Supply Chain Now
Episode 924

Since the invasion, we haven't been able to sell any grain at all. The price here is now half what it was before the war. There might be a food crisis in Europe and the world but it's gridlock here because we can't get this food out. We don't want to waste it. We know how important it is for the West, for Africa, for Asia. That's the fruit of our labour and people need it.

-Nadiya Stetsiuk, Farmer in the Cherkasy region of Ukraine (Source: BBC)

Episode Summary

Although no one expected it, the war in Ukraine is now approaching the end of its fourth month. Refugees continue to flee the country and calls for weaponry persist. President Zelenskyy and his leadership team are hanging tough, advocating for their citizens, and requesting as much military assistance as they can get from the rest of the world.

But now the war in Ukraine is starting to claim casualties on foreign shores… not in the form of refugees, but in a hunger crisis of global proportions.

Before the war, Ukraine was the 4th largest exporter of grain in the world. Now, 20 metric tonnes of grain are sitting in silos as hunger increases worldwide and the next crop not only has no place to go – if it can’t be sold, there won’t be funds to pay for next year’s harvest.

In this Dial P crossover podcast episode, Kelly Barner considers the diplomatic, humanitarian, and logistics issues that have to be overcome to get the grain out of Ukraine:

• Rail and sea options that all seem to have more negatives than positives

• Countries and organizations like the United Nations that are getting involved in an effort to stave off famines

• Bad actors in the region that the Western world may be tempted to deal with in order to prevent mass starvation

Episode Transcript

Intro/Outro (00:01):

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Kelly Barner (00:32):

By now. I think most of the world is familiar with the Ukrainian flag. When displayed correctly is a thick, horizontal band of blue over an equally sized band of gold. It represents the bright blue skies of Ukraine over its wide open fields of grain. Now, Ukraine, depending on the source that you look at is either the fourth or fifth largest exporter of grain in the world behind Russia, Canada, the United States and France. When you combine Ukraine’s exports with Russia’s, you get about 30% of the world’s wheat. One quarter of the world’s barley and three quarters of the world’s sunflower oil. Now this grain primarily goes to north Africa, the middle east and Asia, and it ends up in countries like Bangladesh, Egypt, Israel, Turkey, and Lebanon. They are still producing grain despite the ongoing war. And in fact, they had a better recent growing season than many of the other regions in the world.

Kelly Barner (01:46):

The problem is they can’t get it out of their country. I’m Kelly Barner, the owner of buyer’s meeting point a partner at art of procurement and your host for dial P here on supply chain. Now I’m constantly scanning the news for interesting complex articles to discuss. And of course, I read all of this to figure out what we can learn. I have a quick favor to ask we’re building out dial P for procurements independent following. So if you listen to today’s podcast and you like what you hear, I’m gonna ask you for a review, maybe a few stars alike, a share. I’m always grateful for your interest and attention. Thank you so much for listening in all right now, where was I before the war? 90% of Ukraine’s exports left their country via deep ports on the black sea. This included their grain. Now, however Russia is blockading their ports, although they’re denying it and blaming sanctions on behalf of the west.

Kelly Barner (03:00):

So the big question that we’re faced with is how do we get all of this grain out of the Ukraine? Many of the people in this listing audience are procurement or supply chain professionals. This feels like the perfect problem for us to try and solve, but it’s unbelievably complicated as I’m gonna take you through today. Now the Ukrainians themselves are very realistic about this. The government currently estimates that they expect less than half of the current harvest to actually make it out of the country. There have already been some reports contested naturally that Russia has stolen some of the grain being stored in Ukraine, creating the temptation for desperate nations to do business with Russia, undermining the west sanctions in order to feed hungry populations. Now like this point, there are a number of very delicate trade offs and difficult decisions that we’re gonna talk through today.

Kelly Barner (04:05):

And I’m gonna walk you through three specific, but interrelated challenges. We’re going to talk about desperate food insecurity. We’re going to talk about complex logistics challenges. And lastly, we’re going to talk about the pressure of time. There really is no luxury to stop and think here. So let’s start with the food insecurity piece. This is a supply chain problem of the highest order and potentially a humanitarian crisis. Global food insecurity was already high because of the pandemic and unrelated weather events. Now the inability to get all of this grain out of Ukraine is exacerbating that situation and actually making it quite dire. According to the United nations world food program, they estimate that at any given time, the world has a 10 week wheat supply on hand. That’s where we are today. 10 weeks, nothing more. Historically the world food program has gotten 40% of its wheat from Ukraine alone.

Kelly Barner (05:20):

So this is a problem that they are monitoring very closely and are very familiar with in January of 2022, a full month before Russia invaded Ukraine. The United nations warned that 41 million people in 43 countries were teetering on the very edge of famine. That number is up from 27 million just two years ago. Add to that the fact that global food prices are surging and you have a real problem on your hands. In fact, in March of 2022 global food prices hit an all time high. Now the United nations is looking at this problem across countries, but individual countries are dealing with it as well in mid-May India took the step of banning exports of wheat because they are having shortages within their own borders. They’re not really a big exporter of wheat traditionally, but that’s one more thing. Putting additional pressure on an already taxed system.

Kelly Barner (06:37):

Today, there are between 20 and 30 million metric, tons of grain sitting in Ukraine and a number of different groups are trying to figure out how they can get a corridor cleared to export that grain out to the world. Now we talk about grain and we’ve talked about sunflower oil, but wheat is a very unique crop. And we talked about the fact that just under a third of the world, supply comes from Russia and Ukraine alone. There was recently an interesting article about this in the wall street journal, it was titled a solution to the wheat shortage, genetically modified crops, and it was written by a North Dakota state Senator and actually a former wheat farmer named Terry WOSK. He pointed out that wheat farming is a laggard process compared to other crops. Genetic modification has made it possible for crops like soybeans and corn to significantly increase their yield by land use.

Kelly Barner (07:46):

And so economics are directing farmers away from wheat to other more profitable crops because the wheat industry won’t commercialize genetic modification. There are less sources of wheat and less abundant sources of wheat worldwide, which in its own way, creates more of a dependency on areas like Russia and Ukraine, where is farmed plentifully. Now logistics plays a huge part in this challenge, and we’re not just talking about one channel, both land and sea are ways that we can potentially get this grain out of Ukraine. The roads are largely jammed up. And even if they weren’t the volume that we’re talking about 20 to 30 million metric tons, this isn’t something that you’re taking out via OTR freight, right? We’re talking about enormous quantities that need to travel predominantly via train or cargo vessels. Now, one of the land routes that has been proposed is to go via Poland or Romania to reach port cities.

Kelly Barner (09:02):

If Romania is chosen, the wheat would be taken via rail to ports on the Danu river, and then it would be loaded onto barges to go to Stan, to the black sea. Now it could also go Overland through Poland, but here’s one of the interesting things. And this is where we start to run into really interesting supply chain quirks Poland’s rail gauge is not the same as what they use in Ukraine. Ukraine uses a wider gauge of rail. So there is a 16 to 30 day wait time for moving the grain from one container to another at the Polish border. Even if that weren’t an issue and they were somehow able to make all of these transfers and get across land and load it into barges and get it to port cities, Romania and Poland’s ports are not truly equipped to export the large volumes of grain that need to be moved very quickly out of the Ukraine.

Kelly Barner (10:07):

And yet, despite the challenges, there are some positives and reasons that these options are still being discussed. Both Romania and Poland are countries that are friendly to the west. Sounds simple, but it’s incredibly important as you’ll see, as we start to talk about some of the other alternatives and while they do have this non-compatible rail issue, that’s not the only challenge. It’s also slow and costly and the ports may not work out. So basically what these countries have going for them is that they’re friendly to us. And they’re there now from there, believe it or not, the options actually kind of go downhill. The next land option that’s been discussed is via Belarus to Lithuania. It’s been discussed to come up with a northward grain quarter through Belarus, to Lithuanian ports out on the Baltic sea. But like with Poland and Romania, there are both positive and negatives to this option on the positive side, Belarus and Lithuania both use the same wider gauge rail that Ukraine uses.

Kelly Barner (11:17):

So that cuts down significantly on the delays because you don’t have to transition the wheat from one type of vehicle to another. But then we come to the negatives Belarusian president Alexander Lucas Shanko is allied with Putin. In fact, he allowed the Russian military to cross through his country to get to Ukraine. Some in the Biden administration are actually proposing a six month waiver of sanctions on Belarus, potash fertilizer industry in exchange for a rail corridor. So that should be a second red flag. If the United States already has sanctions against Belarus, they’ve clearly done something that we need to be concerned about in addition to their president, just plain being friendly with Putin. Now, potash is a key ingredient in fertilizer and Belarus is one of the main sources of this worldwide in December of 2021, relatively fr frequently sanctions were imposed by the United States for quote blatant disregard for international norms and the wellbeing of its own citizens among Belarus leadership.

Kelly Barner (12:36):

At that same time, Lithuania that we would need to partner with Belarus to make this route possible, cut off belarus’s access to their ports. This is sort of like making a deal with the devil. Russia has beaten the only place for Belarus to sell their potash since the sanctions were put in place. And so even if it was an uneasy friendship, it was sort of the only option that they had now, ironically, the fact that these sanctions are in place preventing Belarus from exporting, their potash has actually been contributing to the food insecurity troubles. We just talked about by creating fertilizer shortages that are very disconcerting. So what we have is a big messy circle. Now water is also an option. What if there were a way to reopen Ukraine’s ports? Now Ukraine themselves has deliberately sunk ships and put mines in the water. So there would be some safety related cleanup that would need to be done, but Russia is also blockading those ports.

Kelly Barner (13:43):

So it’s not as if we can just clean out the waters and open these ports, Turkey and Russia have had discussions about reopening Ukraine’s ports on the black sea. And if you remember from our initial opening to this conversation, Turkey is one of the countries that is most dependent on Russian and Ukrainian agricultural exports. So they absolutely have skin in this game. So Turkey and Russia are discussing what they can read, what they can do to reopen Ukraine’s ports, to which Ukraine said, excuse me, was anyone going to invite us to this conversation, Turkey and Russia thought they were just gonna sort this out on their own without actually bringing Ukraine to the table. Both the Ukraine and the United States have agreed that Keve should be involved in any discussions involving reopening the Ukrainian ports because the United nations and their world food program is so dependent upon grain from this part of the world.

Kelly Barner (14:49):

They have also tried to broker negotiations to get odesa’s ports reopened, but every time they bring it up, Russia, of course insists on having sanctions lifted. So that’s been a no go so far. Now we’ve talked about food insecurity and we’ve talked about logistics, but if you remember, time is also not on the world’s side here. Ukrainian silos are largely already full with the grain. They have not been able to export. The next harvest is about to begin and there is nowhere to put it further complicating things is the fact that Ukrainian farmers typically count on the proceeds from this year’s full harvest to finance their next planting. So if that cash flow is interrupted because they an can’t export, what’s already in the silos and they can’t take the new harvest and put it into already full silos. They’re not going to have the resources to plant the next crop.

Kelly Barner (15:54):

If we thought we were facing a disruption. Now wait until next year rolls around. Now, when I think about this challenge in the big picture, one of the first stories we can relate to in the United States is the baby formula shortage. As of late may nationwide out of stock rates were over 70%. That is absolutely horrifying if you are a parent or certainly if you were an infant, but let’s put that in context. According to the most recent us census, 6% of the us population is age five and under if we assume a roughly even distribution, that means a little over 1% of the us population is a formula consuming age and therefore has been affected directly by the baby formula shortage. Now let’s give them credit. They may be the most sympathetic and the most adorable 1% in the country, but they are still 1%.

Kelly Barner (17:04):

Now compare that to the impact numbers based on Ukrainian grain, one example, Lebanon, they get 80% of their wheat from Ukraine, the entire country. That’s far more than 1% of the population. And of course we remember the United nations warning about 41 million people in 43 countries balanced on the edge of famine. There are no questions that there are diplomatic challenges here. We’re talking about weighing sanctions and bargaining against bad actors, abusing their people. We’re basically being forced to weigh the impact of potential famine and a multi-year food supply disruption to worldwide grain supplies against presumably justified sanctions being placed against Belarus and Russia, which is the worst evil. What do you change in exchange for what kind of return? And there are also logistical challenges. We have ports, we have barges, we have rail, there are friendly countries and unfriendly countries. The 20 metric tons currently stuck in Ukraine is enough to fill 400 massive cargo vessels.

Kelly Barner (18:31):

That’s where we get to this idea of over the road freight, simply not being enough. And even if it were somehow possible to magically open back up the ports in Odesa the ports in the Baltic, the ports and the black sea, and bring in those 400 massive ships. You can’t bring them in all at the same time and time here is the scariest resource of all. This brings me back to one of my central philosophies. When I look at supply chain or anything else, nothing that is simple is real and nothing that is real is simple. And boy is this situation real, and it is becoming more urgent by the day. This is an example of a situation where everyone world leaders, diplomats, supply chain, professionals, non-governmental organization, everyone needs to come together to try to figure out a solution fast. That’s my point of view.

Kelly Barner (19:38):

This is a very complex issue. Like all of the issues we cover here on dial P and I’m sure people listening in hold differing opinions or have additional facts to offer up, bring those into the conversation. I always ask as much as I’m grateful to you for listening to dial P or watching in on any of my video interviews or live streams. The biggest thing I want is for you to not just listen complex issues, require collaborative solutions, join the conversation and let me know what you think let’s work together to figure out the best solution. Because if there’s one thing we’re certain of, it’s going to take all of us until next time. I’m Kelly Barner. And I’m your host here on dial P for procurement on supply chain. Now, thank you so much for listening in and have a great rest of your day.

Intro/Outro (20:35):

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Jake Barr


An acknowledged industry leader, Jake Barr now serves as CEO for BlueWorld Supply Chain Consulting, providing support to a cross section of Fortune 500 companies such as Cargill, Caterpillar, Colgate, Dow/Dupont, Firmenich, 3M, Merck, Bayer/Monsanto, Newell Brands, Kimberly Clark, Nestle, PepsiCo, Pfizer, Sanofi, Estee Lauder and Coty among others. He's also devoted time to engagements in public health sector work with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. At P&G, he managed the breakthrough delivery of an E2E (End to End) Planning Transformation effort, creating control towers which now manage the daily business globally. He is recognized as the architect for P&G’s demand driven supply chain strategy – referenced as a “Consumer Driven Supply Chain” transformation. Jake began his career with P&G in Finance in Risk Analysis and then moved into Operations. He has experience in building supply network capability globally through leadership assignments in Asia, Latin America, North America and the Middle East. He currently serves as a Research Associate for MIT; a member of Supply Chain Industry Advisory Council; Member of Gartner’s Supply Chain Think Tank; Consumer Goods “League of Leaders“; and a recipient of the 2015 - 2021 Supply Chain “Pro’s to Know” Award. He has been recognized as a University of Kentucky Fellow.

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Marcia Williams


Marcia Williams, Managing Partner of USM Supply Chain, has 18 years of experience in Supply Chain, with expertise in optimizing Supply Chain-Finance Planning (S&OP/ IBP) at Large Fast-Growing CPGs for greater profitability and improved cash flows. Marcia has helped mid-sized and large companies including Lindt Chocolates, Hershey, and Coty. She holds an MBA from Michigan State University and a degree in Accounting from Universidad de la Republica, Uruguay (South America). Marcia is also a Forbes Council Contributor based out of New York, and author of the book series Supply Chains with Maria in storytelling style. A recent speaker’s engagement is Marcia TEDx Talk: TEDxMSU - How Supply Chain Impacts You: A Transformational Journey.

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Luisa Garcia

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Luisa Garcia is a passionate Marketer from Lagos de Moreno based in Aguascalientes. She holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from Universidad Autonoma de Aguascalientes, Mexico. She specializes in brand development at any stage, believing that a brand is more than just a name or image—it’s an unforgettable experience. Her expertise helps brands achieve their dreams and aspirations, making a lasting impact. Currently working at Vector Global Logistics in the Marketing team and as podcast coordinator of Logistics With Purpose®. Luisa believes that purpose-driven decisions will impact results that make a difference in the world.

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Astrid Aubert

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Astrid Aubert was born in Guadalajara, she is 39 years old and has had the opportunity to live in many places. She studied communication and her professional career has been in Trade Marketing for global companies such as Pepsico and Mars. She currently works as Marketing Director Mexico for Vector Global Logistics. She is responsible for internal communications and marketing strategy development for the logistics industry. She is a mother of two girls, married and lives in Monterrey. She defines herself as a creative and innovative person, and enjoys traveling and cooking a lot.

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Constantine Limberakis


Constantine Limberakis is a thought leader in the area of procurement and supply management. He has over 20 years of international experience, playing strategic roles in a wide spectrum of organizations related to analyst advisory, consulting, product marketing, product development, and market research.Throughout his career, he's been passionate about engaging global business leaders and the broader analyst and technology community with strategic content, speaking engagements, podcasts, research, webinars, and industry articles.Constantine holds a BA in History from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and an MBA in Finance & Marketing / Masters in Public & International Affairs from the University of Pittsburgh.

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Scott W. Luton

Founder, CEO, & Host

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Greg White

Principal & Host

When rapid-growth technology companies, venture capital and private equity firms are looking for advisory, they call Greg – a founder, board director, advisor and catalyst of disruptive B2B technology and supply chain. An insightful visionary, Greg guides founders, investors and leadership teams in creating breakthroughs to gain market exposure and momentum – increasing overall company esteem and valuation.

Greg is a founder himself, creating Blue Ridge Solutions, a Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader in cloud-native supply chain applications, and bringing to market Curo, a field service management solution. He has also held leadership roles with Servigistics (PTC) and E3 Corporation (JDA/Blue Yonder). As a principal and host at Supply Chain Now, Greg helps guide the company’s strategic direction, hosts industry leader discussions, community livestreams, and all in addition to executive producing and hosting his original YouTube channel and podcast, TEChquila Sunrise.

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Chris Barnes

Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain is Boring

Talk about world-class: Chris is one of the few professionals in the world to hold CPIM-F, CLTD-F and CSCP-F designations from ASCM/APICS. He’s also the APICS coach – and our resident Supply Chain Doctor. When he’s not hosting programs with Supply Chain Now, he’s sharing supply chain knowledge on the APICS Coach Youtube channel or serving as a professional education instructor for the Georgia Tech Supply Chain & Logistic Institute’s Supply Chain Management (SCM) program and University of Tennessee-Chattanooga Center for Professional Education courses.

Chris earned a BS in Industrial Engineering from Bradley University, an MBA with emphasis in Industrial Psychology from the University of West Florida, and is a Doctoral in Supply Chain Management candidate.

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Tyler Ward

Director of Sales

Tyler Ward serves as Supply Chain Now's Director of Sales. Born and raised in Mid-Atlantic, Tyler is a proud graduate of Shippensburg University where he earned his degree in Communications. After college, he made his way to the beautiful state of Oregon, where he now lives with his wife and daughter.

With over a decade of experience in sales, Tyler has a proven track record of exceeding targets and leading high-performing teams. He credits his success to his ability to communicate effectively with customers and team members alike, as well as his strategic thinking and problem-solving skills.

When he's not closing deals, you can find Tyler on the links or cheering on his favorite football and basketball teams. He also enjoys spending time with his family, playing pick-up basketball, and traveling back to Ocean City, Maryland, his favorite place!

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Kevin L. Jackson

Host of Digital Transformers

Kevin L. Jackson is a globally recognized Thought Leader, Industry Influencer and Founder/Author of the award winning “Cloud Musings” blog.  He has also been recognized as a “Top 5G Influencer” (Onalytica 2019, Radar 2020), a “Top 50 Global Digital Transformation Thought Leader” (Thinkers 360 2019) and provides strategic consulting and integrated social media services to AT&T, Intel, Broadcom, Ericsson and other leading companies. Mr. Jackson’s commercial experience includes Vice President J.P. Morgan Chase, Worldwide Sales Executive for IBM and SAIC (Engility) Director Cloud Solutions. He has served on teams that have supported digital transformation projects for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the US Intelligence Community.  Kevin’s formal education includes a MS Computer Engineering from Naval Postgraduate School; MA National Security & Strategic Studies from Naval War College; and a BS Aerospace Engineering from the United States Naval Academy. Internationally recognizable firms that have sponsored articles authored by him include CiscoMicrosoft, Citrix and IBM.  Books include “Click to Transform” (Leaders Press, 2020), “Architecting Cloud Computing Solutions” (Packt, 2018), and “Practical Cloud Security: A Cross Industry View” (Taylor & Francis, 2016). He also delivers online training through Tulane UniversityO’Reilly MediaLinkedIn Learning, and Pluralsight.  Mr. Jackson retired from the U.S. Navy in 1994, earning specialties in Space Systems EngineeringCarrier Onboard Delivery Logistics and carrier-based Airborne Early Warning and Control. While active, he also served with the National Reconnaissance Office, Operational Support Office, providing tactical support to Navy and Marine Corps forces worldwide.

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Enrique Alvarez

Host of Logistics with Purpose and Supply Chain Now en Español

Enrique serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials, and Private Banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales, and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy, and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has an MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean, and he also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people, and spending time with his wife and two kids, Emma and Enrique.

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Kelly Barner

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Kelly is the Owner and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point and MyPurchasingCenter. She has been in procurement since 2003, starting as a practitioner and then as the Associate Director of Consulting at Emptoris. She has covered procurement news, events, publications, solutions, trends, and relevant economics at Buyers Meeting Point since 2009. Kelly is also the General Manager at Art of Procurement and Business Survey Chair for the ISM-New York Report on Business. Kelly has her MBA from Babson College as well as an MS in Library and Information Science from Simmons College and she has co-authored three books: ‘Supply Market Intelligence for Procurement Professionals’, ‘Procurement at a Crossroads’, and ‘Finance Unleashed’.

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Mary Kate Soliva

Host, Veteran Voices

Mary Kate Soliva is a veteran of the US Army and cofounder of the Guam Human Rights Initiative. She is currently in the Doctor of Criminal Justice program at Saint Leo University. She is passionate about combating human trafficking and has spent the last decade conducting training for military personnel and the local community.

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Amanda Luton

Vice President, Production

Amanda is a production and marketing veteran and entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and organizations including Von Maur, Anthropologie, AmericasMart Atlanta, and Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. Amanda currently manages, produces, and develops modern digital content for Supply Chain Now and their clients. Amanda has previously served as the VP of Information Systems and Webmaster on the Board of Directors for APICS Savannah, and founded and managed her own successful digital marketing firm, Magnolia Marketing Group. When she’s not leading the Supply Chain Now production team, you can find Amanda in the kitchen, reading, listening to podcasts, or enjoying time with family.

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Clay Phillips

Business Development Manager

Clay is passionate about two things: supply chain and the marketing that goes into it. Recently graduated with a degree in marketing at the University of Georgia, Clay got his start as a journalism major and inaugural member of the Owl’s football team at Kennesaw State University – but quickly saw tremendous opportunity in the Terry College of Business. He’s already putting his education to great use at Supply Chain Now, assisting with everything from sales and brand strategy to media production. Clay has contributed to initiatives such as our leap into video production, the guest blog series, and boosting social media presence, and after nearly two years in Supply Chain Now’s Marketing Department, Clay now heads up partnership and sales initiatives with the help of the rest of the Supply Chain Now sales team.

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Trisha Cordes

Administrative Assistant

Trisha is new to the supply chain industry – but not to podcasting. She’s an experienced podcast manager and virtual assistant who also happens to have 20 years of experience as an elementary school teacher. It’s safe to say, she’s passionate about helping people, and she lives out that passion every day with the Supply Chain Now team, contributing to scheduling and podcast production.

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Chantel King

Social Media Manager

My name is Chantel King and I am the Social Media Specialist at Supply Chain Now. My job is to make sure our audience is engaged and educated on the abundant amount of information the supply chain industry has to offer.

Social Media and Communications has been my niche ever since I graduated from college at The Academy of Art University in San Francisco. No, I am not a West Coast girl. I was born and raised in New Jersey, but my travel experience goes way beyond the garden state. My true passion is in creating editorial and graphic content that influences others to be great in whatever industry they are in. I’ve done this by working with lifestyle, financial, and editorial companies by providing resources to enhance their businesses.

Another passion of mine is trying new things. Whether it’s food, an activity, or a sport. I would like to say that I am an adventurous Taurus that never shies away from a new quest or challenge.

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Lori Sofian

Marketing Coordinator

Lori is currently completing a degree in marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing at the University of Georgia. When she’s not supporting the marketing efforts at Supply Chain Now, you can find her at music festivals – or working toward her dream goal of a fashion career. Lori is involved in many extracurricular activities and appreciates all the learning experiences UGA has brought her.

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Katherine Hintz

Director, Customer Experience

Katherine is a marketing professional and MBA candidate who strives to unite her love of people with a passion for positive experiences. Having a diverse background, which includes nonprofit work with digital marketing and start-ups, she serves as a leader who helps people live their most creative lives by cultivating community, order, collaboration, and respect. With equal parts creativity and analytics, she brings a unique skill set which fosters refining, problem solving, and connecting organizations with their true vision. In her free time, you can usually find her looking for her cup of coffee, playing with her puppy Charlie, and dreaming of her next road trip.

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Mary Kate Love

Chief of Staff & Host

Mary Kate Love is currently the VP of marketing at Supply Chain Now focused on brand strategy and audience + revenue growth. Mary Kate’s career is a testament to her versatility and innovative spirit: she has experience in start-ups, venture capital, and building innovation initiatives from the ground up: she previously helped lead the build-out of the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific and before that, MxD (Manufacturing times Digital): the Department of Defense’s digital manufacturing innovation center. Mary Kate has a passion for taking complicated ideas and turning them into reality: she was one of the first team members at MxD and the first team member at the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific.

Mary Kate dedicates her extra time to education and mentorship: she was one of the founding Board Members for Women Influence Chicago and led an initiative for a city-wide job shadow day for young women across Chicago tech companies and was previously on the Board of Directors at St. Laurence High School in Chicago, Young Irish Fellowship Board and the UN Committee for Women. Mary Kate is the founder of National Supply Chain Day and enjoys co-hosting podcasts at Supply Chain Now. Mary Kate is from the south side of Chicago, a mom of two baby boys, and an avid 16-inch softball player. She holds a BS in Political Science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

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Joshua Miranda

Marketing Specialist

Joshua is a student from Institute of Technology and Higher Education of Monterrey Campus Guadalajara in Communication and Digital Media. His experience ranges from Plug and Play México, DearDoc, and Nissan México creating unique social media marketing campaigns and graphics design. Joshua helps to amplify the voice of supply chain here at Supply Chain Now by assisting in graphic design, content creation, asset logistics, and more.  In his free time he likes to read and write short stories as well as watch movies and television series.

Donna Krache

Director of Communications and Executive Producer

Donna Krache is a former CNN executive producer who has won several awards in journalism and communication, including three Peabodys.  She has 30 years’ experience in broadcast and digital journalism. She led the first production team at CNN to convert its show to a digital platform. She has authored many articles for CNN and other media outlets. She taught digital journalism at Georgia State University and Arizona State University. Krache holds a bachelor’s degree in government from the College of William and Mary and a master’s degree in curriculum and instruction from the University of New Orleans. She is a serious sports fan who loves the Braves. She is president of the Dave Krache Foundation. Named in honor of her late husband, this non-profit pays fees for kids who want to play sports but whose parents are facing economic challenges.

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