Tango Tango

The Tango Tango Podcast, or “Top Talks,” isn’t just another veteran-focused show—it’s a front-row seat to real, raw, and unfiltered conversations with those who’ve served and those who support them. Hosted by Lloyd Knight, retired Air Force First Sergeant, Co-Founder & President of VETLANTA, and Veteran Talent Acquisition Manager at UPS, this podcast delivers powerful stories and hard-earned lessons straight from the voices of veterans.

In the military, “Top” is the trusted First Sergeant—the leader who ensures the morale, welfare, and discipline of the unit. That same leadership, authenticity, and straight-shooting honesty shape every episode of Tango Tango. 

Join us for conversations that get to the heart of what it means to serve, transition, and thrive beyond the uniform. Whether you’re a veteran, a supporter, or just someone who values grit, resilience, and real talk, Tango Tango is where you’ll find inspiration, hard truths, and powerful takeaways you won’t hear anywhere else.

Tune in. Be inspired. Walk away stronger.

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December 2, 2025

Mission: Better Care — A Talk with CareSource Military featuring Holly Joers

In this special episode of Tango Tango, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Holly Joers, President, Military and Veterans for CareSource, for an inside look at one of the most important changes impacting military families this year: TRICARE Open Season and the brand-new CareSource Military & Veterans Prime option available in Atlanta and Tampa. Holly shares her remarkable journey—from growing up in small-town West Virginia to a distinguished civil service career across the Air Force, the F-35 program, and the Defense Health Agency—before transitioning into the mission-driven world of CareSource. Her unique background offers rare insight into how healthcare innovation, military culture, and patient-centric design come together in this groundbreaking TRICARE demonstration program. Listeners will learn: What TRICARE is and who is eligible Why the new CareSource Prime option matters, including game-changing benefits like no referrals for in-network specialists How CareSource leverages decades of experience in whole-person, community-based care The biggest differences between this demonstration and earlier pilots, including broader provider networks and integrated care teams How enrollment works, why it’s fast and easy, and what beneficiaries can expect after signing up How military families can advocate for expanding choice to other states and regions With TRICARE Open Season ending…
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November 25, 2025

Veterans Day Special: A Salute to Tango Tango, Season 1

In a year defined by service, storytelling, and the power of community, Tango Tango’s first season put authentic veteran voices front and center. From Special Operations legends to storytellers preserving history, the series explored what it actually takes to translate military experience into meaningful civilian impact. In this special Season 1 Veteran’s Day wrap-up, Supply Chain Now’s Scott Luton joins Tango Tango’s own Lloyd Knight to unpack the year: why active listening is a podcaster’s superpower, what organizations get wrong (and right) about veteran hiring, and how Season 2 will go bigger with 20 episodes and even more consequential stories. Scott and Lloyd discuss the differences between Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day; three practical best practices for recruiting veteran talent; and highlights from standout episodes, from Pat McNamara’s raw, veteran-to-veteran conversation to Atomic Echoes, the PBS documentary that bridges U.S. servicemembers and survivors in Japan. They also preview Season 2 guests, live tapings, and crossovers with Supply Chain Now. Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango Learn more about our hosts Subscribe to the With That Said newsletter Learn more about Vetlanta Learn more about Supply Chain Now Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s…
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September 23, 2025

Atomic Echoes: Preserving the Voices of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes authors and filmmakers Karin Tanabe and Victoria Kelly to share the journey behind their PBS documentary Atomic Echoes. With family histories connected to both sides of World War II, Victoria’s grandfather served as a medic in Nagasaki and Karin’s grandfather was a Japanese soldier, the longtime friends uncover powerful stories of resilience, reconciliation, and hope. They discuss how the project began, the challenges of interviewing veterans and survivors, and the intensive research required to capture voices long overlooked. From faith communities in Japan to American veterans who were never recognized for their post-war service, Atomic Echoes offers a respectful and human lens on history. Karin and Victoria also reflect on the lessons they gained from the filmmaking process, from fundraising to finishing the project in just 11 months. More than a story about the past, their film underscores the urgent need for peace and the unifying power of storytelling today.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources Check out all the great resources and information mentioned during the show: Connect with Karin…
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September 9, 2025

Kingdom Operatives featuring Adam Jones

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Army veteran, Black Hawk pilot, author, and founder of Kingdom Operatives, Adam Jones. Adam shares his inspiring journey from growing up near Mario Andretti’s hometown in Pennsylvania to fulfilling his childhood dream of flying Black Hawks in the Army National Guard, overcoming unexpected challenges, and ultimately embracing a new calling to help others. Adam opens up about the struggles he faced balancing military life, family, and personal identity, including the moments of deep inner conflict that nearly cost his marriage and life. Through powerful mentorship and faith, he found a path to healing and transformation, leading him to write his book “Weapons of Mass Deception” and build Kingdom Operatives to equip leaders and veterans to break free from silent struggles and build resilience. From his military experiences to his commitment to sharing his story as a message of hope, Adam offers profound insights into overcoming drift, embracing purpose, and leading with authenticity both in and out of uniform.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources Check out all the great…
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August 26, 2025

Hire Heroes USA – Supporting the Military Transition

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Ross Dickman, CEO of Hire Heroes USA. Ross shares his journey from West Point to Army aviation, flying AH-64 Apaches with the 1st Cavalry Division, and deploying to Camp Taji, Iraq. He reflects on lessons from the cockpit, an aide-de-camp tour at the Army Safety Center, and a return to West Point as a TAC officer—experiences that shaped how he leads and how he thinks about life after service. Now leading Hire Heroes USA, Ross focuses on employment as the foundation of post-service well-being. He talks about practical tools: clear, targeted resumes, mock interviews with real hiring managers, technology that keeps people in the process, and a push toward skills-based hiring, along with the power of partnerships and volunteers, and why providing free, lifetime career support to veterans and military spouses still drives his mission today.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources: Watch NOW on YouTube Connect with Ross Dickman Learn more about Hire Heroes USA Connect with Lloyd Knight Learn more about our hosts   Want more Supply Chain Now?…
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August 12, 2025

Army Public Affairs Hall of Fame

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Army Public Affairs Hall of Famer Gail McCabe. Gail shares her journey from working in Hollywood to becoming one of the Army’s first civilian broadcast journalists. She reflects on covering missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, including two attacks that earned her the Defense of Freedom Medal. Her stories, from tank competitions in Germany to humanitarian efforts in war zones, highlight the power of journalism to preserve history and honor sacrifice. Now retired, Gail continues her storytelling through her company, CreativeMediaMatters. She talks about the emotional impact of covering conflict, the lessons she’s carried with her, and why helping others understand the human side of military service still drives her today.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources: Watch NOW on YouTube Connect with Gail McCabe Learn more about CreativeMediaMatters Connect with Lloyd Knight Learn more about our hosts   Want more Supply Chain Now? We know you can’t get enough Supply Chain Now! Don’t miss a single episode, livestream, or webinar: Learn more about Tango Tango Subscribe and follow Tango Tango on…
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July 29, 2025

Battle Bars featuring Alex Witt

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Navy veteran and entrepreneur Alex Witt, CEO of Battle Bars. From sleeping on metal grating in Iraq to building a multi-million-dollar logistics business—and walking away from it all—Alex shares the path that led him to start a mission-driven brand focused on integrity, nostalgia, and purpose. Alex opens up about joining the Navy just before 9/11, the sense of guilt that pushed him to deploy, and the turning point that came after the tragic loss of a close friend. That heartbreak would eventually lead to a new purpose through Battle Bars, a company rooted in veteran values and a commitment to doing things differently. From making sales calls and shipping orders himself to building partnerships with Barstool Sports and Lifetime Fitness, Alex offers powerful insights into what it takes to lead with passion, resilience, and authenticity on and off the battlefield.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources: Watch NOW on YouTube Connect with Alex Witt Learn more about Battle Bars Learn more about 104010 Fitness Connect with Lloyd Knight Learn…
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July 22, 2025

Why Workplace Culture Matters More Than Your Paycheck

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, hosts Lloyd Knight and Scott W. Luton discuss workplace culture, one of the most overlooked elements of career success. From defining what culture really means to sharing hard truths about toxic environments, Lloyd draws on over 14 years of experience teaching culture to veterans and corporate teams. They talk about why many job seekers overlook culture, how leadership can affect your health, and what signs to look for when evaluating a company. Lloyd also shares stories from his own transition from the Air Force to UPS, including how outdated policies had to evolve to attract and retain top talent. Whether you’re a veteran preparing to enter the civilian workforce or a leader trying to improve team performance, this episode offers real-world examples, personal lessons, and a powerful reminder that culture isn’t a perk, it’s a priority.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight and Scott Luton, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources: Watch NOW on YouTube Connect with Lloyd Knight Learn more about our hosts   Want more Supply Chain Now? We know you can’t get enough Supply Chain Now! Don’t miss…
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July 15, 2025

Camp Southern Ground featuring Lacy Gunnoe

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Lacy Gunnoe, director of wellbeing at Camp Southern Ground and a fellow Air Force veteran. Lacy shares his journey from growing up in rural West Virginia to becoming a pilot and instructor in the Air Force, flying everything from the T-37 tweet to KC-135 tankers. He opens up about the challenges and rewards of military life, deployments, and the leadership lessons that shaped his path. Lacy then takes us behind the scenes at Camp Southern Ground, a unique nonprofit founded by musician Zac Brown with a vision of inclusion and healing. He explains how the camp serves veterans and children with innovative programs rooted in wellbeing, post-traumatic growth, and community. From the sustainable facilities and organic gardens to life-changing activities and personalized support, Lacy reveals how this special place is transforming lives and helping veterans find new purpose beyond the uniform.   This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight, and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton.   Additional Links & Resources: Watch NOW on YouTube Connect with Lacy Gunnoe Learn more about Camp Southern Ground Connect with Lloyd Knight Learn more about our hosts  …

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