to do your routine and have it kind of standardized so that when you change scenery you can take that same routine with you and be fine. Of course. And it’s a routine from eating breakfast, not always eating breakfast and never starting the day without minimum. A coffee on the head, right? So. O Well, yes. Those details I think are important in the end. When you get older and take on more responsibilities, it’s very easy to leave them or not keep them. So I think that’s something very valuable, that my parents were always pushing for us to adopt it, right? And more because from their experience, when they made that transition from school to work, they realized that it was vital to keep it.
[00:08:59] Of course. Good habits, as you say from the beginning, and I think having them gives you a competitive advantage against any other candidate. You don’t bring a good school. It looks good. So tell us about an industrial engineer, but with a passion more for the supply chain. And that’s where I interrupted you. But tell us then what else is going on? Are you still at Tec? You’re realizing that maybe you want to start moving more towards the supply chain and less towards the industrial engineering side, locality or materials, etcetera.
[00:09:34] Yes, I think that’s where it was. A good match or we can say it. Being in the right place, at the right time, that my career director at that moment says to me hey, we are having a lot of relationship with EMITI, right? And they are the supply chain experts here, which is something that. I don’t. I was totally unaware because I thought that maity was just like people who went into space and discovered new elements and cures for diseases centuries ago, so because that level of people I had in mind that came out of there. And I also had in mind that. That to go to the Manti you obviously had to be someone super super special and it was unattainable. No? And when they tell me that it’s already here, no, it’s close.
[00:10:45] Well, you’re someone super super special too. But you’re right. The conception we have of maity, at least in Mexico, is that they are NASA scientists working all day on 100 space rockets, etcetera.
[00:11:01] Chidi or croque. And also I think one sees it too far away. I don’t know. And you don’t and you don’t know about these kinds of opportunities that are already nearby. No? So, huh? I said averi? How? What’s up? What do I do?
[00:11:18] Who do I have to kill? Okay. Uh-huh.
[00:11:21] So it was really saying. Well, I apply and do the whole process and see what happens. I don’t think he. I’ve always said that the no you already have. In other words, the worst case scenario. Sure, it already exists, doesn’t it? And he’s even better, isn’t he? Then you can bet on that best case scenario. So. Eh? First, well yes, I applied and all that happened and then they told me it wasn’t if you got into the program for the supply certificate and I what?
[00:11:59] The program is called as others,
[00:12:01] Her name is Jessy Log gratuit Certificate and Logistics in her Panchi.
[00:12:09] Happy, well congratulations, because I imagine that there are and well, I know because we also interviewed a colleague from the maity that I imagine you’re going to mention now, but this has to be a very competitive program. So it’s an honor to be left, I guess.
[00:12:24] The truth is, it was a very good opportunity and also, I say to all those who listen to us if you want to apply, I totally recommend it and more because it is focused on people from Latin America, right? Then already and at least you resist a little bit and of course, the universe to apply then the opportunity or well, the chances that you want are already greater. So don’t be afraid of not dating, it doesn’t apply. And the truth. It is a. It is a very unique opportunity. And that gives you, it opens many doors for you afterwards. Then I think it’s totally worth it and. And if it’s true what they tell you at the beginning of the program that you won’t sleep? I don’t think so. Hahahahaha no! Well, I already had already brought a stalking according to me not from the stalking that I did not sleep either. But there if you don’t sleep at all. I’m a very, very, very, very good guy.
[00:13:33] As you say, at the end of the day, you’re going to miss all the shots you don’t take and you’re already guaranteed a no. So you don’t lose anything if someone isn’t listening, well, as Sofia says, no, you don’t lose anything. And I think as you say, if you’re going to tell us right now, it was an experience that really changed your professional career for the better, right?
[00:13:55] Yes, of course, West and outside of the knowledge you can get from the certificate program. I think that the relationships you make there, the people you meet and that in the end you know them and they know you, not in the end if they are going to remember you. At some point they were going to say ah, Tim and I met someone to pull it because we’re looking for someone else here on this side, so you can get opportunities like that. So I think that part of networking and. If you keep those ideas, those contacts are very special.
[00:14:39] Totally agree and well, how much we got the big news, you walked in and what happened? He counts things. What is the program like? What is it about? Who did you meet? What can you tell us a little bit about that experience so relevant for you and so important for your professional career?
[00:14:57] Yes, I think I describe the program as a compressed UMA capsule of the master’s degree. So, like a concentrated dose of the mastery that they have. What is it? Shorter in duration and that too, but it’s less time, but I think it’s more, you cover a lot of the information that you can learn in the master’s as well. So it’s like a bust
[00:15:32] And that’s why you don’t sleep from poverty,
[00:15:36] But you learn a lot in a short time and that’s interesting, isn’t it? And people from other places, from other Latin American countries. From people who have been in the industry for 10, 15 years to recent graduates. Then you have that mix of people who already have work experience and then candidates to have that experience. They don’t, I would replenish and give you face-to-face classes as well e.. Well, eminences like me. I do if Jeffy or Alexis Bateman. So I think those opportunities to meet them in person and have them give you classes stapa of what I say is a hybrid program and one part of it is girl and one part of it is face-to-face. Obviously I think the face-to-face is very. Enriching. And yet, well, well. The online link looks are very similar to those of Michael Master. If anyone has taken any y10 courses from there, I also recommend them, they are very good courses. And then nothing.
[00:16:56] Apply what? That some inventor, some mentor, something like that. If you had to sum up the three things that you learned and you already mentioned a little bit the networking and the contacts and the experience and. But well, I wanted you soon a little more. Some mentor in the program. And what did you learn from that person? And what did you learn from Sofia? Like. As an individual going through that experience?
[00:17:23] I think that well, someone who was always with us and well, me personally too, was our director Chris Mejia. I think he is someone who is always concerned that we always see the maximum. So it’s something I learned from him and another would be. I think something very special that I learned there was really learning how to ask good questions,
[00:17:52] What do you mean by that? Because I think it’s very important and I think it’s worth defining that part that you’re saying.
[00:18:01] I think sometimes we ask questions. In any context, and we do them without thinking that we are asking, right? Y. And then, as we say them, we said, we thought oh, no, I should have said this to be clearer. To give me the answer I am looking for. I haven’t. So, asking good questions makes you one already like I said, you don’t get good answers and 2. Make a better impression, both on the person you are asking and vice versa. It is not mutual, but it is very important to know how to ask questions. There are things that we must already contemplate, that we can find out apart, and there are things that at that moment is the only opportunity you will have to get an answer, because special and unique. Then that’s when. I learned the true meaning that if you don’t ask questions, if you don’t ask the right questions, you’re not going to get the information you need. Et cetera, so I guess that’s it.
[00:19:28] If you then have one to dare to ask, I don’t think so. And then, since, since you’re asking a lot of questions because practice ultimately makes perfect, since you ask questions and you dare to ask others how to ask them so that you not only have the answer you need, but you hear like how about asking good questions and asking them in the right way. You also make a much more meaningful connection with the other person and that also helps you to strengthen the relationship that at the end of the day, well, everything revolves around human relationships.
[00:20:02] Yeah, right, and in the end what you’re looking for is that you your question, it triggers a conversation climax, a binary answer say no, thank you, you’re not looking for there to be a reply and when Guus and you have to be aware that if there’s going to be a reply you have to be, but if you
[00:20:22] You must first have the following
[00:20:23] Nerla didn’t loot, it’s not going to be like ah, they already answered me and they’re asking me now my vivant. Thank you. That was just my question. Jose go ahead and hit it. And if you’ve already started that path or not? Excellent suggestion, grabbing the practice and go and see what sonle maybe I had to prepare more or or well how do I do so that the next time is better no?
[00:20:54] Because Jacq if, because you get that connection and it becomes a dialogue instead of a press conference when he just asks a question, that’s where you can really exchange information, experiences, learn, develop. I totally agree. Today we talked about you and me. We actually interviewed Josué Velázquez, who told me that at some point right now is when I do it. You meet him or her or start interacting with him or her. Right.
[00:21:23] Yes, I’m just saying, I met him a little earlier because I did a research project and he was one of the mentors and judges of the project. Then I met him and he just told me today he applied there he forced himself to not, is that I was already, already. See you around.
[00:21:45] When he told you to apply, you were already accepted.
[00:21:47] If I, the up to
[00:21:49] Always, you’re two, three steps ahead of everybody.
[00:21:52] We tried. Sometimes you can and sometimes you can’t. But if you see the opportunity to be able to be those steps ahead, take it and move forward. But. But then from there, that’s when I had classes, more classes with him and so on, right?
[00:22:12] Is there anything there? Tell us about your graduation from the program? Well, before that, is there anything you’d like to share? Apart from what you have already shared from the show and well, obviously you suggest it to everyone who is listening to us if they have the opportunity and we are going to put all the notes of the show in which Sofia also participated in the comments of this interview for you to see it, to review it. And well, obviously knowing Sofia, if you have any questions she will be very willing to answer anything else you want to share about your EMITI experience.
[00:22:47] Well, I think I’m going to leave it there because I’m going to make it a spoiler. So take it as a trailer for the series you’re going to live then. That’s how we left it.
[00:23:02] Perfect. What’s the difference? Then you’re done. And what’s next in your professional life?
[00:23:07] Well, just when. When he finished the. When I started going certified, I was. I just graduated from college and started that. One thing that I think is useful for all of us is to understand that. It’s important to have a route to where you want to go professionally and usually they tell you that you’ll have that route when you graduate, but sometimes it doesn’t happen, right? And if I’m completely honest, I didn’t have it and I said well, let’s see, I want to know if the route goes through the area that I live in, that I like, which is the supply chain. So. When the certificate is finished I say yes. But then. The way in which I thought things were going to move forward to be in that area, in that industry, in what I was passionate about, was not as fast or as fast as I would have liked. And it’s frustrating, because I think our generation is very used to immediacy and also because you’ve been told that since you were very young. That there are more opportunities than enough, easier than before, no? And I guess in the end you can’t trust those things, right? And say ah, yeah, yeah, I did everything I had to do. Obviously I’m going to get there, aren’t I?
[00:24:55] It is not little by little to do the first step and the second step and the steps open up.
[00:25:02] Yes, of course, but. But that’s just it. It is to continue giving effort, to continue giving time, to continue also in that self-knowledge of seeing exactly what it is that you like. And more because with so many options it sometimes overwhelms too much. Saying. Yeah, okay, this way.
[00:25:27] If we have too many options and more now that with technology, I think it opens the doors to study literally whatever you want, wherever you want, whenever you want. So if it has to be more difficult to see that story or that path. But hey, you went through it after all, you graduated from the devouring program to your career. And what was next for you?
[00:25:54] I started working in the airport industry. And as a financial data analyst? At the beginning they were operational and then I moved on to the financial part, which I also recommend over there that about all of us engineers that we get into that area, because I think in the end everything you have to translate it into finance and to say well, we’re going to save so much money or we’re going to spend so much more money, but to be able to sustain the results that you can have like. Well, in the area in which you work. No, in the end I think it’s important then. But while I was in that job, I kept looking for a way to connect. Where did you want to go? I don’t think so. In the end they always ask for experience in the classroom where you want to focus, but you don’t have it. So, how do I do? I want to get some experience, but he won’t let me work and
[00:27:08] Yes as
[00:27:09] Yes, like a vicious circle.
[00:27:11] Whether it’s the chicken or the egg, that if you don’t exactly give me the opportunity, I’m never going to have experience, but you’re requiring me to have experience and that happens to I imagine not a lot in the industry. I think a lot of the companies that are hiring these days want to have at least some experience, but if they don’t give the opportunity, you can’t. No one can have the experience.
[00:27:33] Yeah, and sometimes it’s like. Absurd, so D’s first rebellious frustas. I mean, I go in and I take the company and they ask you for 5 years of experience in emissary and you say. But why not, if you are? Not even as a basic level, no, you wouldn’t have that experience. I don’t know. But then, in my way of frustration, that’s what we’re going to call it. I said already. And I’m going to get experience in another way. I’m going to try it and I’m going to see what then literally what I did. And alive. It worked for me and I repeat to everyone. Different things work for you. If this works for you, go ahead and use it. It worked for me and I said Wow! I didn’t know it was going to work too. EM I literally googled. Community together as a community of supplicants, thus oji. Because I said I want to meet people who are in that, in that, in that area so they can tell me what they do, how they do it. Go and see where, that is, what area or what specific work. I like it.
[00:28:58] This is where. This is where all those microscopes and drills and stuff your parents gave you when you were a kid pays off. No, Vanessa, that desire of yours is not going to stay with your hands folded. I’m going to do something I do? Well, I don’t know. I do a Google Search and then see what I do. And then you put supply chain community.
[00:29:19] And the first thing that comes out because they’re giants and they do things every day is Supply Chain Now. So I said what is that? I bit him and found out they were on LinkedIn. I said hijole, I actually opened my LinkedIn to apply and send my CV. Oh, right, work. No, no, no, no, I never hit him, huh. I never understood at the beginning that no, that’s not what LinkedIn is for. LinkedIn is for meeting people and connecting with them professionally. That’s it. It is creating community.
[00:30:08] Create a community. I have to interrupt you there because I mean, you and I are talking right now after several interviews together so because of that, because you did a Google Search and you communicated first with Supli Cheyney and then you used Linguini, you understood that the link was to create communities that honestly I had learned a lot. That from you too and the way you proactively use link has then. What did you do next?
[00:30:38] Ah, so I started listening to one podcast, not all of them, because there’s like a million of them. Then it is impossible. I don’t know anyone who says I’ve caught up on the 8000 Supply Chain Now podcasts, do I? I don’t know anyone. If someone listening to us has already done it, tell me how? Ah, but hey. I was usually like let’s do random, let’s take one and put it on my commute, from here to work, from here to the supermarket. Isn’t it? So. So and another was good, to see what courses there are, that expensive there are. Of course, and to continue learning, to continue, to continue knowing. For that all this happened to me in the pandemic not locked up in my house, in total quarantine. So I said pus time is there, right? To go about dedicating it, to go about investigating then. And then online events became very fashionable. And I said come on, let’s go to each other. AM. That’s how I met Supply Chain Revolution with Jerry Heini. I started going on Saturdays to some events called Brunch Brunch on line and you’re really with the supli 5in talking about a particular topic. Saturdays at 2pm. Tanned, isn’t it? And what do I know, this was Payán. I mean, maybe it’s my side, huh? How do you know I like that sort of thing. And so it was. No. So. I started going to events and I started going to events myself. I really said well, let’s see what I learned from the event and share it.
[00:32:39] I’m not saying and if you were asking very good questions also based on what you said before, I think your way of preparing in a way had good questions.
[00:32:50] You participated and asked questions by opening my microphone. Nothing that leaves the message today. There was no opportunity to open the microphone. I raise my hand and do it.
[00:33:03] But you’re an extrovert, I imagine. Or well, you like it. I mean, it’s not easy to be in front of a camera. Maybe after the pandemic we all kind of are or were forced to be in front of their humi, to talk and have a microphone in front of us. But you’ve always liked it. I mean, you were the typical girl who would stop the shows and the dances and
[00:33:25] Well, from D.. First I danced ballet since I was a child, from the age of 4 until I was 20 years old.
[00:33:37] You were used to you then, but you are used to the self and the public, don’t you feel embarrassed just to talk?
[00:33:45] It was hard for me because I was very conscious. And yes, if I managed to do it and everything, I just turned the color of El Tomate, then it was very funny because maybe you couldn’t tell I was nervous or that my words were slurred, and yes, but I was red, almost red, totally. And yet. Are you ok? Are you breathing? And me. Tubby. But. Purple. No? So. And well, there you go little by little and. Gaining confidence. But it’s just a matter of practice. To cheer you up and cheer you up again. And sometimes, sometimes you’re going to make a fool of yourself.
[00:34:34] If you water it a thousand times. Haha, no way,
[00:34:39] But no way. That’s life. No way. They try again without fear. So. What was he on about online events?
[00:34:50] Didn’t you start participating? And increasingly you updated your LinkedIn page? I mean, based on what you’ve done on LinkedIn, I think if we were to follow in your footsteps, I think everybody would have not only a lot more connections, but really important connections that have helped you even professionally very valuable.
[00:35:12] The joke is just that, not finding courage. And I think that to find value you have to give value, don’t you? You have to understand that you have to give your time. That you are going to is to give too. Not just receive e. That’s, I think that’s key, because a lot of people think that they can just come in and ask for something, not send you an invitation and ask for something directly. And I don’t think so! I think you have to create the space for them to decay, to give you something.
[00:35:56] If, as when you say you have to give you too first and your time, that’s not it. Hey, I know, he’s a friend of the friend, you know. Hey, I’d love for you to be my client, wouldn’t you? I mean, it doesn’t work like that. It is to generate creating the community, as you say. And once you have a relationship, well, there will be those talks, but it is not the objective.
[00:36:14] Directly your goal should not be to sell. They already found a job, they already got a new client or I don’t know, they give you something, some free product, right? Your goal should be to really get to know that person and have them get to know you. So I really and naively, genuinely said well, the event is over. I liked it. I share what I learned and talk to that person. I said izas, that I busby your event I liked it, I want to talk to you. You beat a zum like that, so was I and then my parents that today Sofia and it’s not weird that you talk to people hahaha that obviously one understands the concern of their parents, no? Old me no more. But they are. They are people who work at Marz, who work at. At I don’t know, at Vector Logistics, who works at Supply Chain Naw, who’s in the Boeing and airplane industry and they make airplanes or they live in Kenya and they’re with a project to bring fresh produce to remote communities. No or not? In other words. So I started to meet people from different countries, with different projects, with different goals and who also all, all in common are in search of finding themselves. And find their place in the world. Can’t you see that you don’t? It is not already signed, it is not already. Static. They’re always looking for the next thing, aren’t they? And it’s just that. Well, it’s not fair to me. Those people I want to surround myself with. Of course, of course. They are not people that you learn with and you know that
[00:38:28] Well, and you grew up. At the end of the day, with your attitude and those who aren’t listening, and those who aren’t watching, and those who know Sofia, who is much more famous than I am, by the way. But you will know that everything you are saying is not only genuine, but it really is, because the recipe for meeting people all over the world and growing and it gave a lot of results. I mean, at the end of the day you met people from many places and you started to participate not only more actively, but at some point. Me. I saw that they were starting to invite you now. I mean, you’re the one now. Tell us a little bit more, so that transition from being like the participant in the shows and the podcasts and making her the main character at the end of the day.
[00:39:14] As obviously one didn’t happen overnight, it didn’t happen like that to a full week to become having daily. That’s what I was posting for, not for the likes. No, really, for me that is. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. Sometimes they turn out very well. Sometimes they don’t work out. No one sees them. But that’s not why I’m going to wear myself out and say oh, no! No one listened to him anymore. I don’t post anymore. No, no, no, no, that’s not it. It is sharing what you are interested in, what you think will bring value to the community and sometimes you will be successful. Sometimes not, but it’s being consistent. No? So, um. It was me too. I mean, it was meeting at least every week with someone new and talking. I’ve met at least three people during the week and they weren’t 5 minute conversations, 10 minute conversations, they were 45 minute conversations, an hour, no? So obviously it’s your time, of course, obviously it’s being there and it’s being attentive. It’s nothing more like, I’m going to wait until he finishes talking to me about everything he has to tell me before I ask him for what I want. Well, no, no, I did it because I wanted to learn about God, not what I was told by every parent who talks. Besides, it was cool, because since we were all locked up, we shared that same kind of anxiety of being.
[00:40:53] If that connection doesn’t want to connect you with other people, you’re already on a computer, on a screen
[00:41:00] Yes, since you are 24 hours this osea 24 if on the screen is great not to distract you a little work or whatever you do, with talking to people and meet them and know what they do and see things they have in common with you.
[00:41:18] No Sofia moving sorry not forward.
[00:41:23] There was nothing at the end. I think, I think the first person who told me. It was the ones from Freight Paz, they have some. Well yes, an application, a solution for transportation, transportation vehicles in the United States and for monitoring units and so on. They contacted me and said hey, there’s a Sofia, we have a podcast. And we want to invite you to talk. I one said to me hahaha, no! Then I said no? Well, yes, they are telling me, aren’t they? And that we want to talk. I mean, we want to interview you. We want to talk about this issue. No? And I said let’s see, I’m not an expert on that subject. It’s not that one will have doubt towards yourself, but then you say well, let’s see. Why are they looking for me? If I’m able to talk about that subject, I mean you also have to be honest with yourself and say if it’s clear than if it’s not, and trust and regain the confidence to say I’m not going to doubt myself. I’m going to sit down and of course I am. Mommy is not going to be the best podcast that people listen to because it’s the first time you’ve done it. But. It is from. Come on, let’s go. So. And so I did, and I said yes, of course I did. We recorded it and it went well and we talked. I mean I think they’re catching on. I like to practice well then, so does Enrique. In my defense is the prede this episode. We were practicing everything then too, eh? Well, nothing. So it was and I think just before that, Supply Chain hadn’t posted as they sent me a screenshot.
[00:43:33] If this is your number one fan. You also have a lot of fans in Supply Chain, don’t you? And in fact Scott is the one who put you, you and me in touch.
[00:43:44] I’m also a number one fan of his plaisir, I don’t say, he does a lot of things all the time because of that, because of what he draws.
[00:43:54] Huahua then contacted you? Well, you started participating in the two life blicas and stuff.
[00:44:01] Religiously every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. No andava, but yes and just one day. Eh? They posted something like Supli Cheyne, Insiders, Sofia Arribas and a brief description that today she’s already doing this and she’s super into getting to know and blah blah blah. And I was like. Because besides I had not seen that publication, right?
[00:44:34] So whatever they named you after you,
[00:44:36] No, not even no, there was no labeling or anything. And a colleague sent me, Sofia sent me. It’s coming out here, isn’t it? Wow! And I said Wow! What’s up? I almost, almost printed it out and framed it. It draws more than because I don’t have a printer, but this one did say how cool that this comes out no?
[00:45:01] Sofia So you weren’t saying a little bit about the way you’ve grown up in Ling-Ling in particular? All the connections you’ve had to the point where not only were you participating in a lot of the events on a regular basis, but now you’re starting to be the one they invite and you’ve made one. So a very, very good, very productive, very efficient community around you and your expertise. Like we said, we can keep talking to you for a couple of hours. But I think what we can do is have one more episode. And maybe you could tell us a little bit more in detail about Linkin’s part of the strategy. But if you want to, tell us a little bit more about if you want to about your connection to close the LinkedIn and the social part and what you’re doing right now. What is your vision for the future? And if you want to leave something with a challenge there for the audience, for the people who listen to us and especially the people who follow you and then we’ll take another call to follow up on this interesting talk.
[00:46:03] Yes, of course. Well, I think in summary, I think opportunities started to come up. That I want to recommend you are, well, to participate, no? And to share experience and to be present at different events, right? And obviously, you have to prepare yourself. You have to at some point I started to say yes to a lot of things and then I said hey, let’s see, I guess I can’t say yes to everything either. I have a hard time saying no. I almost always say yes, but sometimes you realize that if the day doesn’t have 42 hours, but only 24, then you can’t be in everything even if you wanted to, right? Of course, then you start to be a bit selective and say well, this time I’m not going to say no, but well, next time I’ll say yes. And then nothing. I’ve always been kind of a sharer. Then they ask me if when you make connections and make those kinds of relationships, you remember the people who are also active like you, don’t you? So, uh, when I’ve been asked Hey, don’t you have a recommendation for someone? I remember the first person. I see that Shinhwa is also here. Then I say I’m going to name the first one I have above, which is Davia Patea, who just came out in a Lyceum too and I said wow, how cool isn’t it? So father who is also cheering up. And I’m also a lot about encouraging people of my generation and my age or younger, because I see that there is a space that we can take advantage of, right? Sure, youth in this kind of events
[00:48:06] And logistics in general needs people, in other words, we need talent. I think with all the challenges that we’ve seen, one of the things that we also maybe haven’t talked about enough is the lack of talent in the industry, not in this industry and in many others. Then keep doing that. I think logistics companies all over the world need people like you and people who are committed and proactive, and with that sense of making community and long-term relationships or not, just being transactional or wanting to sell or seeing the profit that can be for you, but getting to know each other as human beings.
[00:48:46] Yes, that’s right. I think technology gives us the opportunity to connect and to realize that it exists, that what’s fair. Maybe you don’t see the talent, but it does exist, it’s just in another country, isn’t it? Or is in another city. I don’t know. Or it is. IMPOTENCIES?
[00:49:08] No, not at all. Totally agree with create. Hey, well, tell us quickly, because I know we’re running out of time. But what are you doing now? And if you want, close the program. At the end of the day you are the hostess as much as I am. So it is.
[00:49:26] Yes, of course. Well, I currently work at Mercado Libre. I’ve been there for three months. And I work in Mexico with the Guadalajara and Monterrey distribution centers, calculating the need for operational personnel to meet demand, he predicted.
[00:49:56] Wow! That at this time I was told that everything you said is almost impossible. Such predicted demand. What does this mean? I think the pandemic has already come to destroy all those technological models of dementia. Of forecasting demand and. Personal are quite a challenge, yes.
[00:50:18] And over there, for those who do not know what Mercado Libre is, it is a company of Ikoma, which sells everything. Oseja. He sells everything from everywhere. It started as a platform that connected a seller with a buyer. And now no, that’s all, but now we have official stores, we have, that is, we always seek to formalize trade and invite all those who want to join this, to train. Sell your products. And now we give the service of. I’ll handle you. Your merchandise. Your inventory. I prepare it and I make it for you. The final delivery to your customer, which is this part of the market. Shipping where I am. So, huh? It’s complicated, yes, because e-commerce can be has a lot of variation, customer behavior is never the same. Obviously the forcas here RE6 is always a complicated thing to say. Yes. If tomorrow we’re going to sell ten pieces and sometimes we sell 15 and sometimes we sell five. Of course. How do we prepare for that 15 or 5 scenario? No? And if we are calculating how many people we need to achieve those 15, 10 or 5? It’s also complicated because in the end. Are you calculating people? Not equipment, not machines, they are people who can’t be told overnight. You know what? Are we going to do overtime or you know what? Eh? I’m changing your shift. No? For they are people with their own life and their own side and their own world as well. So? Well, if it’s a job. It was intense, intense. I learn every day. It is a company that is always in continuous beta, that has a hunger to grow and to be the best. So I think today everyone is focused on giving it their all and. For things to go well.
[00:52:50] It doesn’t sound like a big company and I know it as a customer rather than a supply chain professional. But well, considering that you’re there as part of their team, I imagine it’s a company with not only a lot of potential, but a very good work culture. And well, they must be lucky to have you and lucky to keep growing. I think it is a business model for many companies in the world and in Latin America.
[00:53:19] Yes, of course. Also, as I was saying to other people, I think it gives a lot of pride that it’s from Latin America and that it is and that it has that level of impact. So. Well, nothing, it gives a lot of pride to work there and obviously, one also seeks to continue to grow and continue. Maybe not
[00:53:43] Sofia, I know that as I was saying we can continue talking and I think we are going to do it on the air and here in front of everyone, I will commit you to give us more time in the coming weeks to interview you again and have a second part of this very interesting conversation with you. I thank you for your proactivity, your very genuine attitude of relationship building. You were the one who emailed me as well as told you about the intimacy after Scott set us up. And well, it’s nice to have you as a hostess. We’re also going to start interviewing more people now, as we’re running out of podcast inventory for Supply Chain Navo in Spanish. But well, it’s a pleasure to share with you this talk. We wish you every success and obviously you have my full support and that of my company and that of Supply Chain A.
[00:54:39] No, thank you very much. Of course we do, we make more time.
[00:54:45] How can people get in touch with you? And the last thing? Any challenge you would like to give to the people who listen to us and who say goodbye to the program?
[00:54:56] Of course you can find it in. Obviously on LinkedIn, Â I promise you that if you follow me you will see in your FIB a lot of you have made such a post. But hey, hey, if you’re interested, check it out. Otherwise, no, I don’t get Witter or anything and they can always send me messages over there. I think I see it sometimes more than any other social network. Then I answer them and you can also look me up on Instagram I created an account. Her name is Sofi. Visible, pre-existed at times? No, I’m not serious. So that’s why it’s like a cillo joke. And there I also share the things I share on LinkedIn, but on Instagram. Why did I do that? Because I think you still have to attract people to LinkedIn, younger people still, kind of prefer other social networks to that. And I think that in the end that transition has to happen in order to continue with your professional life, right? And then nothing. I’ll leave my email address there too, you can just send me an email and that’s it. Those are the three places where you can find me. And well, thank you very much to all of you who listen to us and to those who are already fans of Supply Chain or in Spanish. And I think there’s also an opportunity here that if you have an interesting story, you have something to share. Of course we’ll get in touch and interview her, won’t we? Enrique I think
[00:56:38] That’s a good idea. If you have, if you want to share something with us, please look for Sofia or me. It would give us great pleasure to interview them, share their story, their experience and well, if you like talks like the one we had today with Sofia Rivas, then be sure to subscribe to Supply Chain Now Supply Chain in Spanish and listen to us on any platform where you listen to their podcast. Sofi, thank you very much. We’ll be in touch, have a nice day and again thanks for giving us some time.
[00:57:17] But thanks to you too, Enrique. Good morning.
[00:57:21] Good morning.
[00:57:22] Bye
