Supply Chain Now
Episode 838

You've got a, an industry that's siloed by nature, whether it's ocean or full truckload or drainage or whatever. And then the tech players have optimized technology around each of those silos. So you've got a siloed market, siloed technology, and, you know, you end up getting what Michael says, people that are not on the same page.

-Luis Pajares, Turvo

Episode Summary

It’s the ultimate supply chain partnership. From 3PL to warehousing and port drayage, Port City Logistics knows how to get goods moving, while Turvo ensures actionable transparency for customers along the route. Now meet two of the minds behind this winning duo, Michael Caney, Chief Growth Officer at Port City Logistics and Luis Pajares, Chief Customer Officer at Turvo. Scott and Greg sat down with them to learn more about how the two companies came together, what truly makes for transparent operations, why dashboards are not enough and more.

Episode Transcript

Intro/Outro (00:03):

Welcome to Supply Chain Now, the voice of global supply chain. Supply Chain Now focuses on the best in the business for our worldwide audience, the people, the technologies, the best practices, and today’s critical issues, the challenges, and opportunities. Stay tuned to hear from those making global business happen right here on Supply Chain Now.

Scott Luton (00:33):

Hey. Good morning. Scott Luton and Greg White with you here on Supply Chain Now. Welcome to today’s livestream. Greg, how are we doing?

Greg White (00:40):

We’re doing great, Scott. It is great to be here, isn’t it?

Scott Luton (00:43):

It is wonderful. What a gorgeous day outside. We’ve got a dynamic story here today, I think, folks are going to get a lot out of. And you’re back from all your world travels.

Greg White (00:52):


Scott Luton (00:55):

So, no stories there, clearly. And we may just get an update on the – infamous now – Hilton Head Index. Did you want to wait and share that when our guests arrive or –

Greg White (01:07):

I’m happy to do it now. But it’s interesting that it won’t really be news to our guests because they’re probably providing or constantly monitoring this data. But, yes, so that everyone knows, the Hilton Head Index, the index that assesses the backup at the Port of Savannah, the official global index that assesses the backup at the Port of Savannah. For today, the index is four. There are ships steaming in and out of the Port of Savannah. Just a little shoutout to the Colorado Express steaming at 9.1 knots at 116 degrees on their way out of the port. And then, four ships waiting for their turn to get in there and get offloaded, maybe even by our guest people.

Scott Luton (01:55):

Maybe so. Greg, we’re going to have to send you a videographer down there. We’re going to have to set up, like, a static shot of these vessels coming and going. I love the data you bring to the show.


Scott Luton (02:07):

But speaking of stories and data and information that’s actionable that you got to listen to, today we’re going to be hearing from two companies – Greg referenced them. They’re both on the move. Both are very successfully navigating the current obstacle course that is global supply chain. Greg, remember the good old show Double Dare?

Greg White (02:27):


Scott Luton (02:27):

Double Dare on Nickelodeon. Okay. Well, you’re ruining my setup, man.

Greg White (02:33):

Yes. Yes, Scott. I do remember that.

Scott Luton (02:34):

Everything is a physical challenge it seems like these days in global supply chain. Certainly not [inaudible].

Greg White (02:39):

There’s no question about that.

Scott Luton (02:41):

Yes. Well, today, Greg, we’re going to hear from two companies and two leaders that are making it happen, and doing so very, very well. So, with that said, Greg, with that said, are you ready to welcome in our two guests here?

Greg White (02:56):

I am. I want to know what their take is. Let’s just start with Savannah and then hear about the global state of supply chain.

Scott Luton (03:05):

I love it. And, you know, I love where we’re going to start. We got a story to get to. We got some new innovative best practices and, of course, a partnership we’re going to talk about.


Greg White (03:14):

But first, food.


Scott Luton (03:16):

But first we’re going to start with a really cool – that’s right. Always food here at Supply Chain Now. So, no further ado, I want to bring in our featured guests, Michael Caney, Chief Growth Office with Port City Logistics, and Luis Pajares, Chief Customer Officer with Turvo. Hey. Hey. Luis, Michael, how are we doing?

Michael Caney (03:35):

Hey, guys. How are you?

Luis Pajares (03:36):

Good morning.

Scott Luton (03:38):

It is so good to see you. We had a blast on the pre-show – we’re going to talk about food here in a second – mainly our conversation centered on sneakers. Is that right, Michael and Luis?

Michael Caney (03:50):

Yeah. And a bit of your nostalgia, Scott, which you just kept going with Double Dare. So, I feel like the audience is a little bit nervous missing out on JG Wentworth, Sam Smith, [inaudible].

Greg White (03:55):

Right. Thank, Michael. South of the Border.

Luis Pajares (04:05):

And we have to start with the chat line, everybody’s going to tell us what kind of sneakers Scott’s wearing.

Michael Caney (04:12):

We’ve decided white New Balance. Definitely white New Balance.

Scott Luton (04:16):

Well, you’re so close, Mike. You’re so close. So, folks, if you remembered money day on The Buzz, we had a little challenge with the StreamYard platform, a little challenge with comments that should have been fixed. So, we want to hear from you, weigh in throughout the whole session here today. Luis, I love your direction. Let’s start with your favorite sneaks as a kid or now, you pick.

Luis Pajares (04:36):

Yeah. You know, Stan Smiths, those were the holy grail when I was a kid. If you had Stan Smiths, you were rocking it. And the funny thing about it is that I still have a pair of Stan Smiths and I love my Stan Smiths. So, that was the rocking shoe for me back then. I love playing tennis, if you had the Stans, it was all in.

Greg White (05:01):

That’s true. And they are making a really strong comeback. And by the way, they are great looking shoes. I just happened to dig up a picture of them somewhere and I think they’re perfect. You know how everybody wears tennis shoes with suits now? They wear the leather tennis shoes. Stan Smiths will go with anything.

Luis Pajares (05:23):

And you don’t have to pay hundreds of dollars for them. So, they’re terrific. I recommend them.

Scott Luton (05:30):

All right. And, Michael, I’m going to get your take here in just a second on shoes, of course, since we’ve already opened that and let the genie out of the bottle there. But, folks, I’m getting a little word from our world class production team that the platform still is having issue with LinkedIn comments. So, I see a couple coming in from YouTube. Our team’s going to do what they always do, they’re going to find a workaround. They’ll be bringing those comments in manually. But if you do want to comment and have it be shown, venture over to the YouTube version of the stream and we’ll make that happen. All right. And thank you for the heads up, Amanda. Okay.


Scott Luton (06:03):

Michael, before we talk cookies, because it’s a big international holiday here today, give us your favorite sneaker as a kid or now.

Michael Caney (06:10):

So, I think my current favorite, I’ve been on kind of a Vans kid.

Scott Luton (06:15):


Michael Caney (06:15):

We’re talking for the call, like when your kids. Like, I didn’t have a plethora of shoes. You had your play shoes and your school shoes and you had to rotate them. So, I have a habit of just buying any shoe I want now. And I’ve got, like, four pairs of Vans that are on pretty steady rotation.

Scott Luton (06:31):

Man, ask and you shall receive. You left one out though, church shoes with church socks, which are the real slippery thing.


Michael Caney (06:38):

Yeah. There’s that.


Scott Luton (06:40):

When you took those church shoes off, you could do moonwalks down hardwood floors all day long, at least we did in the Luton household. Okay. Let’s see, Tom Zeis is back with us, Luis. Tom was all the rage in the last livestream. He says, “Hello from Denver. Looking forward to hearing Port City story.” We are, too, because Michael and the partnership here has one incredible story. Okay.


Scott Luton (07:03):

But before we get there in welcoming Tom, and Sam, and others, and Jeff Leroy also down there in Savannah, let’s talk food. Because we can’t have a livestream without talking food. So, today, Greg, Michael, and Luis is Tim Tam Day in Australia. I didn’t even know that was a thing, Tim Tam. So, Tim Tam is a popular cream field sandwich biscuit or cookie, that’s clearly the cookie of choice across Australia, really across that region. So, we take that and, of course, it’s Girl Scout cookie season. We just had, in very disciplined manner, passed by a stand last weekend because we are addicted to thin mints around here. And, gosh, you open up the box, it’s gone like that. So, all that aside though, I want to start with you, Michael, what is your go-to cookie and where do you get it?

Michael Caney (07:53):

So, my first question, do you keep your thin mints in the fridge?

Scott Luton (07:56):

No. Never have.

Greg White (07:57):

What? You don’t?

Scott Luton (07:58):

No. Is that a thing?

Michael Caney (08:01):

It’s a must. Yeah. Go now to your kitchen and put them in the fridge. We’ll wait. It’s fine.

Greg White (08:07):

It’s a preservation technique, Scott. It’s really necessary to the longevity of the food.

Scott Luton (08:12):

Well, that’s just my point, they don’t last long. That’s why I can’t buy them because they don’t fit in that New Year’s diet of mine. You know what I mean?

Greg White (08:20):

Try freezing them, it makes it harder to eat more.

Scott Luton (08:24):

Okay. All right. So, clearly we have lots of thin mint fans. Michael, what else beyond thin mints?

Michael Caney (08:29):

I’d love a really good chocolate chip cookie. I’m always kind of on the hunt for a really good chocolate chip cookie. And they are not bought in the cookie aisle. Like, a good bakery.


Scott Luton (08:40):

Home made.


Michael Caney (08:40):

The best one I’ve ever had was from a place in Watersound, and I don’t remember the bakery. But down in Watersound, Florida, man. It was great. I dream about that cookie. It was a good cookie.

Scott Luton (08:50):

Man, you’re making me hungry. I’ll tell you, me and Greg are big fans of chocolate chip cookies. All right. Luis, how about you?

Luis Pajares (08:56):

So, I got to tell you, my wife, Michelle, makes the best chocolate chip cookie in the world. And even better than that, it might be 10:00 at night and I’ll say, “Honey, gosh, you know what? A chocolate chip cookie would be wonderful.” She’ll go make them. And, Michael, next time I see you, I’m going to bring some of my wife’s chocolate chip cookies, and then we’re going to put that test.

Michael Caney (09:15):

I’m already planning it.

Luis Pajares (09:16):

But I got to tell you if I had a go-to dessert, can we audible what it was?

Greg White (09:26):

Yeah, of course.

Luis Pajares (09:27):

Chocolate ice cream with a strawberry pop tart. I would have one of those every night as a kid. And then, I got married and it got cut out. And I could tell you that was my go-to dessert all the time.

Scott Luton (09:41):

That’s a new one for me, Greg.

Greg White (09:43):

The hot strawberry pop tart, Luis? Toasted?

Luis Pajares (09:43):

Hot. Yeah. You put it in the toaster with that chocolate ice cream, but no frosting on the pop tart. Just the non-frosted one. That is still my go-to.

Michael Caney (09:56):

Can you still buy a non-frosted pop tart?

Luis Pajares (09:58):

It’s hard to find. It’s hard to find. Well, I’m not allowed to really eat them anymore, but if I see a box, I’ll take everything they got.

Scott Luton (10:08):

I love it. I love it. We’re going to try that with the kids.

Greg White (10:11):

Michael, [inaudible] to try and dig up some strawberry pop tarts and chocolate ice cream for Luis if he’s going to bring you the best chocolate chip cookies in the world.

Michael Caney (10:19):

Yeah. So, when I come to Dallas, what you’re saying is dessert and coffee is at your house, Luis.

Luis Pajares (10:23):



Scott Luton (10:24):

Dessert and coffee.

Michael Caney (10:24):

[Inaudible] say, “Where do you want to go to dinner?” I’m going to say, “Well, over by the airport at my friend, Luis’s, house.”

Luis Pajares (10:32):

Finished by that nice cigar.

Scott Luton (10:36):

Yes. All right. Let’s go make this happen this weekend. Really quick, Greg – I promise you, folks, we’ll get into a great story here today in just a minute. But, Greg, you’re the cleanup hitter, talking cookies and dessert, what is it?

Greg White (10:49):

It’s definitely chocolate chip. And not to contradict Luis, but in classical Kansas City and Dallas fashion, we have conflicting views. So, I’m going to say my wife’s are the best chocolate chip cookies. And it’s funny, Luis, because she’ll do the same thing. In fact, she will volunteer without asking. And it became such a tradition in our family that if somebody in the family or close to the family got hurt, they got chocolate chip cookies. I swear my kids would hurt themselves on purpose to get these chocolate chip cookies.

Michael Caney (11:22):

Guys, I’ll have to hang up, I’m texting my wife [inaudible].

Greg White (11:24):

If you will do yourself bodily harm.

Scott Luton (11:27):

All right. So, we got a lot of fact finding to do after all of these claims. We’re going to have get into the true number one. We’ll save that for another time.

Greg White (11:35):

That’s right. We need to have a get together and have a consortium where we do some serious judging here.

Scott Luton (11:42):

Agreed. Due diligence, international consortium, judges, you name it. We got to do it right.

Greg White (11:48):

Scott, don’t let yourself off the hook. Come on.

Scott Luton (11:49):

Okay. All right. So, on that note, freezing thin mint is a thing. We’ll find out that later this week. Warren Chile is saying that Caney is a shoe king. So, we’re learning more about Michael Caney and his shoe collection. Let’s see here, Sam Foley is with us here today, “Looking forward to hearing from Michael and Luis.” I agree with you there, Sam. And, finally, Jeff Leroy. So, Jeff is a supply chain pro and leader. He serves the Savannah chapter, I think, of ASCM. But I think he’s based, Greg, in Hilton Head Island. He’s inviting you to come on down and we’ll watch the containerships roll on in. So, I love that. TSquared, who holds down to fort for us on YouTube, says, “A global supply chain can be best described as largely constipated and in need of various types of enemas.” Goodness gracious. Hey, TSquared, that is quite a visual there.

Greg White (12:45):

Yeah. I did not need that visual.

Michael Caney (12:46):

That’s aggressive

Scott Luton (12:47):

Technological and otherwise. Hey, Tsquared, I hope this finds you well wherever you are. Okay. So, Greg, as we move past shoes and cookies, where are we starting with Michael and Luis?

Greg White (13:00):

I mean, we’ve already talked about two of the most important things in the world, that is food and the Port of Savannah. So, the global Hilton Head Index, I’d love to get maybe a little bit broader perspective. So, what is that you are seeing? We get a lot of input on these shows from folks that see a lot of what’s going on. But considering Turvo, what you guys do in terms of providing the technologies, and, Michael, what you all do in terms of solving the problems with those technologies, I’m interested to hear what you’re seeing these days in global supply chain. So, Michael, you want to go first?

Michael Caney (13:37):

Yeah. Absolutely. So, I don’t want to over talk what’s already been talked about on every show, which is the steamship lines including and running prices up and all those things. So, we mainly deal with the international freight once it gets here. And I would say the majority of what we’re seeing with all the backlogs, and all the delays, whatever, is that, there is a real desire for all the walls to come down.


Michael Caney (14:05):

You know, I’ve been doing this for a while and international was one department and domestic transportation was another department. And I think we’re seeing, “Hey, we all have to kind of talk. We got to stop having separate platforms.” We can’t have the international traffic manager and the domestic traffic manager on two different planets anymore. And they have been. I mean, I’ve got Fortune 100 shippers, like, different spend, different strategy, I got to talk to two different people. And I think the trend is I want a single solution. I think companies are looking to manage their cost more holistically rather than in these kind of siloes.

Scott Luton (14:46):

And more easily. Excellent point, Michael. Luis, what are some things you’re seeing?

Luis Pajares (14:54):

Well, no, I think, the supply chain being siloed has been a condition that has been around for a long time. And I think from a technology standpoint, technology has been built around those existing silo services. So, you’ve got an industry that’s siloed by nature, whether it’s ocean, or full truckload, or drayage, or whatever. And then, the tech players have optimized technology around each of those silos. So, you’ve got a siloed market, siloed technology, and you end up getting what Michael says, people that are not on the same page.

Scott Luton (15:33):

Right. Excellent place to start. Greg, I know you’re itching when we combine supply chain and technology and silos. What are some of the things you heard Michael and Luis share there?

Greg White (15:43):

Well, we hear a lot about these terms, visibility and transparency. And for a lot of different reasons, all of those things are very, very, very important. And I think one of the things you have to recognize is you have to be able to do something with that visibility. And it is, as Michael and Luis are talking about, to break down those silos to be able to collaborate because, if you’re a truckload manager, your job doesn’t end once it goes on an LTL trailer. You still owe something to your company. This is a very simple business supply chain. We do one thing, we deliver. We have all these complications that get in the way or help facilitate lower cost or whatever. But that’s the only thing we do. And anything else that overly complicates that creates a problem and we’ve lived with it for so long. At first, pretty much intentionally kind of the way supply chain came up.

Greg White (16:43):

And then, eventually as supply chain evolved, we did, as both of them said, kind of build technologies and build viewpoints around a specific segment, only LTL, or only truck load, or only ocean, or air, or drayage, or cartage, or whatever. So, now, we’ve seen the impact of that. And I think we knew a couple of dynamics didn’t really exist before. One, we didn’t have the possibility, I suppose, of a real broad view point. And, two, nobody cared because supply chain was those dirty guys and blue shirts that say Lou, who carried boxes and drove trucks. And, now, it’s a much, much more scientific. It’s not a brute force industry now. It is a scientific industry now. And the world has finally started to recognize that after much cajoling from all of us professionals out there.

Scott Luton (17:38):

And a major, major competitive advantage. So, a lot of good stuff there, Michael, Luis, and Greg. Really quick, Tom Zeis says, “Any chocolate is better cold.” I’m learning some new things here. We’re going to try some new things this week. Eddie Herrera says, “Hello from Corona, California.” Good to see you. Jason T. Hopkins, “D.C. resident, Alabama fan,” is tuned in as well. Good to see you, Tom Valentine. Jessica Wash says Savannah has the best food. That is a great, great comment. Arguably, but a great comment. Lori Renzo is tuned in from Pittsburgh. Matt Adler is a big fan of putting chocolate in the freezer. Good afternoon, everybody. Okay.


Scott Luton (18:17):

So, from these initial comments, I want to move into, first, the Port City Logistics story. Michael, we had a great conversation last week as we dove a little deeper to all the cool things you are up to. Certainly, not doing business as usual. So, tell us a few things, what’s the most important aspects of the Port City Logistics story, Michael?

Michael Caney (18:36):

Yeah. I think there’s a couple of things. Most importantly, we’re privately held and we’re a very entrepreneurial business. So, I would say the other thing, the trend we’re seeing is, you know, Greg, you said we do one thing, we deliver, right? And I think shippers, everybody, what they’re really after is two things, “I want my providers to keep their commitments.” Complete whatever you commit to, follow through. And I want it done fast. Like, delays, whatever, we all know that it happens, but keep your commitments, and within your control, do it fast.


Michael Caney (19:08):

So, that’s the interesting thing about Port City is we have a real commitment to deliver, keep our commitments, and go fast. And it was started by an entrepreneur named Billy Robinson – one of my favorite humans on the planet – who was an entrepreneur that just hated his day job. He was a sales guy selling industrial supply and just didn’t like it in the port. You know, he tells the story and says, “I saw the port doing this and figured I needed to get involved in it.” So, he bought a courier business. He had, like, two doors and a couple of pickup trucks.

Scott Luton (19:36):


Greg White (19:37):

I think we met Billy in Charleston. Is that the Billy Robinson? Didn’t we meet him?

Michael Caney (19:43):

Lots of energy, full of life, one of the nicest guys you ever met, probably

Greg White (19:47):

That sounds very familiar. Did he start it with his brother or was his brother involved at one point? Okay. Okay. I may be thinking of somebody else.

Michael Caney (19:55):

No. But you should come down and meet him.

Greg White (19:57):

I’m going to do that.

Michael Caney (19:58):

He plays a lot of golf now. I work hard so he can [inaudible] and I’m happy [inaudible].

Greg White (20:01):

Definitely going to do it, then.

Scott Luton (20:04):

Clearly, business is good. Business is good. So, very entrepreneurial is one of the things I heard there. Michael, you talked about how that’s kind of permeated the culture, right?

Michael Caney (20:13):

Yeah. So, you know, Port City is going to have three phases, like any startup business, how do you make payroll, how do you get insurance, how do you just say yes to everything. Port City started by going, “We now have a building. We now have overhead. Say yes. I don’t care what the shipment is, say yes.” There’s pictures of when the guys would unload, somebody called and a container of frozen concentrate, like orange juice concentrate, had tipped over. And they pulled it into a warehouse because they just made business, we’ll say yes. And that’s kind of the evolution of Port City. Like, they weren’t warehousing guys. Like, his dad wasn’t in the warehouse business and his Uncle Lou wasn’t wearing the blue shirt, driving the truck [inaudible].

Michael Caney (20:55):

So, that’s not how it started. It was just like, “I don’t want to be a sales guy anymore. I’m going to do something entrepreneurial.” And he built relationships in the city and with the GPA. And so, we figured out how to get it done. So, within Port City, there is no mindset about, “Well, this is just how you always run a distribution.” It just doesn’t exist. Our CEO is a commercial banker before he joined Port City. So, it’s a very entrepreneurial business. People that just love solving customer problems, love the business model, really started out as you get two things, you have storage [inaudible] revenue and real estate and a distribution business. We own a lot of our buildings and develop. We’re very unique in that we actually develop property.


Michael Caney (21:41):

So, a lot of distribution companies, they’re in speculative buildings that have bad yards and they’re built to maximize a footprint, not maximize freight flow. So, we’re unique in that we develop. So, fast forward today, we’ve got three million square feet under management. We’ve got a crew driving up South Carolina right now to open a 220,000 square foot building. And we are a full service drayage, warehousing, and distribution, truckload, and LTL transportation.

Scott Luton (22:13):

All right. So, with that base – and congrats on all the growth – Luis, I want to bring you in. And some of the things that you heard Michael share there, and some of the things that’s like working with a company on the move like that, what else stands out to you about this story, Luis?

Luis Pajares (22:27):

Two things. One is they understand that shippers aren’t looking for the entire service. I think shippers are learning that this fragmented, again, siloed way of doing business and moving freight, it’s not working. And if you think about how terrible COVID has been on a humanitarian basis, what it has done for the supply chain, it has exposed all the flaws and all the traps that are now common use to everybody. So, I think the first point I’m trying to make is that, the shippers are looking for companies like Port City that provide service from A to Z. The second thing is – and Michael started talking about him, but I know him. And I think he’s going to talk about this a whole lot more – about experience. And they think about shippers now realizing that their supply chain does impact customer experience. So, those are the two things that I’ve learned as I’ve gotten to meet the Port City team they’re maniacal about.

Scott Luton (23:38):

And we picked that up earlier and we picked that up in part of the answer there. And, Greg, I’m coming to you in just a second. But whatever it takes, blending digital owned operated assets, partner asset like networks, whatever it is, for a true world class customer experience. And, Michael, we’re going to talk about that in a second. Because as we illustrate some of the work you are doing together that’s enabling that world class service, we got some great examples. And, Greg, I’m going to come to you and hear what you heard Michael and Luis shared.


Scott Luton (24:09):

Really quick, Girdar Ready says, “Supply chain silos and it needs an end-to-end solution.” Excellent point. Something we’re all speaking to. I believe, Dan, going all the way back to food because food is on everybody’s mind, “Chocolate with Belgian [inaudible].” So, beer and chocolate. I love that, Dan. Tim Ingram, he’s teaming it up. He’s back with us here today. He says, “Good morning, guys. It’s been a while.” Tim, hope this finds you well. And then, Tom Valentine, old TV, says, “The supply chain links need to reconnect as one. The problem is there’s no incentive to make it a reality because their profitability is off the charts. No motivation to change.” Okay. A lot of good stuff there. Before we continue on with Michael and Luis, Greg, your comment based on what you heard a little bit about Port City Logistics’s story.

Greg White (24:53):

Yeah. I think it’s interesting that Billy took first a practitioner’s perspective. His frustration with what he was doing with the supply chain and empathy first for those people that are being served by the supply chain and became an expert from a new perspective. And I think there’s more people that need to do that. You know I believe consumer is the beginning and the end of the supply chain. And if we think about it, as they do at Port City, how to serve the shipper’s, the consumer’s purpose, you’ll always win that way.


Greg White (25:27):

And to Luis’s point, I’ve long thought – you know, I’ve been in the supply chain industry more than two decades. I started on the shipper side – we were really good at marketing, and merchandising, and selling product. We were total at doing anything that had to do with logistics. At various companies that I worked with, we had our own trucks, we swung to completely outsource all kinds of variations in between. But the truth is, I think companies are much, much more aware in this day and age of what they’re good at. When you look at some of the new brands that are out there, they don’t even bother to build their own logistics enterprise. They just outsource it to a company, like Port City, and let them handle that. They know they’re terrible at it. And you get great economies of scale by doing it that way. So, I think those are both great awarenesses for these two guys to have.

Scott Luton (26:21):

Agreed. All right. So, Michael, I’m going to give you the last word. I want to get into several examples that really illustrates a partnership and what it’s enabled an organization to do. But as we close kind of the book on the story – and ten minutes doesn’t ever do it justice, especially with the company on the move – what’s one thing that should stick in our listeners crawl about what business is like at Port City Logistics?

Michael Caney (26:44):

Yeah. I think if you’re a shipper, we’re going to get your goods out of the Southeast faster and better than anybody else and you’re going to see everything that’s going on. We’re really transparent. So, we keep our commitments and we’re really transparent. If you’re looking for a place to work, I would say that our executive team and the founders of this company are some of the most genuine and generous people I’ve ever met in my life.

Scott Luton (27:09):

That says a lot [inaudible].

Greg White (27:11):

How are they at golf would you say, Michael?

Michael Caney (27:14):

Well, better than me, which is a very low bar. But they also do enjoy golf.

Greg White (27:22):

I think that’s good. So, they pay if they don’t win. I have a feeling Billy’s working on his game right now.


Michael Caney (27:32):

He is.

Greg White (27:34):

That’s fantastic. I mean, look, I think that one of the things we’re going to see here in fairly short order is we’re going to see the labor situation turn around. And people who are candidates need to be looking for companies like that. They have an outstanding culture. They have a great purpose that have kind of a higher calling.

Michael Caney (27:54):

Yeah. And I think the only other thing I would say, and maybe we’ll get to this a little bit more later, but I think it’s really important that logistic service providers, LSPs – that’s been the fun thing – we’re not just brokers anymore. We’re all brokers, but whatever. LSPs have skin in the game.

Michael Caney (28:12):

Like, look, I came here to build our Asset Lite business. We really wanted to grow that. Everyone knows it’s a good business to have. But you function differently. Like, I mean if you guys want to know what millions of dollars worth of racking looks like, it’s over my shoulder. We have skin in the game. There is a difference in an operating company that is willing to put up four walls, hire truck drivers, which is a different level of risk associated with that. You have a fundamentally different understanding than if you only work in a high-rise building and talk on the phone.

Greg White (28:48):

That’s a big commitment. All of that physical infrastructure is a huge commitment. And with great power comes great responsibility. You’re like the Spiderman of logistics.


Michael Caney (28:59):

All the nostalgia today.

Scott Luton (29:02):

All right. So, if I can butt in just for a second, supply chain super comics and superheroes, I love it. I really want to keep playing that thread out. But really quick, Tim Ingram says, “My perspective on visibility in improving silos within healthcare supply chain, medical supplies, PPE, for example, need a specific priority.” Excellent point, Tim. And Tim is a big healthcare supply chain pro. Sylvia – I love Sylvia’s comment here. We’re going to have to get a little horn with StreamYard. But Sylvia says, “Excellent POV. We now wear our blue collar with pride. And that would be Sylvia instead of Lou there.” So, Sylvia, hope this finds you well. Thanks for connecting by the way with Brendan, which is a coast guardsman. He’s about to retire and looking for a job in supply chain. I really appreciate that, Sylvia.

Scott Luton (29:46):

Okay. So, let’s get back on track. Now, that we’ve kind of gotten a taste and a feel, and, gosh, if you could just put your finger on the screen and feel Michael’s passion that make up the culture there at Port City Logistics. It’s very palpable. Luis, we talked about that last week. Let’s really focus on three aspects of this partnership, because great organizations that are on the move have got to have great business partners and suppliers, especially technology partners. And I think the Turvo-Port City Logistics partnership, obviously it’s fueled growth and success and innovation. And I picked up this quote from Michael last week, “It’s allowed Port City Logistics to say yes, and deliver that world class customer experience.”


Scott Luton (30:28):

So, let’s pull that green curtain back and see what’s behind that. So, starting with Michael, you mentioned earlier in our earlier conversations how you’re able working with Turvo to leverage all three of your business units with the customers. And – get this – it allows your customers to use Turvo with a single pane of glass. Speak more to that.

Michael Caney (30:49):

Yeah. So, you know, when I came here – we kind of talked about it – I said, “You know, the last thing the world needs is just another broker.” And my experience also in being an operator for close to 20 years and being a broker for warehouse companies and contract warehousing managers, is that, they don’t operate transportation businesses very well. Like, something is always sucking the attention, especially in an asset business. That PNL just kind of sucks the life out of everything else, typically.


Michael Caney (31:21):

But what we said at here, you know, our vision was we’re going to build a great end-to-end customer experience. We’re going to be the fastest out of the port. We’re going to reduce the dwell time for customers. We’re going to get it through a building. And we’re going to get it to the middle mile faster than anybody else. So, I started looking for technology to do that. And the gentleman that leads our technology business, I would argue that is probably one of the best in the space. He has built TMS’s, has built software from the ground up. And we selected Turvo. And so, one of the things that we looked at was we wanted a great public API. And we wanted something that we could extend to customers in a fashion that wasn’t just a portal. Like, don’t say that you have customer visibility if you just skin a portal. That’s stupid.

Scott Luton (32:00):

And we’re going to talk about that next because I loved your commentary last time around that.

Michael Caney (32:04):

Yeah. So, basically, that was Turvo. We’ve got disparate systems, just like everybody else. We’ve got tech debt, just like everybody else. Everybody’s lying when they say that they don’t. We’ve got off the shelf stuff, and there’s nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with owning off the shelf. But what Turvo allows us to do is tie all of those disparities in not a dashboard. It’s actionable. So, we stood up a warehouse, we stood up 500,000 square feet of warehouse space in seven days, for a customer that needed to clear a 1,100 container backlog. And we stood it up. We have their inventory in there. They can see things in Item Master. So, we’re not just punching truckloads through.

Scott Luton (32:48):

So, Michael, really quick, seven days, that seems extremely quick. What would you say is the average time out in industry? I mean, seven days, man, you’re moving mountains.

Michael Caney (32:58):

A long time. Well, again, I think that’s why it’s important you work with a business that understands. When you’re talking about, first, the middle mile, there’s multiple phases. It’s not just getting somebody to pull a box. You have to have a building. You have to have a transit facility. You have to have truckload carrier. All that kind of stuff. You know, for us, when we operate, we’re focused. Like, you’re not going to see me put a building in Long Beach.


Michael Caney (33:19):

We know the Savannah market. So, we knew where subleases were. We knew where we could go figure out space. We took down the last available space in Savannah at that time period, because we knew people. We can execute leases quickly. We’re talking about speed, we don’t have seven attorneys that read leases here. We just don’t. We make a decision and we do it. So, we can say yes. We make real estate commitments quickly. We have our own trucks. So, a combination of all that together, you can say yes and go fast.

Scott Luton (33:50):

All right. So, I want to circle back over to Luis. And we’re going to talk about visibility next, some interesting insights there. But, Luis, talk to us about this single pane of glass. What do you mean by that?

Luis Pajares (34:02):

Yeah. When we started the company back in 2014, it was clear that – again, earlier on, I talked about how technology was optimized around a monolithic function. And, today, look at us, we’re collaborating via this platform here – collaboration didn’t exist in the supply chain. And if you think about supply chain, there isn’t an industry that requires more collaboration to put perspective on it. If you’re a shipper, 70 percent of the people that move your product to your customer don’t work for your company. So, think about 70 percent of those people that you have to organize and bring them together.


Luis Pajares (34:56):

And Turvo started with this idea of how do we help our customers plan, execute, and settle – and this is what makes us special – with this layer of collaboration that allows companies, like Port City, to differentiate their 4PL service, provide a better experience, and grow like wildfire. That’s what we saw and that’s what we’re executing on today.

Scott Luton (35:23):

I love that. Wildfire, hot cakes, those analogies, I love them moving. It’s all about moving and moving fast. Greg, based on what Michael shared and Luis has shared about lightning fast collaboration, what do you hear there?

Greg White (35:40):

Yeah. I think that we said it a little bit earlier, something more than visibility is required. Visibility is great but it’s not enough. And I think what Turvo and Port City are doing is they’re creating actionable insights and recommendations. To Michael’s point, a dashboard is just a report. It just tells you how fast you’re going or what gear you’re in. It doesn’t help you make a decision necessarily there. And portals are even less so, that’s just static data that somebody posts up there for you to look at. With the real time impact of real APIs, these live real time interconnectors between systems, it allows you to make decisions to choose how you want to see the data, to interpret that data, and then take action. And that’s what increases the speed.

Scott Luton (36:38):

Right. Well, that, and the fact there’s not an army of attorneys, as Michael said. And we love attorneys around here. But speed, speed, speed.


Michael Caney (36:45):



Scott Luton (36:48):

Really quick. Vajid has a great comment – and, again, folks streaming our platforms got a little tech glitch. We’re not able to pull in comments like we typically do. But y’all keep them coming, we’re going to refactor those into the conversation. Vajid says, “Putting all effort into building an excellent customer journey will always pay off.” And if there’s anything I’m taking away from Michael and what the culture is at Port City Logistics, it’s like, “Mr./Ms. Customer, whatever you want to get done, we’re going to do it, we’re going to do it fast.”


Scott Luton (37:15):

All right. Let’s talk about visibility. This is going to be my favorite par of this conversation. So, Michael, let’s dispel that tired old lip service definition of visibility. What is non-blue dot visibility at Port City Logistics?

Michael Caney (37:31):

Look, I’m going to just say this, we’re not 100 percent there, where we want to be. I mean, Luis and I talk a couple of times like, “I need it to be able to do this. We need to be able to do this.” But when we talk about visibility, what carrier did I use? What did it cost? Where’s your style? Where’s your inventory? When did it get here? When did it leave? When a customer logs into [inaudible] tenant, their instance, whatever, we want them to know everything that’s going on with their shipment. We want them to be able to collaborate. We want them to be able to message us in the platform.


Michael Caney (38:02):

Now, look, it’s really important, I think, for anybody that’s trying to go down that visibility path to understand that it takes a team. Turvo is not a magic bullet. It’s like you turn Turvo on and everything works. And I’ve got crack guys that are working through, you know, ASNs and EDI this. I mean, we’ve got more initialisms and acronyms around here that I have to keep up with. And so, it takes work to get the data together. I mean, we had a customer accidentally build a shipment that we covered the other day. Because you got to train people. It’s not like it’s not safe. They don’t know what they’re doing. They’ll mess something up when they go in there. But it’s great.


Michael Caney (38:40):

So, if I can, I’ll tell a story. We just did a 4PL. We weren’t a 4PL when I got here. But I had a customer call and say, “I got a problem. We’re going to market with a new product. The manufacturer was going to do the fulfillment. I don’t know that that’s going to work. I need space somewhere.” “Where’s the manufacturer? Let me draw a circle. What’s a good distribution point?” I know a guy. I have a friend that’s a CEO that runs another warehousing company. I said, “Hey, man. I need 100,000 feet. Do you have it?” So, we put a solution together in another state where we don’t have an operator. My team put all the requirements together, built all the technology requirements, did the whole thing. We got on a conference call every morning with the customer, the provider, and my team. And it’s all in Turvo. They can see all the inbound from the manufacturer. When we suck the inventory in from the third party warehouse into Turvo, they know where everything is. It’s a complete transparent relationship. I think we put that solution together in, like, three or four weeks.

Scott Luton (39:40):

Love it. Living and breathing solution, as you put it. And it’s not just that blue dot visibility. Luis, I want you to weigh in on what Michael shared there. And then, Greg, I’m coming around to get your one only take. Luis, what would you hear Michael say?

Luis Pajares (39:57):

Yeah. I mean, visibility is the symptom. The blue dot is the symptom. The root cause is, again, your data on every segment of every load is in different places, in different systems, whether they’re ERP or TMS or WMS. All that data is fragmented. And, again, if your approach is you architect the ability to collaborate – plan, execute, settle, collaborate – all your data is in one place so it becomes easy.


Luis Pajares (40:29):

The other point is, I know when Michael and I have talked, he says, “Hey. I went to go visit a prospect. And I showed them how we would support their supply chain. And I showed them Turvo. And it was like the light came on.” And it has to be intuitive. It’s got to be really simple for your customers and your carriers to work with you. Because that’s the complexity, you got to get that out of the system.

Scott Luton (41:01):

Greg, I love this embedded element of the relationship I’m hearing that Luis share. And, gosh, can you imagine, getting presented or pitched by Michael and Luis? That is like a one-two punch. We can do whatever you want us to do. Greg, your take?

Greg White (41:17):

Well, I mean, I think they’re doing a great job of leveraging technology to get to that yes, and get there quickly. But I think one of the points that really jumped out at me is what Michael said earlier, and that is, it takes commitment on the side of whoever’s implementing technology. You can’t just plug it in, “This is the technology paradox.” People think they plug in a new technology and all their problems are solved. A new technology does what you want done faster, more effectively, with greater precision. But you have to know what you want done. And you have to come to that conclusion.


Greg White (41:55):

And that’s where I think this collaboration comes into play is because they can help them define what their goals ought to be, not what their actions ought to be, and then work backwards into the actions that reach those goals. And when companies take that perspective of communicating their goals, rather than communicating the how, communicating the what, the outcome they desire, they are a lot, lot more successful and a lot more quickly. And that’s exactly what Luis and Michael are talking about right here.

Scott Luton (42:25):

Well said, Greg. And, you know, it’s not transactional. It is a living and breathing that embedded, and maybe there’s a better word, but that’s what comes to my mind. You know, whatever it takes are kind of attached at the hip. And as Michael said, there is no such thing as a finish line in just by anything these days. So, it’s that living and breathing element based on what the needs of the business are. I love that. I think that’s where some of the best relationships and partnerships are and where they live.


Scott Luton (42:50):

All right. We got to keep going because, for the sake of time, I want to get to this third element, and then we’re going to get into a look ahead. So, I think, Greg, you referenced on the frontend, it is a war for talent. And that phrase was used prior to the pandemic and it has only gotten more challenging. So, Michael, if you could, last week in our pre-show conversation, I wrote down and circled three times when you said Turvo is easy to work with. What does that mean for hiring?

Michael Caney (43:20):

I mean, literally, it’s easy to train people. They have a great knowledge center. Well, somebody will send off in Microsoft teams like, “Hey, do you know how to -” and I’ll go to the Turvo Knowledge Center and, “Let me Google that for you.” And so, it really is easy. It really is easy. It’s easy to train people. We figure out where everything is. The thing about Turvo is it’s not a load board. I have to tell people this that call me and go, “Hey, we’re looking at Turvo.” “Okay. Well, don’t log in looking for your load board with six colors on it.” The intuitive thing about Turvo is it puts the work in front of you that needs to be done. So, you don’t go in and build some stupid pick list and organize your loads. Turvo does that for you. You put your business rules in and it puts the work in front.


Michael Caney (44:03):

The other thing I’ll say too is, technical talent likes working on Turvo. So, if you’re an operator and you’re still running AS400, no developer wants to work on that. They don’t want to work on old tech.

Greg White (44:17):

Most of them aren’t even still alive.

Michael Caney (44:21):

So, when you have an aging tech stack – like, every company’s a technology company, right? It doesn’t matter. You have to be – developers don’t want to work on your stuff. They want to work in modern web applications. And so, we have old stuff, but we have Turvo, too, and Web Hooks. And, again, I’m getting into all these initialisms that I don’t understand. But they like working on it.

Scott Luton (44:44):

Me and you both.

Michael Caney (44:45):

Yeah. But they like working on it. They enjoy the experience of working with an in Turvo, because they can produce a result. They’re not just propping up a dinosaur.

Scott Luton (44:56):

Right. Right. All right. So, it becomes an advantage in that war for talent. Really quick, I want to share some of these comments. We got some great comments. And, Luis, I’m going to come back to you because I want to hear what other folks you’re working with, what some of their feedback has been along these lines. Peter Stangland – Greg, good old friend, Peter Stangland – says, “Great topic. Interesting experts. Supply Chain Now, another interesting topic could be an update on port congestions in the U.S.A .and the driver shortage.” Peter, excellent point. We talk about that a lot. We look forward to reconnecting with you soon.


Scott Luton (45:25):

Tom Valentine says, “Great POV. Data drives decisions.” And we all know how fast Michael and the team is driving. You can’t drive a Ferrari at the speed it’s built for without great data. Let’s see, Sylvia Judy – get this – says, “Greg White’s ‘portals are just static data’ spot on.” She says, Greg, “The agility of information that makes the difference.” Excellent point, Sylvia. We got to have Sylvia back on.

Greg White (45:52):

Sylvia is very precise. Yes, I really appreciate that feedback. Thank you. And her jams and jellies.

Scott Luton (46:02):

That’s right. Michael, we got to hook your team up, because Sylvia is based in Charleston. She is the Eastern Seaboard Queen of Jams and Jellies. We’ll have to make that connection. Okay. Luis, we were talking about the impact on hiring, as Michael said, technical talent likes working on Turvo. What else are you seeing out there? How are you seeing other organizations benefit perhaps from the same thing?

Luis Pajares (46:30):

I think you have to double click on being able to recruit world class talent. And if you’re working on green screens, it’s going to be difficult to do. I’m going to tie it back to when Michael and I first met, it was in July, I think, Michael. And we talked about having to go live in September. I mean, that’s pretty different than what this industry has ever seen being able to stand up an entire technology stack transportation management system and do it in six weeks. The important point that I want to make there is that, if your business is not able to be nimble and adapt to your customer’s need, and your technology is a drag that every time you see an opportunity in your business, and it’s going to take you six months or a year to adapt, you’ve got the wrong technology. And I think that point is, is that, as an operator, you’ve got to not only be able to be nimble, but you have to be evergreen. And that really is going to help in the quality of the people that you hire. And, again, it goes back to that experience that you’re going to be able to give your customer and be able to say yes.

Scott Luton (47:48):

So, not only – I’ll add – you have the wrong technology, but you’re not going to get the right people. And you’re going to certainly be missing business opportunities along the way. So, Luis, great commentary there. Really quick, Tim Ingram says, “Information is okay. But if you can’t make decisions from it, it’s just eye candy.” Excellent point.


Scott Luton (48:09):

So, Greg, it’s Throwback Wednesday. That’s not a thing, but we’re going to make it a thing. We got the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express here. They’re the Intercontinental tag team champions, Michael and Luis. And, Michael, you know what I’m talking about, Ricky Gibson and Robert Morton I think is the right names. Greg, talk to us – you got to be a wrestling fan, I guess, to get that one – of what you’re hearing here.

Michael Caney (48:33):

I think you reached pretty far back there.

Greg White (48:36):

That was pretty far back.

Michael Caney (48:39):

These are like Road Warriors, Legion of Doom.

Scott Luton (48:41):

Oh, that’s a good. Road Warrior Animal and Hawk, right?

Michael Caney (48:45):

Yeah. Like, I could have gone with you, but I have no clue who you’re talking about.

Scott Luton (48:48):

Rock ‘n’ Roll Express. Really? Man, y’all are blowing my mind. We’re going to have talk wrestling on a later show. You know, this is the second time we’ve had Turvo on with someone they’re working with, but common threads are the same, you know, it’s a very practical partnership focused on the things that matter. But what’s your take here, Greg?

Greg White (49:11):

I think they aimed squarely at the problem. Look, I’ve been a shipper. I remember in 1992, when I looked at green screens in 1992, and I thought, “What in the hell is this? A James Bond movie?” I had no idea that people still used green screens 30 years ago. And, here, we are talking about it still. I think that’s utterly ridiculous. I worked with a company that operated on AS400s and I had forgotten that. Literally, I don’t know who still writes RPG anymore. And I remember those scary terms.


Greg White (49:49):

But aside from the modernity of the technology, I think one of the things that both Luis and Michael had touched on here is that, simplicity is what matters. I remember the feeling when I saw green screens and when I saw newer technologies, I didn’t care how it worked. I just cared that it worked. And that it worked meant that I didn’t have to do a lot. Computers did their computer things. I was able to do my human things. And we got the result that we wanted.


Greg White (50:20):

And having been a technologist, as many of our audience know, I can tell you that it is incredibly complex to create a solution that is so sophisticated, that it seems simple to the user. And that’s a critical aspect of what we’re doing because these generations that will come in and replace the 3.6 million baby boomers who’ve left the workforce in the last year, they don’t care how it works. They just care that it works. And it works means it essentially does it for you. And once you’ve got a technology set up like that, and once you’ve got it built to a certain level of sophistication, it can do that. And we’re talking about things like predictive or prescriptive analytics here. We’re talking about the solution, telling you what needs to be done, not just showing you what went wrong. And I think that’s an important aspect of how companies in this industry, people in this industry, need to change their perspective to expect that. I mean, that is what’s giving Michael and the folks at Port City Logistics such a huge advantage, is, they can expect it and they can get it.

Scott Luton (51:29):

All right. We got a bunch of comments coming in. A bunch of comments from Pastor Greg White, First Church of Supply Chain. You’re baptizing folks here. Let’s see, Sam says – and I can’t remember if Michael or if Luis said this – “We’re not propping up a dinosaur.” That’s such a powerful thing. And especially if you’re hiring talent, doesn’t want to prop up a dinosaur is one of y’all talked about. Tom Valentine says you’re all awesome. Sylvia says, “Cobalt and Pascal – oh, my God – I’m dying here.”


Greg White (51:58):

Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Scott Luton (52:00):

Michael Avery says, “If the people can’t/won’t use it, then it’s not worth the investment.” Excellent point, Michael. Hope this finds you well. Okay. We’ve gotten into so much. We’re almost out of time. We’ll have to have y’all back on. Really quick, Michael, if you know what Reader’s Digest is, in a nutshell, really quick, what’s next for the partnership? Because I want to get to a resource we got. And then, folks, I want to make sure they know how to connect with both of y’all. So, what’s next?

Michael Caney (52:29):

Yeah. I mean, I think the next things for us is, we’re going to just continue to iterate, Luis alluded to we’re young in our relationship and we’ve done a lot in a really short amount of time. We still have a long way to go. I mean, I think for us, everything is about collaboration. We’ve got a team that builds a lot of our own automation around Turvo, because we can. And Turvo allows us to be able to do that. So, we have proprietary business rules and things that happen that have nothing to do with Turvo. But everything for us is about using Turvo to build external visibility and transparency for our customers and give them a good experience.

Scott Luton (53:05):

Love that. And I was referencing the six weeks, six weeks, at the frontend of y’all’s relationship. Especially considering the scope, three million square feet, holy cow, moving mountains for sure. Okay. So, with the comments not working, and, again, we’re going to get on the horn of StreamYard. We’re going to figure that out. But we love all the comments that have come in. A lot of good ones here. Amanda, Clay, you name it, Chantel, Catherine, thanks for what you’re doing on the production side. We’ve got a great resource that we want to drop in there, the Logistics Success Playbook from our friends at Turvo. We want to make it really easy for folks to access that with one click and then be able to download that. It’ll reiterate some of the things we’re talking about here today. And it should be a helpful resource as we’re all navigating this obstacle course that is global supply chain here in 2022. Okay. So, let’s make sure, Greg, folks know how to connect with Michael and Luis, the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express of global supply chain. I’m sticking with it. I’m sticking with it.

Greg White (54:05):

We’re all going to Wikipedia after this, I guarantee it.

Scott Luton (54:08):

All right. Fair enough, Michael, how can folks connect with you and the organization that’s on the move, Port City Logistics?

Michael Caney (54:16):

Yeah. I give all of my hot sports opinions on freight technology and operating companies on Twitter, follow me there. And LinkedIn as always.

Scott Luton (54:27):

It’s just that easy. And the URL, because my hunch is y’all doing a little bit of hiring. What’s the URL for folks to learn more about the organization?

Michael Caney (54:34):

Scott Luton (54:36):

It’s just that easy. I mean, we’re going to make it one click away in the show notes, folks. And definitely, I’m telling y’all, what you see here is the real deal. The behind the scenes conversations are the same way, you want to be around people that tell it like it is and be frank. And, hey, I do all these shows with no one sitting beside me, so it changes your perspective on life, for sure. So, make sure you connect with Michael and follow him there.


Scott Luton (54:58):

All right. Luis, I tell you, you’ve got to have one of the best jobs in the world because you’ve got something that your customers are singing praises of and helps fuel their growth. And it’s very competitive times. So, how can folks connect?

Luis Pajares (55:12):

I’m very, very fortunate. I never forget that. Yes. Please, visit Turvo at And to connect with me, I’m on LinkedIn. And I really appreciate, you know, the time that we’ve had today.

Scott Luton (55:27):

I have too. Greg, I enjoyed the pre-show conversation. I got a lot out of that. I got a lot out of what they shared here today. We got a great job, too, don’t we, Greg?

Greg White (55:38):

We sure do. I mean, we get to meet people like this all the time, right? People who are really solving problems in supply chain, I got to tell you, can empathize with where Luis is. I always felt really good as a technology provider. I could sleep well at night knowing that we were delivering for our clients. Luis, I’m sure sleeps well at night because, obviously, they’ve helped Port City rapidly expand and build this business and serve the customers that they are so dedicated to. Thanks.

Luis Pajares (56:08):

Greg, I don’t sleep well at night because I’m usually worried about my customers.

Greg White (56:15):

As I was saying that, I was thinking, “What if he is somebody who doesn’t sleep well?”

Scott Luton (56:19):

Well, let’s flip it. Let’s flip it.

Greg White (56:22):

But you could sleep well if you would.

Scott Luton (56:23):

Luis’s customers sleep well at night.


Greg White (56:27):

There you go.


Scott Luton (56:28):

And Michael’s customers, I bet, sleep well at night. So, you heard the real deal here today.

Greg White (56:33):

I’m sleeping well at night.

Scott Luton (56:35):

That’s right. All right. We’ve been chatting with Michael Caney, Chief Growth Office with Port City Logistics, and Luis Pajares, Chief Customer Officer with Turvo. Big thanks. We hope to have y’all both back with us again soon. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Luis.


Greg White (56:49):



Luis Pajares (00:56:51):

Thank you. Thank you, Michael.


Scott Luton (56:53):

So, that’s the first time I think the swoosh was fooled there. Greg, I think the swoosh was fooled. It waited on one last word from Luis.


Greg White (56:59):

Yeah. I think we waited for thanks for coming, Michael.

Scott Luton (57:02):

Absolutely. It’s important. The swoosh is a conscientious, very kind and considerate mechanism, isn’t it, Greg?

Greg White (57:09):

Well, it’s AI. It knows when somebody has something important to say, actual intelligence.

Scott Luton (57:15):

All right. So, folks, working our way through that conversation. And, again, I love it whether we’re, you know, on a livestream or a podcast or webinar, whatever live, where the world can see us. And it’s the same conversation that we have outside of that, where it is just breaking bread with folks or pre-show, you name it, it’s the same deal. You spoke a little bit to it, that transparency, that level of authenticity, that is what’s fueling companies that are doing supply chain different in this day and age. Would you agree?

Greg White (57:52):

Yeah. I mean, it’s really easy to be authentic when you’re actually delivering results. I mean, having been in technology – I feel like I’ve said way too many times in this episode – for a long time, it was easy to tell when someone was comfortable that they were going to deliver the result that they promised and when they weren’t. And we were always a hundred percent comfortable. You can tell that Luis – even though he doesn’t sleep well, but I’m sure somebody can help him with that – that he is 100 percent comfortable that he’s delivering. And, obviously, Michael is. I mean, he gave us so many stories about the great things that they are doing for their shippers in such a short period of time. It’s unbelievable, 500,000 square feet in seven days. I mean, it’s incredible.

Scott Luton (58:40):

It’s remarkable. So, folks, you’re going to want to connect with Michael and Luis do that and also their organizations, and Excellent episode, Greg. Man, we had a dynamic panel here today. Three folks that tell us it like it is. Greg, it’s always a pleasure to have these conversations with you. Big thanks again to our production team, Amanda, and Chantel, and Catherine, and Clay. And, folks, thanks for all the comments. We’re going to be on the horn with StreamYard, we’re going to get that worked out so we’re back to normal. But I really appreciate all the comments that came in from the sky boxes. Greg, we’ll look forward to having Michael and Luis back with us.


Scott Luton (59:15):

But, hey, if folks take anything away from this conversation, Scott Luton challenging all of y’all, do good, give forward, be the change that’s needed. And on that note, we’ll see next time right back here on Supply Chain Now. Thanks everybody.

Greg White (59:26):


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Luis Pajares is the Chief Customer Officer at Turvo. He ensures a deep understanding of each customer’s business to best serve them with appropriate solutions that fuel success. Luis previously served as the Chief Revenue Officer at Turvo, where he led the growing sales and marketing teams. Luis Pajares has a proven track record of success with over 30 years in software and Saas solutions in both large publicly traded and pre-IPO companies. He served as Group Vice President for Oracle Communications and was a senior member of the management team responsible for strategy and execution. Prior to Oracle, Luis led the transition of Tekelec, a telecommunications company, from a publicly-traded company into private equity, later culminated by the Oracle acquisition. Additionally, Luis led worldwide sales for Airvana, a provider of mobile IP solutions, where he helped take the company public in 2008. From 1999 to 2003, Luis was Sr. Vice President at Inet Technology, a provider of business and operations management solutions, where he managed the Company’s sales, consulting, customer service, product line management and marketing organizations. Luis helped the company grow sales to over 500+ customers on six continents. Prior to Inet, Luis held a general manager role overseeing product development, finance, and customer functions at Alcatel where he responsible for Alcatel’s business in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, and Canada. He came to Alcatel as part of the DSC acquisition where he was Vice President of Mobile Networks. Luis began his career in communications at Texas Instruments where he was responsible for negotiating defense contracts. He then moved to NEC America where he held various sales and management positions responsible for selling to enterprise, education, and service provider customers. Luis holds a B.A. in Economics from the University of Florida and an MBA from the University of Dallas. Luis lives in Dallas, Texas. Connect with Luis on LinkedIn.

Michael Caney is the Chief Growth Officer at Port City Logistics in Savannah, GA where he is responsible for driving the Company’s growth initiatives, focusing on geographic expansion and overall growth strategy. In this role, he oversees the Technology, Customer Experience, Business Development, Integrated Capacity Solutions, and Freight Operations teams. Michael is passionate about bringing together freight, freight technology, and logistics leaders to grow the 3PL market. Michael began working in the Supply Chain & Logistics industry in 2004 and has held several executive and senior leadership roles where he has been able to achieve success in revenue and profit growth. Connect with Michael on LinkedIn.


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From humble beginnings working the import docks, representing Fortune 500 giants, Ford, Michelin Tire, and Black & Decker; to Amazon technology patent holder and Nordstrom Change Leader, Kimberly Reuter has designed, implemented, and optimized best-in-class, highly scalable global logistics and retail operations all over the world. Kimberly’s ability to set strategic vision supported by bomb-proof processes, built on decades of hands-on experience, has elevated her to legendary status. Sought after by her peers and executives for her intellectual capital and keen insights, Kimberly is a thought leader in the retail logistics industry.

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Kristi Porter

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Kristi Porter is VP of Sales and Marketing at Vector Global Logistics, a company that is changing the world through supply chain. In her role, she oversees all marketing efforts and supports the sales team in doing what they do best. In addition to this role, she is the Chief Do-Gooder at Signify, which assists nonprofits and social impact companies through copywriting and marketing strategy consulting. She has almost 20 years of professional experience, and loves every opportunity to help people do more good.

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Sofia Rivas Herrera

Host, Supply Chain Now en Espanol

Sofia Rivas Herrera is a Mexican Industrial Engineer from Tecnologico de Monterrey class 2019. Upon graduation, she earned a scholarship to study MIT’s Graduate Certificate in Logistics and Supply Chain Management and graduated as one of the Top 3 performers of her class in 2020. She also has a multicultural background due to her international academic experiences at Singapore Management University and Kühne Logistics University in Hamburg. Sofia self-identifies as a Supply Chain enthusiast & ambassador sharing her passion for the field in her daily life.

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Demo Perez

Host, Supply Chain Now en Espanol

Demo Perez started his career in 1997 in the industry by chance when a relative asked him for help for two just weeks putting together an operation for FedEx Express at the Colon Free Zone, an area where he was never been but accepted the challenge. Worked in all roles possible from a truck driver to currier to a sales representative, helped the brand introduction, market share growth and recognition in the Colon Free Zone, at the end of 1999 had the chance to meet and have a chat with Fred Smith ( FedEx CEO), joined another company in 2018 who took over the FedEx operations as Operations and sales manager, in 2004 accepted the challenge from his company to leave the FedEx operations and business to take over the operation and business of DHL Express, his major competitor and rival so couldn’t say no, by changing completely its operation model in the Free Zone. In 2005 started his first entrepreneurial journey by quitting his job and joining two friends to start a Freight Forwarding company. After 8 months was recruited back by his company LSP with the General Manager role with the challenge of growing the company and make it fully capable warehousing 3PL. By 2009 joined CSCMP and WERC and started his journey of learning and growing his international network and high-level learning. In 2012 for the first time joined a local association ( the Panama Maritime Chamber) and worked in the country’s first Logistics Strategy plan, joined and lead other associations ending as president of the Panama Logistics Council in 2017. By finishing his professional mission at LSP with a company that was 8 times the size it was when accepted the role as GM with so many jobs generated and several young professionals coached, having great financial results, took the decision to move forward and start his own business from scratch by the end of 2019. with a friend and colleague co-founded IPL Group a company that started as a boutique 3PL and now is gearing up for the post-Covid era by moving to the big leagues.

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Kim Winter

Host, Supply Chain Now

The founder of Logistics Executive Group, Kim Winter delivers 40 years of executive leadership experience spanning Executive Search & Recruitment, Leadership Development, Executive Coaching, Corporate Advisory, Motivational Speaking, Trade Facilitation and across the Supply Chain, Logistics, 3PL, E-commerce, Life Science, Cold Chain, FMCG, Retail, Maritime, Defence, Aviation, Resources, and Industrial sectors. Operating from the company’s global offices, he is a regular contributor of thought leadership to industry and media, is a professional Master of Ceremonies, and is frequently invited to chair international events.

He is a Board member of over a dozen companies throughout APAC, India, and the Middle East, a New Zealand citizen, he holds formal resident status in Australia and the UAE, and is the Australia & New Zealand representative for the UAE Government-owned Jebel Ali Free Zone (JAFZA), the Middle East’s largest Economic Free Zone.

A triathlete and ex-professional rugby player, Kim is a qualified (IECL Sydney) executive coach and the Founder / Chairman of the successful not for profit humanitarian organization, Oasis Africa (www., which has provided freedom from poverty through education to over 8000 mainly orphaned children in East Africa’s slums. Kim holds an MBA and BA from Massey & Victoria Universities (NZ).

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Adrian Purtill

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Adrian Purtill serves as Business Development Manager at Vector Global Logistics, where he consults with importers and exporters in various industries to match their specific shipping requirements with the most effective supply chain solutions. Vector Global Logistics is an asset-free, multi-modal logistics company that provides exceptional sea freight, air freight, truck, rail, general logistic services and consulting for our clients. Our highly trained and professional team is committed to providing creative and effective solutions, always exceeding our customer’s expectations and fostering long-term relationships. With more than 20+ years of experience in both strategy consulting and logistics, Vector Global Logistics is your best choice to proactively minimize costs while having an exceptional service level.

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Kevin Brown

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Kevin Brown is the Director of Business Development for Vector Global Logistics.  He has a dedicated interest in Major Account Management, Enterprise Sales, and Corporate Leadership. He offers 25 years of exceptional experience and superior performance in the sales of Logistics, Supply Chain, and Transportation Management. Kevin is a dynamic, high-impact, sales executive and corporate leader who has consistently exceeded corporate goals. He effectively coordinates multiple resources to solution sell large complex opportunities while focusing on corporate level contacts across the enterprise. His specialties include targeting and securing key accounts by analyzing customer’s current business processes and developing solutions to meet their corporate goals. Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn.

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Jose Miguel Irarrazaval

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Jose Manuel Irarrazaval es parte del equipo de Vector Global Logistics Chile. José Manuel es un gerente experimentado con experiencia en finanzas corporativas, fusiones y adquisiciones, financiamiento y reestructuración, inversión directa y financiera, tanto en Chile como en el exterior. José Manuel tiene su MBA de la Universidad de Pennsylvania- The Wharton School. Conéctese con Jose Manuel en LinkedIn.

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Vicki White


Vicki has a long history of rising to challenges and keeping things up and running. First, she supported her family’s multi-million dollar business as controller for 12 years, beginning at the age of 17. Then, she worked as an office manager and controller for a wholesale food broker. But her biggest feat? Serving as the chief executive officer of her household, while her entrepreneur husband travelled the world extensively. She fed, nurtured, chaperoned, and chauffeured three daughters all while running a newsletter publishing business and remaining active in her community as a Stephen’s Minister, Sunday school teacher, school volunteer, licensed realtor and POA Board president (a title she holds to this day). A force to be reckoned with in the office, you might think twice before you meet Vicki on the tennis court! When she’s not keeping the books balanced at Supply Chain Now or playing tennis matches, you can find Vicki spending time with her husband Greg, her 4 fur babies, gardening, cleaning (yes, she loves to clean!) and learning new things.

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Allison Krache Giddens has been with Win-Tech, a veteran-owned small business and aerospace precision machine shop, for 15 years, recently buying the company from her mentor and Win-Tech’s Founder, Dennis Winslow. She and her business partner, John Hudson now serve as Co-Presidents, leading the 33-year old company through the pandemic.

She holds undergraduate degrees in psychology and criminal justice from the University of Georgia, a Masters in Conflict Management from Kennesaw State University, a Masters in Manufacturing from Georgia Institute of Technology, and a Certificate of Finance from the University of Georgia. She also holds certificates in Google Analytics, event planning, and Cybersecurity Risk Management from Harvard online. Allison founded the Georgia Chapter of Women in Manufacturing and currently serves as Treasurer. She serves on the Chattahoochee Technical College Foundation Board as its Secretary, the liveSAFE Resources Board of Directors as Resource Development Co-Chair, and on the Leadership Cobb Alumni Association Board as Membership Chair and is also a member of Cobb Executive Women. She is on the Board for the Cobb Chamber of Commerce’s Northwest Area Councils. Allison runs The Dave Krache Foundation, a non-profit that helps pay sports fees for local kids in need.

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Billy Taylor


Billy Taylor is a Proven Business Excellence Practitioner and Leadership Guru with over 25 years leading operations for a Fortune 500 company, Goodyear. He is also the CEO of LinkedXL (Excellence), a Business Operating Systems Architecting Firm dedicated to implementing sustainable operating systems that drive sustainable results. Taylor’s achievements in the industry have made him a Next Generational Lean pacesetter with significant contributions.

An American business executive, Taylor has made a name for himself as an innovative and energetic industry professional with an indispensable passion for his craft of operational excellence. His journey started many years ago and has worked with renowned corporations such as The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. (GT) leading multi-site operations. With over 3 decades of service leading North America operations, he is experienced in a deeply rooted process driven approach in customer service, process integrity for sustainability.

A disciple of continuous improvement, Taylor’s love for people inspires commitment to helping others achieve their full potential. He is a dynamic speaker and hosts "The Winning Link," a popular podcast centered on business and leadership excellence with the #1 rated Supply Chain Now Network. As a leadership guru, Taylor has earned several invitations to universities, international conferences, global publications, and the U.S. Army to demonstrate how to achieve and sustain effective results through cultural acceptance and employee ownership. Leveraging the wisdom of his business acumen, strong influence as a speaker and podcaster Taylor is set to release "The Winning Link" book under McGraw Hill publishing in 2022. The book is a how-to manual to help readers understand the management of business interactions while teaching them how to Deine, Align, and Execute Winning in Business.

A servant leader, Taylor, was named by The National Diversity Council as one of the Top 100 Diversity Officers in the country in 2021. He features among Oklahoma's Most Admired CEOs and maintains key leadership roles with the Executive Advisory Board for The Shingo Institute "The Nobel Prize of Operations" and The Association of Manufacturing Excellence (AME); two world-leading organizations for operational excellence, business development, and cultural learning.  He is also an Independent Director for the M-D Building Products Board, a proud American manufacturer of quality products since 1920.

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Tandreia Bellamy


Tandreia Bellamy retired as the Vice President of Industrial Engineering for UPS Supply Chain Solutions which included the Global Logistics, Global Freight Forwarding and UPS Freight business units. She was responsible for operations strategy and planning, asset management, forecasting, and technology tool development to optimize sustainable efficiency while driving world class service.

Tandreia held similar positions at the business unit level for Global Logistics and Global Freight forwarding. As the leader of the Global Logistics engineering function, she directed all industrial engineering activies related to distribution, service parts logistics (post-sales support), and mail innovations (low cost, light weight shipping partnership with the USPS). Between these roles Tandreia helped to establish the Advanced Technology Group which was formed to research and develop cutting edge solutions focused on reducing reliance on manual labor.

Tandreia began her career in 1986 as a part-time hourly manual package handling employee. She spent the great majority of her career in the small package business unit which is responsible for the pick-up, sort, transport and delivery of packages domestically. She held various positions in Industrial Engineering, Marketing, Inside and On-road operations in Central Florida before transferring to Atlanta for a position in Corporate Product Development and Corporate Industrial Engineering. Tandreia later held IE leadership roles in Nebraska, Minnesota and Chicago. In her final role in small package she was an IE VP responsible for all aspects of IE, technology support and quality for the 25 states on the western half of the country.
Tandreia is currently a Director for the University of Central Florida (UCF) Foundation Board and also serves on their Dean’s Advisory Board for the College of Engineering and Computer Science. Previously Tandreia served on the Executive Advisory Board for Virginia Tech’s IE Department and the Association for Supply Chain Management. She served on the Board of Trustees for ChildServ (a Chicago child and family services non-profit) and also served on the Texas A&M and Tuskegee Engineering Advisory Boards. In 2006 she was named Business Advisor of the Year by INROADS, in 2009 she was recognized as a Technology All-Star at the Women of Color in STEM conference and in 2019 she honored as a UCF Distinguished Aluma by the Department of Industrial Engineering and Management Systems.

Tandreia holds a bachelor’s degree in Industrial Engineering from Stanford University and a master’s degree in Industrial Engineering and Management Systems from UCF. Her greatest accomplishment, however, is being the proud mother of two college students, Ruby (24) and Anthony (22).

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Marty Parker


Marty Parker serves as both the CEO & Founder of Adæpt Advising and an award-winning Senior Lecturer (Teaching Professor) in Supply Chain and Operations Management at the University of Georgia. He has 30 years of experience as a COO, CMO, CSO (Chief Strategy Officer), VP of Operations, VP of Marketing and Process Engineer. He founded and leads UGA’s Supply Chain Advisory Board, serves as the Academic Director of UGA’s Leaders Academy, and serves on multiple company advisory boards including the Trucking Profitability Strategies Conference, Zion Solutions Group and Carlton Creative Company.

Marty enjoys helping people and companies be successful. Through UGA, Marty is passionate about his students, helping them network and find internships and jobs. He does this through several hundred one-on-one zoom meetings each year with his students and former students. Through Adæpt Advising, Marty has organized an excellent team of affiliates that he works with to help companies grow and succeed. He does this by helping c-suite executives improve their skills, develop better leaders, engage their workforce, improve processes, and develop strategic plans with detailed action steps and financial targets. Marty believes that excellence in supply chain management comes from the understanding the intersection of leadership, culture, and technology, working across all parts of the organization to meet customer needs, maximize profit and minimize costs.

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Laura Lopez

Marketing Coordinator

Laura Lopez serves as our Supply Chain Now Marketing Coordinator. She graduated from Instituto Tecnológico y de Estudios Superiores de Occidente in Mexico with a degree in marketing. Laura loves everything digital because she sees the potential it holds for companies in the marketing industry. Her passion for creativity and thinking outside the box led her to pursue a career in marketing. With experience in fields like accounting, digital marketing, and restaurants, she clearly enjoys taking on challenges. Laura lives the best of both worlds - you'll either catch her hanging out with her friends soaking up the sun in Mexico or flying out to visit her family in California!

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Jake Barr


An acknowledged industry leader, Jake Barr now serves as CEO for BlueWorld Supply Chain Consulting, providing support to a cross section of Fortune 500 companies such as Cargill, Caterpillar, Colgate, Dow/Dupont, Firmenich, 3M, Merck, Bayer/Monsanto, Newell Brands, Kimberly Clark, Nestle, PepsiCo, Pfizer, Sanofi, Estee Lauder and Coty among others. He's also devoted time to engagements in public health sector work with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. At P&G, he managed the breakthrough delivery of an E2E (End to End) Planning Transformation effort, creating control towers which now manage the daily business globally. He is recognized as the architect for P&G’s demand driven supply chain strategy – referenced as a “Consumer Driven Supply Chain” transformation. Jake began his career with P&G in Finance in Risk Analysis and then moved into Operations. He has experience in building supply network capability globally through leadership assignments in Asia, Latin America, North America and the Middle East. He currently serves as a Research Associate for MIT; a member of Supply Chain Industry Advisory Council; Member of Gartner’s Supply Chain Think Tank; Consumer Goods “League of Leaders“; and a recipient of the 2015 - 2021 Supply Chain “Pro’s to Know” Award. He has been recognized as a University of Kentucky Fellow.

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Marcia Williams


Marcia Williams, Managing Partner of USM Supply Chain, has 18 years of experience in Supply Chain, with expertise in optimizing Supply Chain-Finance Planning (S&OP/ IBP) at Large Fast-Growing CPGs for greater profitability and improved cash flows. Marcia has helped mid-sized and large companies including Lindt Chocolates, Hershey, and Coty. She holds an MBA from Michigan State University and a degree in Accounting from Universidad de la Republica, Uruguay (South America). Marcia is also a Forbes Council Contributor based out of New York, and author of the book series Supply Chains with Maria in storytelling style. A recent speaker’s engagement is Marcia TEDx Talk: TEDxMSU - How Supply Chain Impacts You: A Transformational Journey.

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Luisa Garcia

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Luisa Garcia is a passionate Marketer from Lagos de Moreno based in Aguascalientes. She holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from Universidad Autonoma de Aguascalientes, Mexico. She specializes in brand development at any stage, believing that a brand is more than just a name or image—it’s an unforgettable experience. Her expertise helps brands achieve their dreams and aspirations, making a lasting impact. Currently working at Vector Global Logistics in the Marketing team and as podcast coordinator of Logistics With Purpose®. Luisa believes that purpose-driven decisions will impact results that make a difference in the world.

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Astrid Aubert

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Astrid Aubert was born in Guadalajara, she is 39 years old and has had the opportunity to live in many places. She studied communication and her professional career has been in Trade Marketing for global companies such as Pepsico and Mars. She currently works as Marketing Director Mexico for Vector Global Logistics. She is responsible for internal communications and marketing strategy development for the logistics industry. She is a mother of two girls, married and lives in Monterrey. She defines herself as a creative and innovative person, and enjoys traveling and cooking a lot.

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Constantine Limberakis


Constantine Limberakis is a thought leader in the area of procurement and supply management. He has over 20 years of international experience, playing strategic roles in a wide spectrum of organizations related to analyst advisory, consulting, product marketing, product development, and market research.Throughout his career, he's been passionate about engaging global business leaders and the broader analyst and technology community with strategic content, speaking engagements, podcasts, research, webinars, and industry articles.Constantine holds a BA in History from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and an MBA in Finance & Marketing / Masters in Public & International Affairs from the University of Pittsburgh.

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Scott W. Luton

Founder, CEO, & Host

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Greg White

Principal & Host

When rapid-growth technology companies, venture capital and private equity firms are looking for advisory, they call Greg – a founder, board director, advisor and catalyst of disruptive B2B technology and supply chain. An insightful visionary, Greg guides founders, investors and leadership teams in creating breakthroughs to gain market exposure and momentum – increasing overall company esteem and valuation.

Greg is a founder himself, creating Blue Ridge Solutions, a Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader in cloud-native supply chain applications, and bringing to market Curo, a field service management solution. He has also held leadership roles with Servigistics (PTC) and E3 Corporation (JDA/Blue Yonder). As a principal and host at Supply Chain Now, Greg helps guide the company’s strategic direction, hosts industry leader discussions, community livestreams, and all in addition to executive producing and hosting his original YouTube channel and podcast, TEChquila Sunrise.

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Chris Barnes

Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain is Boring

Talk about world-class: Chris is one of the few professionals in the world to hold CPIM-F, CLTD-F and CSCP-F designations from ASCM/APICS. He’s also the APICS coach – and our resident Supply Chain Doctor. When he’s not hosting programs with Supply Chain Now, he’s sharing supply chain knowledge on the APICS Coach Youtube channel or serving as a professional education instructor for the Georgia Tech Supply Chain & Logistic Institute’s Supply Chain Management (SCM) program and University of Tennessee-Chattanooga Center for Professional Education courses.

Chris earned a BS in Industrial Engineering from Bradley University, an MBA with emphasis in Industrial Psychology from the University of West Florida, and is a Doctoral in Supply Chain Management candidate.

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Tyler Ward

Director of Sales

Tyler Ward serves as Supply Chain Now's Director of Sales. Born and raised in Mid-Atlantic, Tyler is a proud graduate of Shippensburg University where he earned his degree in Communications. After college, he made his way to the beautiful state of Oregon, where he now lives with his wife and daughter.

With over a decade of experience in sales, Tyler has a proven track record of exceeding targets and leading high-performing teams. He credits his success to his ability to communicate effectively with customers and team members alike, as well as his strategic thinking and problem-solving skills.

When he's not closing deals, you can find Tyler on the links or cheering on his favorite football and basketball teams. He also enjoys spending time with his family, playing pick-up basketball, and traveling back to Ocean City, Maryland, his favorite place!

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Kevin L. Jackson

Host of Digital Transformers

Kevin L. Jackson is a globally recognized Thought Leader, Industry Influencer and Founder/Author of the award winning “Cloud Musings” blog.  He has also been recognized as a “Top 5G Influencer” (Onalytica 2019, Radar 2020), a “Top 50 Global Digital Transformation Thought Leader” (Thinkers 360 2019) and provides strategic consulting and integrated social media services to AT&T, Intel, Broadcom, Ericsson and other leading companies. Mr. Jackson’s commercial experience includes Vice President J.P. Morgan Chase, Worldwide Sales Executive for IBM and SAIC (Engility) Director Cloud Solutions. He has served on teams that have supported digital transformation projects for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the US Intelligence Community.  Kevin’s formal education includes a MS Computer Engineering from Naval Postgraduate School; MA National Security & Strategic Studies from Naval War College; and a BS Aerospace Engineering from the United States Naval Academy. Internationally recognizable firms that have sponsored articles authored by him include CiscoMicrosoft, Citrix and IBM.  Books include “Click to Transform” (Leaders Press, 2020), “Architecting Cloud Computing Solutions” (Packt, 2018), and “Practical Cloud Security: A Cross Industry View” (Taylor & Francis, 2016). He also delivers online training through Tulane UniversityO’Reilly MediaLinkedIn Learning, and Pluralsight.  Mr. Jackson retired from the U.S. Navy in 1994, earning specialties in Space Systems EngineeringCarrier Onboard Delivery Logistics and carrier-based Airborne Early Warning and Control. While active, he also served with the National Reconnaissance Office, Operational Support Office, providing tactical support to Navy and Marine Corps forces worldwide.

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Enrique Alvarez

Host of Logistics with Purpose and Supply Chain Now en Español

Enrique serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials, and Private Banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales, and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy, and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has an MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean, and he also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people, and spending time with his wife and two kids, Emma and Enrique.

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Kelly Barner

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Kelly is the Owner and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point and MyPurchasingCenter. She has been in procurement since 2003, starting as a practitioner and then as the Associate Director of Consulting at Emptoris. She has covered procurement news, events, publications, solutions, trends, and relevant economics at Buyers Meeting Point since 2009. Kelly is also the General Manager at Art of Procurement and Business Survey Chair for the ISM-New York Report on Business. Kelly has her MBA from Babson College as well as an MS in Library and Information Science from Simmons College and she has co-authored three books: ‘Supply Market Intelligence for Procurement Professionals’, ‘Procurement at a Crossroads’, and ‘Finance Unleashed’.

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Mary Kate Soliva

Host, Veteran Voices

Mary Kate Soliva is a veteran of the US Army and cofounder of the Guam Human Rights Initiative. She is currently in the Doctor of Criminal Justice program at Saint Leo University. She is passionate about combating human trafficking and has spent the last decade conducting training for military personnel and the local community.

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Amanda Luton

Vice President, Production

Amanda is a production and marketing veteran and entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and organizations including Von Maur, Anthropologie, AmericasMart Atlanta, and Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. Amanda currently manages, produces, and develops modern digital content for Supply Chain Now and their clients. Amanda has previously served as the VP of Information Systems and Webmaster on the Board of Directors for APICS Savannah, and founded and managed her own successful digital marketing firm, Magnolia Marketing Group. When she’s not leading the Supply Chain Now production team, you can find Amanda in the kitchen, reading, listening to podcasts, or enjoying time with family.

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Clay Phillips

Business Development Manager

Clay is passionate about two things: supply chain and the marketing that goes into it. Recently graduated with a degree in marketing at the University of Georgia, Clay got his start as a journalism major and inaugural member of the Owl’s football team at Kennesaw State University – but quickly saw tremendous opportunity in the Terry College of Business. He’s already putting his education to great use at Supply Chain Now, assisting with everything from sales and brand strategy to media production. Clay has contributed to initiatives such as our leap into video production, the guest blog series, and boosting social media presence, and after nearly two years in Supply Chain Now’s Marketing Department, Clay now heads up partnership and sales initiatives with the help of the rest of the Supply Chain Now sales team.

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Trisha Cordes

Administrative Assistant

Trisha is new to the supply chain industry – but not to podcasting. She’s an experienced podcast manager and virtual assistant who also happens to have 20 years of experience as an elementary school teacher. It’s safe to say, she’s passionate about helping people, and she lives out that passion every day with the Supply Chain Now team, contributing to scheduling and podcast production.

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Chantel King

Social Media Manager

My name is Chantel King and I am the Social Media Specialist at Supply Chain Now. My job is to make sure our audience is engaged and educated on the abundant amount of information the supply chain industry has to offer.

Social Media and Communications has been my niche ever since I graduated from college at The Academy of Art University in San Francisco. No, I am not a West Coast girl. I was born and raised in New Jersey, but my travel experience goes way beyond the garden state. My true passion is in creating editorial and graphic content that influences others to be great in whatever industry they are in. I’ve done this by working with lifestyle, financial, and editorial companies by providing resources to enhance their businesses.

Another passion of mine is trying new things. Whether it’s food, an activity, or a sport. I would like to say that I am an adventurous Taurus that never shies away from a new quest or challenge.

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Lori Sofian

Marketing Coordinator

Lori is currently completing a degree in marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing at the University of Georgia. When she’s not supporting the marketing efforts at Supply Chain Now, you can find her at music festivals – or working toward her dream goal of a fashion career. Lori is involved in many extracurricular activities and appreciates all the learning experiences UGA has brought her.

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Katherine Hintz

Director, Customer Experience

Katherine is a marketing professional and MBA candidate who strives to unite her love of people with a passion for positive experiences. Having a diverse background, which includes nonprofit work with digital marketing and start-ups, she serves as a leader who helps people live their most creative lives by cultivating community, order, collaboration, and respect. With equal parts creativity and analytics, she brings a unique skill set which fosters refining, problem solving, and connecting organizations with their true vision. In her free time, you can usually find her looking for her cup of coffee, playing with her puppy Charlie, and dreaming of her next road trip.

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Mary Kate Love

Chief of Staff & Host

Mary Kate Love is currently the VP of marketing at Supply Chain Now focused on brand strategy and audience + revenue growth. Mary Kate’s career is a testament to her versatility and innovative spirit: she has experience in start-ups, venture capital, and building innovation initiatives from the ground up: she previously helped lead the build-out of the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific and before that, MxD (Manufacturing times Digital): the Department of Defense’s digital manufacturing innovation center. Mary Kate has a passion for taking complicated ideas and turning them into reality: she was one of the first team members at MxD and the first team member at the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific.

Mary Kate dedicates her extra time to education and mentorship: she was one of the founding Board Members for Women Influence Chicago and led an initiative for a city-wide job shadow day for young women across Chicago tech companies and was previously on the Board of Directors at St. Laurence High School in Chicago, Young Irish Fellowship Board and the UN Committee for Women. Mary Kate is the founder of National Supply Chain Day and enjoys co-hosting podcasts at Supply Chain Now. Mary Kate is from the south side of Chicago, a mom of two baby boys, and an avid 16-inch softball player. She holds a BS in Political Science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

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Joshua Miranda

Marketing Specialist

Joshua is a student from Institute of Technology and Higher Education of Monterrey Campus Guadalajara in Communication and Digital Media. His experience ranges from Plug and Play México, DearDoc, and Nissan México creating unique social media marketing campaigns and graphics design. Joshua helps to amplify the voice of supply chain here at Supply Chain Now by assisting in graphic design, content creation, asset logistics, and more.  In his free time he likes to read and write short stories as well as watch movies and television series.

Donna Krache

Director of Communications and Executive Producer

Donna Krache is a former CNN executive producer who has won several awards in journalism and communication, including three Peabodys.  She has 30 years’ experience in broadcast and digital journalism. She led the first production team at CNN to convert its show to a digital platform. She has authored many articles for CNN and other media outlets. She taught digital journalism at Georgia State University and Arizona State University. Krache holds a bachelor’s degree in government from the College of William and Mary and a master’s degree in curriculum and instruction from the University of New Orleans. She is a serious sports fan who loves the Braves. She is president of the Dave Krache Foundation. Named in honor of her late husband, this non-profit pays fees for kids who want to play sports but whose parents are facing economic challenges.

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