Dial P for Procurement
Episode 57

This story is not over - not by a long shot.

- Kelly Barner

Episode Summary

In 2022, we saw more than our fair share of high profile strikes. There were the Canadian truckers and the South Korean truckers (who actually went on strike twice). we saw longshoremen and dock workers walk off the job in Long Beach, California. Even the New York Times newsroom employees went on strike.

The (almost) railway workers strike was the most dramatic and the most educational of them all. It was on again, off again, and then on again and off again. It also taught us a lot about all of the players and stakeholder groups that get involved in these matters.

In this Dial P updated classic, host Kelly Barner brings the story up to date and manages to avoid saying, “I told you so.”

– What was the tipping point that led to the federal government getting involved?

– What was the major sticking point that led some of the largest unions voting down the approved agreement?

– What is next for the railway industry and its labor force?

Episode Transcript

Intro/Outro (00:01):

Welcome to Dial P for procurement. A show focused on today’s biggest spin supplier and contract management related business opportunities. Dial P investigates the nuanced and constantly evolving boundary of the procurement supply chain divide with a broadcast of engaged executives, providers, and thought leaders. Give us an hour and we’ll provide you with a new perspective on supply chain value. And now it’s time to dial P for procurement.

Kelly Barner (00:31):

When I think about our supply chains, I think about trucks. I think about containerships, I think about warehouses, even air freight. And while I know logically that rail transport is part of the supply chain, it just isn’t the first thing that comes to mind when the potential for a rail worker strike hit the news a couple of weeks ago. I think a lot of us suddenly became aware of how important they are both logistically and economically speaking. For instance, according to the Wall Street Journal, 28% of US freight moves via the rail network, second only to trucking at 40%. Now interestingly, the trucking industry is freight rail’s largest customer. So they’re working together a lot more than we realize. According to the Association of American Railroads, about 467,000 additional long haul trucks per day would’ve been needed to handle the redirected freight that is currently carried by rail.

Kelly Barner (01:37):

And what would the cost of that be? Will the US Chamber of Commerce estimated that a shutdown of the nation’s rail service would cost the economy over 2 billion per day as long as the strike lasted? When Labor Secretary Marty Walsh, who’s from Boston like me, you can probably tell from his accent actually locally, we call him ma. When Ma Walsh announced on September 15th that a tentative agreement had been reached, everyone gave a sigh of relief after all a strike was set to begin the next day. And that is the last thing anyone needs. But I have to ask, is it really over in this episode of Dial Pay, I’m going to review what the rail worker unions want from their new contracts, the final terms and conditions of the pending agreement, what the process of ratifying that agreement looks like from here, and what all of us learned from news coverage of the strike, including whether there will be future implications from this new agreement.

Kelly Barner (02:44):

But before I go any further, let me pause and introduce myself. I’m Kelly Barner. I’m the co-founder and managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point. I’m a partner at Art of Procurement and I’m your host for Dial P for procurement here on supply Chain. Now I’m constantly scanning the news for complex stories to discuss things that are interesting but may contain a surprise or escape notice. I also follow these stories beyond the headlines, which is something we’re going to do today. And I stay on top of these stories until they go cold or reach a resolution. We release a new episode or interview on Dial P every Thursday. So subscribe and be on the lookout for future episodes. And don’t forget to check out some of the past topics we’ve covered as well. Now before we get back to the railway strike, I have a quick favor to ask.

Kelly Barner (03:39):

I truly hope you find value in the time we’re about to spend together. And if you do, here’s what I ask. Find a way to engage that works for you. We have listeners on all kinds of platforms, so give us a review on iTunes, offer up some stars on another podcast platform, share the post where you found this or give us a like or a comment on LinkedIn or Twitter. You can even send this link directly to a colleague that you think should hear it. I’m grateful for your interest and attention, and please don’t hesitate to reach out if you have an idea for a future episode of Dial Paid. All right, back to the railway strike. What was really at stake here? What was it that the rail workers unions were looking for? Well, there are 115,000 unionized railway workers in the US and they have been working for years without an active contract as disputes between the unions and the companies have dragged on.

Kelly Barner (04:41):

In this particular round of negotiations, six of the largest rail carriers, including the companies that are considered the big three bnsf, Union Pacific and csx, were all at the table as were 12 unions. The key issues involved, wages, attendance, policies, sick time and scheduling. Now, labor has steadily been declining in rail as technology and cost cutting measures have been implemented. I was really surprised by some of these figures that I uncovered in preparing for today’s episode. For instance, the railroad industry has slashed almost 30% of its workforce over the last six years. In 1970, there were 600,000 rail workers, and today there are around 150,000, although not all of them are unionized. This reduction in labor pool is one source of the strain that’s being placed on these workers. Simply speaking, it’s making it very hard for them to get days off. They are on call at all times and often receive very short notice that they need to report to work, which is where those attendance policies come into play.

Kelly Barner (05:59):

So the final terms and conditions of the agreement involve voluntary assigned days off, an additional paid day off, the ability for workers to take time off for routine doctor’s appointments without being penalized, not having any loss of attendance points for hospitalizations or surgical procedures. And of course the money is important here. The biggest wage increase in more than four decades, they’ll be scaled up 24% between now and 2024. 14% of that hits immediately. And there will also be an assignment of thousand dollars annual bonuses over five years. There will be no increases to healthcare copays and deductibles, and all of these changes will bring the average railroad workers pay to $110,000 a year by 2024. So here’s where we dig beyond the headlines, because we all gave such a sigh of relief, but the union members have not yet ratified the agreement. And although there was a lovely ceremony in the White House Rose Garden, this is not over by a long shot.

Kelly Barner (07:12):

All of these union members across the country have to ratify the agreement, and the process may stretch into November, especially when you include the time required for all of the different unions to vote and for those votes to be counted and reported. Now, if it were even that simple, I still probably wouldn’t be covering this story. So you know, there has to be more to it. For one thing, there are two sets of potential agreements on the table. There’s the contract proposed by the rail carriers and then there are the terms proposed by the Presidential Emergency Board or p b. So there’s the offer from the railways, and then there’s sort of this somewhat objective mediated middle ground provided as an alternative, a survey of rail workers at the Smart Transportation division, which is one of the largest rail related unions in the US, found that nearly eight in 10 members would have voted to reject the carrier proposed contract.

Kelly Barner (08:15):

The grassroots group railroad Workers Union found that more than nine out of 10 railroad workers would vote to reject the p b recommendations and go on strike instead. So large groups have sort of tentative sense, almost like polling data that indicate their members are not going to vote to ratify of the two. The p b guidance, which all of the unions accept, the two biggest have agreed to is considered less worker friendly. So now we need to figure out why was the announcement made that the strike had been averted? And are the folks negotiating on behalf of the union leadership thinking in the same place that the individual workers are? There’s a huge question, and this is part of why the member votes stretch out into mid-November. Some of the groups where we’re hearing rumblings that the members may not vote to ratify have pushed those votes out maybe to give a little bit of time for discussion, consideration, uh, and potentially trying to bring people into agreement.

Kelly Barner (09:18):

So the guidance from the PEB is not actually an agreement on the table. It’s more like advice from a mediator. So as advantageous as all of these concessions to the workers sound, neither proposed agreement is being received particularly warmly. Here’s an example of how they differ. The union members wanted raises of 31% over the course of the next five years. The railroads offered 17 and the p b recommended 22. So you’ve got this range from 17% to 31% that are all being talked about. And yet, from what I’ve read from multiple sources, the union members actually seem less concerned about the money than they are the benefits. Apparently they believe that their salaries can be worked out, but the benefit terms and attendance policies that are being enforced very rigidly are making it incredibly difficult personally for them to hold these jobs. Now, the ink on all of these agreements and recommendations and proposals wasn’t dry before voices of discontent started to emerge, and some of them are pretty colorful.

Kelly Barner (10:31):

So as was reported in the Hill, quote, Ron Cameron Cow, an organizer at Railroad Workers United, which represents rank and file railroaders said that there’s a lot of anger, confusion, and hostility towards the new agreement which many workers feel is intentionally vague. That same article quotes an engineer from Norfolk Southern who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation. Quote, workers are off and this time we actually have a lot of leverage. I know I’m not going to accept anything less than what we deserve. So the current agreement with the carriers actually only covers the two largest unions Of the 12, it covers the smart transportation division and the brotherhood of locomotive engineers and trainmen, one of the smaller unions, the 5,000 members of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers has already voted to reject the p b guidance and authorize a strike.

Kelly Barner (11:37):

It has plans to resume negotiations and hold off until, at least at the time they were talking about it publicly, the end of September. We’ve obviously made it past that. And so their vote is an example of one that’s been pushed out. It’s currently scheduled to to take place no later than November 20th. So they’re sort of inching all of these votes forward, trying to build consensus around the agreement, increasing the pressure on everyone is the fact that Congress has all kinds of ideas about how they can head off a strike. I think everyone, including Congress is hoping that does not become necessary because if there is a strike, it’s more than just the freight capacity that will be needed or the cost to the economy. It’s also about moving people. There will be significant interruptions in Amtrak service. This rail agreement doesn’t just include freight.

Kelly Barner (12:34):

And then if we look at a few specific things, typically shipped by rail, the big one that comes up is crude oil. 300,000 barrels of crude oil are shipped by rail every day, and this has a ripple effect. Refineries might have to slow production if deliveries of crude oil are delayed according to the American fuel and petrochemical manufacturers. This in turn moving through the supply chain could lead to shortages of gasoline and diesel fuel in some places, including the Northeast. Automotive is worried new car deliveries would be affected since most of them travel by either dock or rail. And of course, the big concern food. Food may take a hit if rail because it is the primary transportation method for a third of all grain and fertilizer is disrupted. So we know it’s going to be inconvenient, expensive, even worrisome, especially as we get into the winter months.

Kelly Barner (13:34):

But there’s been a lot we’ve been able to learn from this, including what might be the future implications of a strike. And part of how we got to see this is as we got into that September 14th, September 15th and the strike was looming on the 16th, how did different railways adjust thinking that there might be an issue on the horizon? So in anticipation of the strike, Amtrak proactively canceled long run trips. If a strike started, they didn’t wanna have people getting stranded partway between their origin and destination points. Another big change was that railways stopped moving hazardous shipments that might otherwise have been stranded mid trip and create very real danger for the people living in those communities. So there’s not just the potential of the strike. There are all of the calculations going place as companies and rail rail providers make different decisions about hedging against the uncertainty.

Kelly Barner (14:36):

So what this shows us is that as much as we talk about supply chain risk and risk mitigation and plans to hedge all of this off, sometimes the cost of mitigation can be as disruptive as the disruption itself and nothing is over until it’s over. You can have as many rose garden ceremonies, and I do love to hear from my friend Marty Walsh, but until these railway workers sign on to one or more of these agreements, it hasn’t really been averted. It’s just been postponed. And the closer we get to the holiday season and the closer we get to cold weather, some of the implications of a disruption actually go up. So one of the other cautionary tales that I think comes out of this actually has nothing whatsoever to do with railways, with labor unions. It has more to do with how we read the news.

Kelly Barner (15:38):

If we’re not reading beyond the headlines, we’re missing the true implications of what’s actually being communicated to us. Those of us that work in supply chain have been inundated with coverage over the last two or three years, every single headline everywhere above the fold, supply chain, supply chain, supply chain. But if you just read the headline, you’re missing the information that’s going to advise the way you do your job. The information you start to monitor, the decisions you make, the timing for those decisions mean here it was trumpeted that the strike had been averted, but that’s rather temporary when you look into this whole ratification process. And I think what I find interesting is that the more that the voices pronouncing success have to win or lose from the situation, the more skeptical we need to be about just how close that is to the truth or whether we need to dig a little bit deeper.

Kelly Barner (16:37):

Clearly, this is a situation where there’s not only misalignment between the headlines and what’s actually happening. There may also be misalignment between those negotiating on behalf of the unions and the workers that they propose to represent. Now, that’s my point of view, and I can assure you that as we go through October and November, I will be keeping an eye on news stories, on ratification decisions. And just as interestingly on the scheduled dates for those votes, I think there’s gonna be some really interesting jockeying because I do agree with that engineer. They have some real leverage this time, and I think they’re planning to use it. Now, I’ve shared with you how I look at this story and how I’m planning to monitor it going forward, but I wanna hear from you. I always say, As much as I’m grateful that you listen, your job doesn’t stop there.

Kelly Barner (17:38):

Please become part of the conversation. Here’s a couple of questions. Are you surprised at the central role that rail freight plays in the supply chain? How might this affect shipments your company was planning? Do you have mitigation strategies in place? Is it possible for businesses to address the concerns of workers and consumers in the current environment where workers and cash flow are both in short supply? Do you think we’re in for more drama and fireworks? And has this maybe changed the way that you will read the news headlines or interpret just how done an agreement is? I don’t know, but please let me know. Until next time, I’m Kelly Barner and I’ve enjoyed spending this time with you. Thank you so much for your time, and on behalf of Dial P for procurement and supply chain now, I wish you a great rest of your day.

Intro/Outro (18:36):

Thank you for joining us for this episode of Dial P for procurement and for being an active part of the supply chain now community. Please check out all of our shows and events@supplychainnow.com. Make sure you follow Dial P four procurement on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook to catch all the latest programming details. We’ll see you soon for the next episode of Dial P four, Procurement.

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Jake Barr

Host

An acknowledged industry leader, Jake Barr now serves as CEO for BlueWorld Supply Chain Consulting, providing support to a cross section of Fortune 500 companies such as Cargill, Caterpillar, Colgate, Dow/Dupont, Firmenich, 3M, Merck, Bayer/Monsanto, Newell Brands, Kimberly Clark, Nestle, PepsiCo, Pfizer, Sanofi, Estee Lauder and Coty among others. He's also devoted time to engagements in public health sector work with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. At P&G, he managed the breakthrough delivery of an E2E (End to End) Planning Transformation effort, creating control towers which now manage the daily business globally. He is recognized as the architect for P&G’s demand driven supply chain strategy – referenced as a “Consumer Driven Supply Chain” transformation. Jake began his career with P&G in Finance in Risk Analysis and then moved into Operations. He has experience in building supply network capability globally through leadership assignments in Asia, Latin America, North America and the Middle East. He currently serves as a Research Associate for MIT; a member of Supply Chain Industry Advisory Council; Member of Gartner’s Supply Chain Think Tank; Consumer Goods “League of Leaders“; and a recipient of the 2015 - 2021 Supply Chain “Pro’s to Know” Award. He has been recognized as a University of Kentucky Fellow.

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Marcia Williams

Host

Marcia Williams, Managing Partner of USM Supply Chain, has 18 years of experience in Supply Chain, with expertise in optimizing Supply Chain-Finance Planning (S&OP/ IBP) at Large Fast-Growing CPGs for greater profitability and improved cash flows. Marcia has helped mid-sized and large companies including Lindt Chocolates, Hershey, and Coty. She holds an MBA from Michigan State University and a degree in Accounting from Universidad de la Republica, Uruguay (South America). Marcia is also a Forbes Council Contributor based out of New York, and author of the book series Supply Chains with Maria in storytelling style. A recent speaker’s engagement is Marcia TEDx Talk: TEDxMSU - How Supply Chain Impacts You: A Transformational Journey.

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Luisa Garcia

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Luisa Garcia is a passionate Marketer from Lagos de Moreno based in Aguascalientes. She holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from Universidad Autonoma de Aguascalientes, Mexico. She specializes in brand development at any stage, believing that a brand is more than just a name or image—it’s an unforgettable experience. Her expertise helps brands achieve their dreams and aspirations, making a lasting impact. Currently working at Vector Global Logistics in the Marketing team and as podcast coordinator of Logistics With Purpose®. Luisa believes that purpose-driven decisions will impact results that make a difference in the world.

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Astrid Aubert

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Astrid Aubert was born in Guadalajara, she is 39 years old and has had the opportunity to live in many places. She studied communication and her professional career has been in Trade Marketing for global companies such as Pepsico and Mars. She currently works as Marketing Director Mexico for Vector Global Logistics. She is responsible for internal communications and marketing strategy development for the logistics industry. She is a mother of two girls, married and lives in Monterrey. She defines herself as a creative and innovative person, and enjoys traveling and cooking a lot.

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Constantine Limberakis

Host

Constantine Limberakis is a thought leader in the area of procurement and supply management. He has over 20 years of international experience, playing strategic roles in a wide spectrum of organizations related to analyst advisory, consulting, product marketing, product development, and market research.Throughout his career, he's been passionate about engaging global business leaders and the broader analyst and technology community with strategic content, speaking engagements, podcasts, research, webinars, and industry articles.Constantine holds a BA in History from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and an MBA in Finance & Marketing / Masters in Public & International Affairs from the University of Pittsburgh.

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Scott W. Luton

Founder, CEO, & Host

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Greg White

Principal & Host

When rapid-growth technology companies, venture capital and private equity firms are looking for advisory, they call Greg – a founder, board director, advisor and catalyst of disruptive B2B technology and supply chain. An insightful visionary, Greg guides founders, investors and leadership teams in creating breakthroughs to gain market exposure and momentum – increasing overall company esteem and valuation.

Greg is a founder himself, creating Blue Ridge Solutions, a Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader in cloud-native supply chain applications, and bringing to market Curo, a field service management solution. He has also held leadership roles with Servigistics (PTC) and E3 Corporation (JDA/Blue Yonder). As a principal and host at Supply Chain Now, Greg helps guide the company’s strategic direction, hosts industry leader discussions, community livestreams, and all in addition to executive producing and hosting his original YouTube channel and podcast, TEChquila Sunrise.

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Chris Barnes

Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain is Boring

Talk about world-class: Chris is one of the few professionals in the world to hold CPIM-F, CLTD-F and CSCP-F designations from ASCM/APICS. He’s also the APICS coach – and our resident Supply Chain Doctor. When he’s not hosting programs with Supply Chain Now, he’s sharing supply chain knowledge on the APICS Coach Youtube channel or serving as a professional education instructor for the Georgia Tech Supply Chain & Logistic Institute’s Supply Chain Management (SCM) program and University of Tennessee-Chattanooga Center for Professional Education courses.

Chris earned a BS in Industrial Engineering from Bradley University, an MBA with emphasis in Industrial Psychology from the University of West Florida, and is a Doctoral in Supply Chain Management candidate.

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Tyler Ward

Director of Sales

Tyler Ward serves as Supply Chain Now's Director of Sales. Born and raised in Mid-Atlantic, Tyler is a proud graduate of Shippensburg University where he earned his degree in Communications. After college, he made his way to the beautiful state of Oregon, where he now lives with his wife and daughter.

With over a decade of experience in sales, Tyler has a proven track record of exceeding targets and leading high-performing teams. He credits his success to his ability to communicate effectively with customers and team members alike, as well as his strategic thinking and problem-solving skills.

When he's not closing deals, you can find Tyler on the links or cheering on his favorite football and basketball teams. He also enjoys spending time with his family, playing pick-up basketball, and traveling back to Ocean City, Maryland, his favorite place!

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Kevin L. Jackson

Host of Digital Transformers

Kevin L. Jackson is a globally recognized Thought Leader, Industry Influencer and Founder/Author of the award winning “Cloud Musings” blog.  He has also been recognized as a “Top 5G Influencer” (Onalytica 2019, Radar 2020), a “Top 50 Global Digital Transformation Thought Leader” (Thinkers 360 2019) and provides strategic consulting and integrated social media services to AT&T, Intel, Broadcom, Ericsson and other leading companies. Mr. Jackson’s commercial experience includes Vice President J.P. Morgan Chase, Worldwide Sales Executive for IBM and SAIC (Engility) Director Cloud Solutions. He has served on teams that have supported digital transformation projects for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the US Intelligence Community.  Kevin’s formal education includes a MS Computer Engineering from Naval Postgraduate School; MA National Security & Strategic Studies from Naval War College; and a BS Aerospace Engineering from the United States Naval Academy. Internationally recognizable firms that have sponsored articles authored by him include CiscoMicrosoft, Citrix and IBM.  Books include “Click to Transform” (Leaders Press, 2020), “Architecting Cloud Computing Solutions” (Packt, 2018), and “Practical Cloud Security: A Cross Industry View” (Taylor & Francis, 2016). He also delivers online training through Tulane UniversityO’Reilly MediaLinkedIn Learning, and Pluralsight.  Mr. Jackson retired from the U.S. Navy in 1994, earning specialties in Space Systems EngineeringCarrier Onboard Delivery Logistics and carrier-based Airborne Early Warning and Control. While active, he also served with the National Reconnaissance Office, Operational Support Office, providing tactical support to Navy and Marine Corps forces worldwide.

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Enrique Alvarez

Host of Logistics with Purpose and Supply Chain Now en Español

Enrique serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials, and Private Banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales, and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy, and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has an MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean, and he also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people, and spending time with his wife and two kids, Emma and Enrique.

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Kelly Barner

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Kelly is the Owner and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point and MyPurchasingCenter. She has been in procurement since 2003, starting as a practitioner and then as the Associate Director of Consulting at Emptoris. She has covered procurement news, events, publications, solutions, trends, and relevant economics at Buyers Meeting Point since 2009. Kelly is also the General Manager at Art of Procurement and Business Survey Chair for the ISM-New York Report on Business. Kelly has her MBA from Babson College as well as an MS in Library and Information Science from Simmons College and she has co-authored three books: ‘Supply Market Intelligence for Procurement Professionals’, ‘Procurement at a Crossroads’, and ‘Finance Unleashed’.

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Mary Kate Soliva

Host, Veteran Voices

Mary Kate Soliva is a veteran of the US Army and cofounder of the Guam Human Rights Initiative. She is currently in the Doctor of Criminal Justice program at Saint Leo University. She is passionate about combating human trafficking and has spent the last decade conducting training for military personnel and the local community.

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Amanda Luton

Vice President, Production

Amanda is a production and marketing veteran and entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and organizations including Von Maur, Anthropologie, AmericasMart Atlanta, and Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. Amanda currently manages, produces, and develops modern digital content for Supply Chain Now and their clients. Amanda has previously served as the VP of Information Systems and Webmaster on the Board of Directors for APICS Savannah, and founded and managed her own successful digital marketing firm, Magnolia Marketing Group. When she’s not leading the Supply Chain Now production team, you can find Amanda in the kitchen, reading, listening to podcasts, or enjoying time with family.

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Clay Phillips

Business Development Manager

Clay is passionate about two things: supply chain and the marketing that goes into it. Recently graduated with a degree in marketing at the University of Georgia, Clay got his start as a journalism major and inaugural member of the Owl’s football team at Kennesaw State University – but quickly saw tremendous opportunity in the Terry College of Business. He’s already putting his education to great use at Supply Chain Now, assisting with everything from sales and brand strategy to media production. Clay has contributed to initiatives such as our leap into video production, the guest blog series, and boosting social media presence, and after nearly two years in Supply Chain Now’s Marketing Department, Clay now heads up partnership and sales initiatives with the help of the rest of the Supply Chain Now sales team.

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Trisha Cordes

Administrative Assistant

Trisha is new to the supply chain industry – but not to podcasting. She’s an experienced podcast manager and virtual assistant who also happens to have 20 years of experience as an elementary school teacher. It’s safe to say, she’s passionate about helping people, and she lives out that passion every day with the Supply Chain Now team, contributing to scheduling and podcast production.

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Chantel King

Social Media Manager

My name is Chantel King and I am the Social Media Specialist at Supply Chain Now. My job is to make sure our audience is engaged and educated on the abundant amount of information the supply chain industry has to offer.

Social Media and Communications has been my niche ever since I graduated from college at The Academy of Art University in San Francisco. No, I am not a West Coast girl. I was born and raised in New Jersey, but my travel experience goes way beyond the garden state. My true passion is in creating editorial and graphic content that influences others to be great in whatever industry they are in. I’ve done this by working with lifestyle, financial, and editorial companies by providing resources to enhance their businesses.

Another passion of mine is trying new things. Whether it’s food, an activity, or a sport. I would like to say that I am an adventurous Taurus that never shies away from a new quest or challenge.

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Lori Sofian

Marketing Coordinator

Lori is currently completing a degree in marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing at the University of Georgia. When she’s not supporting the marketing efforts at Supply Chain Now, you can find her at music festivals – or working toward her dream goal of a fashion career. Lori is involved in many extracurricular activities and appreciates all the learning experiences UGA has brought her.

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Katherine Hintz

Director, Customer Experience

Katherine is a marketing professional and MBA candidate who strives to unite her love of people with a passion for positive experiences. Having a diverse background, which includes nonprofit work with digital marketing and start-ups, she serves as a leader who helps people live their most creative lives by cultivating community, order, collaboration, and respect. With equal parts creativity and analytics, she brings a unique skill set which fosters refining, problem solving, and connecting organizations with their true vision. In her free time, you can usually find her looking for her cup of coffee, playing with her puppy Charlie, and dreaming of her next road trip.

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Mary Kate Love

Chief of Staff & Host

Mary Kate Love is currently the VP of marketing at Supply Chain Now focused on brand strategy and audience + revenue growth. Mary Kate’s career is a testament to her versatility and innovative spirit: she has experience in start-ups, venture capital, and building innovation initiatives from the ground up: she previously helped lead the build-out of the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific and before that, MxD (Manufacturing times Digital): the Department of Defense’s digital manufacturing innovation center. Mary Kate has a passion for taking complicated ideas and turning them into reality: she was one of the first team members at MxD and the first team member at the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific.

Mary Kate dedicates her extra time to education and mentorship: she was one of the founding Board Members for Women Influence Chicago and led an initiative for a city-wide job shadow day for young women across Chicago tech companies and was previously on the Board of Directors at St. Laurence High School in Chicago, Young Irish Fellowship Board and the UN Committee for Women. Mary Kate is the founder of National Supply Chain Day and enjoys co-hosting podcasts at Supply Chain Now. Mary Kate is from the south side of Chicago, a mom of two baby boys, and an avid 16-inch softball player. She holds a BS in Political Science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

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Joshua Miranda

Marketing Specialist

Joshua is a student from Institute of Technology and Higher Education of Monterrey Campus Guadalajara in Communication and Digital Media. His experience ranges from Plug and Play México, DearDoc, and Nissan México creating unique social media marketing campaigns and graphics design. Joshua helps to amplify the voice of supply chain here at Supply Chain Now by assisting in graphic design, content creation, asset logistics, and more.  In his free time he likes to read and write short stories as well as watch movies and television series.

Donna Krache

Director of Communications and Executive Producer

Donna Krache is a former CNN executive producer who has won several awards in journalism and communication, including three Peabodys.  She has 30 years’ experience in broadcast and digital journalism. She led the first production team at CNN to convert its show to a digital platform. She has authored many articles for CNN and other media outlets. She taught digital journalism at Georgia State University and Arizona State University. Krache holds a bachelor’s degree in government from the College of William and Mary and a master’s degree in curriculum and instruction from the University of New Orleans. She is a serious sports fan who loves the Braves. She is president of the Dave Krache Foundation. Named in honor of her late husband, this non-profit pays fees for kids who want to play sports but whose parents are facing economic challenges.

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