Supply Chain Now Radio
Episode 254

Episode Summary

“What we’ve built over the last four years are supply chain solutions that solve world problems.”

– Mike Mannina, President of ThriveWorx


There are plenty of opportunities for individuals and organizations to make a difference in the world, whether that means driving change in their local community or halfway around the world. But while they all stem from the best of intentions, not all efforts have an equal impact.

As Mike Mannina, President of ThriveWorx, explains to Supply Chain Now Radio co-hosts Scott Luton and Greg White, it is possible to have 2-4 times the impact on a resource constrained community by positively affecting the economics of agricultural work than it is through any other type of outreach program. And that statistic holds as true in Atlanta, Georgia as it does in Guatemala.

If agriculture is the target of improvement, supply chains must become the lifeline – but first, supply chain teams have to stop thinking of themselves as transactional, instead seeing their power to connect people and transport value:

  • By unifying all the different types of organizations trying to do good into a networked force.
  • By helping consumers understand the economics of the far end of the supply chains they are served by.
  • By remembering that none of us – not people or organizations – has infinite time to work with, and we all have to make the most of every minute we get.

Episode Transcript

[00:00:05] It’s time for a supply chain. Now radio broadcasting live from the Supply chain capital of the country, Atlanta, Georgia. Supply chain. Now radio spotlights the best in all things supply chain the people, the companies, the technologies, the best practices and the critical issues of the day. Now here are your hosts.


[00:00:35] Hey, good afternoon, Scott Luton here with you live on Supply Chain Now Radio, welcome back to the show. On this episode, we’re kicking off our newest podcast series, Logistics with a purpose. So on this series, it’s all about Supply chain Logistics firms that are really changing the world. You know, we’re in really moving the needle, not just offering lip service. So we’re proud to partner with Vector Global Logistics to bring you these inspiring leadership and really community service stories. Our audience, you’re going to have plenty of ideas and best practices to benchmark with for sure. So stay tuned for what promises to be an intriguing conversation. A quick programing note. Like all of our series of Supply Chain Now Radio, you can find our replays on a variety of channels Apple podcasts, SoundCloud, YouTube, Greg White where you get your podcasts from. As always, we love to have you subscribe. So missing thing. So we’ll thank all of our sponsors that help make our programing and allow us really to bring best practices and innovative ideas to our audience. But in particular, with this new series, you big half hour Vector Global Logistics who we couldn’t think of a better partner to be own this series with. So about Vector, which you can learn more about in a second, but an asset free multi-modal company in VEO which is able to provide top class C freight air freight truck rail general Logistics to its customers.


[00:01:53] Man, if you need to put some stuff somewhere into the folks, you’re right, they can move it anywhere.


[00:01:58] But you know, more intriguing to me is core to the culture is their dedication to a wide variety of charitable calls as globally. So perfect partner for us in the series. You can learn more at vector g l dot com. Okay.


[00:02:13] I know that that is already much more than what Enrique and Adrian want to talk about with Vector. Yeah, about because they’re very humble people. They are, but they’ve been great part of that. So we’re not.


[00:02:22] So we can talk about. All right.


[00:02:26] So as as Yonk as our audience can tell. Here with me today, my fearless co-host Greg White says a serial supply chain tech entrepreneur, kronic disruptor and trusted advisor to many. Greg, how you doing? I’m doing great. Thank you. Itchin to go. Oh, yeah. This is fine. I love this part. Yeah, I love it, too.


[00:02:45] And you know, we love our new series and especially the I think this is going to be unique in that, you know, Corda, who we are in quarter of our program, is the transparence, new frankness and the genuine conversation. Well, I think that’s going to was what’s going to body a lot of the content in this series.


[00:03:02] Well, you know, we get to spend time with with Adrian and with Enrique and the entire vector team all the time, because they’re just down a couple suites from us. Right. Right. So we get to see this every day. So I’m excited for our listeners to hear and see. I agree with these guys are doing outside of just the their their business and kicking off the series.


[00:03:23] I think we have a perfect guest. Let’s let’s say hello to other folks in the room. So otherwise we never talk for a couple of hours. Mike MENAGH, President, Throbbed Works Foundation. Good afternoon. How you doing?


[00:03:33] Good to see you guys. Thanks for having me on. Great, great.


[00:03:36] You know, we have heard so much about the organization and of course, the coffee. I think I heard about a a dinner that y’all had had a month or two ago. So I’m I’m so excited. We’re excited to have you here so we can learn more about the story and about the great work you’re doing. So looking forward to bring you in and learn more about that story momentarily.


[00:03:55] I also want to say hello to Adrian Patel Vector Global Logistics. I do. Adrian. Well, thank you. Great to be here. Thanks, Scott. Great to have you. And Enrique Alvarez with also a Vector Global Logistics. Enrique, how you doing?


[00:04:08] Thank you very much. I’m doing great. Always a pleasure being with you and Greg.


[00:04:12] It is. And it’s always great to have repeat guests on. Yeah. As you mentioned, as we rise, we’re going live in what in what? About three months ago, we sat right over there and had a interview with Enrique. And it resonated. Yeah. And because of all of what you talked about was they get back. Yeah, right.


[00:04:31] Yeah, that’s right. I mean, that was kind of the impetus for this this series really was to expose that. And frankly, we’re using you as a lever to challenge other companies to be as active in charitable giving in philanthropy as you guys are. Since it’s such an integral part of your business model.


[00:04:48] So no, thank you once again. And yes, we’re very passionate about giving back.


[00:04:52] Yeah. Yep. Now let’s talk about news update. Yeah, his desk. So what is new about it?


[00:05:00] Come in the team up to Malcolm and the team. So we’re in the in the holiday season. So this may have this may be a reflection on things by the time this publishes. But interestingly, second hand gifts and life experiences are top holiday regifting lists. Items. Yes, OK. We gift love it.


[00:05:24] Much to the chagrin of the folks on the Seinfeld show. Re gifting is really it’s really a good thing. It is.


[00:05:30] I mean, people you know, people are. So let me tell. This so you can read this, this is a New York Times article that talks about it’s called second hand gifts and Experiences, still top holiday lists. But look, people are you know, they’re not. Some people are rejecting consumerism. The waste, the. Well intentioned, but sometimes over giving. And and a lot of people are getting into experiences. Right. A cooking class or a cruise. I hope my wife doesn’t listen to this.


[00:06:05] Or life experience and consumable things. I mean, like coffee. Not that we’re pitching you guys, but I mean, this this is a great golfing.


[00:06:13] Everybody does this effort. Yeah. It’s what makes Suzanne go.


[00:06:16] And then, yes, people are giving things or, you know, one of the this won’t be listened to before Christmas, will it? One of my daughters is going to get a gift certificate to Goodwill. That’s where she does her shopping. She does goodwill, love. And what she does, what she gets from goodwill that she no longer wears. She gives the most ministries, which is a charitable organization as well. So anyway, you can tell we’re kind of interested in that. So. But that’s interesting that that happens, and yet retail still reigns over one hundred and ninety million Americans shopped online or in stores or will have shopped online and in stores during the Christmas season or sorry, just the Thanksgiving weekend. And yet so many people are starting to change their patterns. And I think it’s a good thing.


[00:07:06] I don’t know. I feel like a lot of people have enough stuff. Right. Look, a lot of us sitting around this table have enough stuff. It’s not global.


[00:07:17] But if you don’t need stuff, I think it’s great to instead get experience. And particularly in this age where we’re in our eye. I mean it right. Natural age where it you know, we’re in our devices all the time. I think it’s great to get life experiences. So I like it anyway. I think it’s an interesting trend. A big trend. Interesting to talk about.


[00:07:39] So target. Right. So a lot of companies talk about sustainability. Target is delivering in spades on this. They’ve set some pretty ambitious, ambitious emissions reduction goals. So they want to reduce their emissions by 30 percent from 2017 levels by 2030. Right. That’s a that’s a pretty substantial goal. And they already had a goal. Let me see what it was.


[00:08:04] They already had a goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 25 percent by 2025. Looks like they’re on pace to do that, but they continue to challenge themselves. And one of the things that they’re doing to make this happen is and this, I think, is a brilliant use of your power in the Supply chain. They want to have 80 percent of their source, their suppliers engaged in likewise processes. And as you know, one of the quotes in the article that I read about this that kind of inspired me is most target suppliers have very singular focuses on keeping Target as a customer.


[00:08:41] So essentially, essentially, they’re going to compel these vendors and give those vendors, those suppliers priority because of meeting helping them meet this initiative. And I think that’s fantastic.


[00:08:53] You know, we’ve seen a lot of big brands here as sustainability. Finally, not only are the companies and shareholders demanding, but consumers are demanding it. That’s right. Nike, we we covered a store where they’re building a big new facility in Europe with sustainability is like the top of how it’s planning its approach. This is taking trucks off the road because, ah, they’re putting it next to the canal system. I can’t remember how many miles an empty miles are saving, but but that’s just a tip at Iceberg. IKEA is working with us with early-stage, or maybe a startup company called Up Tauro to reduce returns and improve its reverse Logistics, of course. We spoke a lot about that earlier today. Yeah. Oh no. Reverse Logistics series. But it all. I mean, it’s all it’s all tied together, right? It’s all tied together, but it’s in it.


[00:09:42] And, you know, we’re going to hear more and more and more as a target continues to raise the bar on on corporate responsibility. And, you know, they’re a big influencer in that regard, right?


[00:09:52] Well, not the I believe that at the end of the day is just one of the things that we’re realizing is that people are going to start moving into more purpose. Purpose. Right. So companies are starting to shift away from. Yes. Consuming things to really doing things responsibly, not because they are nice, but because they know that everyone else. That’s coming up. And all the millennials that are behind us. Yes. Demand that. Yes. It’s just really going to be a competitive advantage, as we talked about on our last podcast, as it’s gone from a nice to have to like you inhabit, you’re going out, you have to have purpose city capacity.


[00:10:30] I like that.


[00:10:31] Recalling the words coined a word to sustain a sustainability. Well, that’s it. Malcolm possibly being on that one. But.


[00:10:39] But kidding aside. You’re absolutely right. And and it is it’s neat to see in so many different ways. And we talked earlier about how consumers and in some of our buying habits. That’s the next thing we need to really start to shift. Right. This whole returns era that we live in where you can get three and sin2 back. Well, what happens to the two, you know? Unfortunately, no. All to allow folks know all too often what does happen to the two because they destroy it because it listed low, low, at least cost way of handling with that. All too often. So anyway, fascinating to see what Target’s doing I think is setting a good example in many ways when retailers are in.


[00:11:20] I mean, they have the greatest ability to impact these things because they are attached to the consumer. Yeah, they touch every product that goes to the consumer.


[00:11:27] So it’s easier for them to push this sort of initiative through the supply chain because if you don’t do what they want and you don’t make any money off of them. Right. And they are reflecting I think they’re you know, they’re reflecting very well. In a timely fashion, the demands of the consumer. I agree it’s only going to get more prominent because the next generation of Gen IV to millennials in and I take a genze, right?


[00:11:57] Yeah. genze today.


[00:11:59] Yep. So I have two two millennials and an genze and um, she’s even more aware of these things even than the millennials are. And it’s I mean she’s the one who buys her clothes from Goodwill Slavitt. She’s very aware. It’s funny to think about people. Who know first know the word supply chain. Consumers know the word supply chain. And now they know supply chain responsibility and sustainability as well. Love it. Bring her on. And I think it’s important. Important part of what we do.


[00:12:31] So, look, we’re gonna talk about a purpose. Her postie. We should’ve made that the title of the. I was going to be the end of it. Yeah. Title of the episode capacity. That’s right. Not pomposity. So. So. Yeah.


[00:12:46] So I don’t know which of you wants to take the four on this, Adrian or Enrique. But before we we really roll into the discussion. I think it’s important for our listeners to understand why you felt compelled to launch this series and kind of the message that, you know, you you want to get out there or get extracted because you know, I know this is a big part of what you do. So can you tell us a little bit about your why here?


[00:13:15] Yes, of course. And the main reason is because we’re passionate about giving back. And I again, I’m not saying that because we’re nice people or we’re actually want to pretend to be nice.


[00:13:27] Would you say you’re really tough one, so be it. Yeah, right. Exactly. Especially if I’m on any kind of philanthropic purpose. Yes. Adrian’s along with black belt. Yeah. That’s all I ever thought. But no, I didn’t. That’s just in our DNA.


[00:13:42] That’s why we started vector. We started vector with the mission of changing the world and making the world a better place and making impossibly impact for people that work with us. And this is the reflection of who we are and why we do what we do. And I’ve said this before, but we just happened to be in Logistics. We do a terrific job at it. But it really is a way for us to affect the lives of others and positively change the culture of the society and the communities that we’re in. And so for us, this series Logistics with Purpose was a way to share a little bit of the amazing organizations that we work with day in and day out. And just to give everyone else out there a little bit of a sense of how amazing it feels and how impactful it is. If you can’t, like, change your mindset a bit and change your business model a bit and then just really focus on changing things for the better and in revenues and profits and all this, other things will then come. So we’re basically just excited to to introduce your listeners to some of the people that having inspired us to to to wake up in the mornings and work as hard as we as we do.


[00:14:59] So Mike is going to share with us a little bit about, you know, what what how how thrive farmers and thrive works, contribute to that. But can you tell us a little bit about. I mean, you guys are a great and shining example of how to do this. Can you tell us a little bit about how vector contributes to the changing the world? So, I mean, just on the on the on the charity side of it, with every container that we ship, we supplied dehydrated food stuff to to Africa.


[00:15:30] We’ve been doing that to serve international for many, many years now out to office in Mexico. Also contributes in a large way to a body that helps children with with cancer. So that’s a big part of what we do down there. It’s it’s it’s a huge passion for them. And in Chile, we support in what organization for children with learning disabilities and physical disabilities.


[00:15:59] So those are just three for every container. But it’s not something I would still be one of these organizations. No, we did. It goes to Africa. Okay. Okay. Kenya, I believe it is that we. That we do. Yeah. Got it. OK. We helped out feed the people. They would be doing it for.


[00:16:14] Every office has its own costs and Ryder every container moved. And this holiday season we usually do either the donate on behalf of our clients. And this year we basically worked in conjunction with Matilda in Ghana to Ryder container for four five thousand children in Ghana and we actually loaded them with books and glasses and we’re doing some ice screenings and.


[00:16:38] Yeah, exactly. For these kids, you can’t you can’t really see properly with or without the glasses, you know. And some of these kids, this party is it’s the first time they get a solid meal with some chicken for the entire year. So it’s a huge thing. And we’re very proud of our colleague Matilda, who has organized this food for years in a row. Now we Matildas an irresistible force.


[00:16:58] Yes. And Sheer, really? Harper on the next episode for sure.


[00:17:03] Three continents. Ja, ja. Move the needle and and really impacting lives and especially kids. You hate to see kids suffer in any way, shape or form. You won’t see any suffering. But kids in particular and kids with cancer and kids that don’t have a full meal like you talk about are or kids that are struggling to have books to develop reading skills or or can even, you know, their eyesight is impacted. So I love it.


[00:17:27] We love the story metric to just every container. Yeah. I mean, it really reinforces the VA to do it right. And the win the trigger for doing it. Yeah, right. It’s so right.


[00:17:40] And it just makes it a lot more meaningful as well. Right. Because you’re not thinking of moving a container from point A to point B, you’re thinking of giving food or giving books or giving education or giving hope or shipping. Bicycle’s right. So. For people that work at Vector. I think that just having this course as our main strategy has made us an even better Logistics company, if that makes sense.


[00:18:06] So how long have you been doing this? You said basically since the inception. Right.


[00:18:10] So when I was 9 2000, I might want to add as well that we’re all we’re all empowered to go out and find a cause that we’re passionate about as well. Just the most recent example, we have colleagues in in our office in Mexico who went out in the road and found a group of children who would be, uh, I didn’t have much this this Christmas season, organized a big party for them, got a Christmas wish list from the caregivers who were looking after them. And, uh, and a lot of it out of their own pocket went outside of the budget they had and supplied these kids with with Christmas presents and everything they wanted to. Wow. That’s a huge thing for us.


[00:18:47] Is that what what do you guys think? The main thing this Gates wanted was she’s UPS. Yes. Soccer balls. No, it’s very clothes. Like underwear. Underwear. It’s often socks. Yeah. Socks. Underwear in. Which is heartbreaking. Isn’t. I’ll use this. That’s what they want for Christmas. Yeah. I can set you up with some socks next time. Nick. Next. That’s good. Let’s do that. Send the whole container. Yeah. I’ll add some socks to the next containers for sure to do that.


[00:19:18] So let’s make sure our listeners know how can they learn before dove into the conversation, Mike.


[00:19:22] How can folks learn more about vector V that can come to, uh, come to us on Facebook of our website? Uh, Victor G.l. Dot com. We’re on Instagram. Oh, they can contact me personally. Adrian ADR I-A in DOT Purtill P U R T I L L at Victor V E CTO r G.l. Dot com.


[00:19:46] Excellent. Great. Excellent. I appreciate your. And I know this.


[00:19:50] I just love here and Adrian talk. I did too.


[00:19:52] This funky, funky southern accent of my various other. We need to do some more at the IQ of this table. But it just goes up because we’re back. Exactly.


[00:20:04] They sponsor Supply Chain Now Radio. Just real quick. Sponsers Supply Chain Now Radio. Right.


[00:20:09] We get that, we got it recorded, we’re gonna make that into our next session. It’s gonna work like that. So I appreciate your Sheer. I know they are very.


[00:20:18] It’s always about the customer. Always about effort. Always about, you know, everyone other than Vector. But thanks for for bearing with us and talking us more about what all do day in and day out. And I can’t be we can’t be more excited about the series. So thank you very much. OK. So back to our our featured guests here today. And again, I think for this first this kick off Logistics with a purpose series. What an excellent organization.


[00:20:43] So, Mike Mannino, good afternoon again. Good to see you guys. Yeah, I like to have you. Your ears have had a big burnin sometime. Cough has been percolating.


[00:20:55] We’re big fans. It does smell really good. I can’t I can’t smell the. Can’t smell. Hold up the mike. That’s right.


[00:21:04] So let’s let’s get into it before we talk shop, before we learn more about throbbed works and throb. Let’s talk more about Mike, who Mike is. So tell us about where you grew up in and give us some anecdotes about that upbringing.


[00:21:15] Yes. So I I’m at Atlanta native, grew up outside of the city, in the suburbs from a Generally Middle-Class family.


[00:21:25] Nothing abnormal.


[00:21:28] My parents did separate at an early age and that kind of forced my brother and I to become a little more independent. We are always very we were taught few frugal ness, I guess. And stewardship from a young age.


[00:21:43] So I got to be frugal city capacity.


[00:21:49] But I’d say that I was always I was always working from the time I come home. I remember being. I don’t know if I’m you know, this was legal at the time, but it didn’t used to matter way. I cut my grass when I was in. I was eight years old when he cut the grass. And then that turned into doing neighbors where we work for neighbors and then working at the local swim team. And how many yard did you get up to? I only had a couple of my brother was the real entreprenurial and he had like four or five yards, which at that time, you know, he was.


[00:22:18] What’s the age difference in two years? Okay. You’re the oldest. I’m the oldest. Two years. Okay.


[00:22:24] And so, you know, I was find on a normal course B. I say I was pretty scrappy and surviving.


[00:22:30] And then, you know, I was not. Spirituality was not a big thing in our household. Not a huge thing. But then when I was about 18, before I went off to college, I did have a very deep spiritual encounter. Mm hmm. That really kind of woke me up to what? What. What am I living for? And I had this weird fear as a kid.


[00:22:52] I even fear. But I just had this sense that I wasn’t going to live very long. I always had a sense of urgency.


[00:23:00] And I don’t mean to get super deep. I I wore these guys for the listeners. I wore them ahead of time. Here we go.


[00:23:06] The philosopher here. Yeah. I’m so, so sorry if you glaze over. But, you know, I always felt like life was going to be short.


[00:23:13] And so I felt this sense of urgency. And after that spiritual awakening, I kind of understood the why for me. And so I went off to college. I went to University of Georgia and was so grateful for the Hope Scholarship because I was able to afford to go study business and journalism. And it was one of the summers I got a scholarship to go. And it was really cool because the donor wrote this scholarship to force people to study abroad and go do an experience in non traditional non-European countries. So there was scoped where you had to choose either somewhere in Asia, Africa or South America. Well, I chose Peru and I got the scholarship, the grant, and I went and spent a summer in an orphanage outside of Lima and then up in the mountains in the rural parts of the country. And that was my first time seeing that the disparity in the world and for me, kind of this injustice that I felt very compelled to do something about. Mm hmm. And so I came back. That was a deep summer, a lot of processing.


[00:24:27] I have literally a whole I’m a I’m a I’m right. And so I had a whole journal like this in front of me filled just from those 60 days I was down there because I was just absorbing so much. And that basically shaped the rest of my my life. How long goes that? Roughly. No, let’s say 20 years. Okay. It’s probably 20.


[00:24:47] So was I mean, was there like a pivotal moment while you were down there where you just went?


[00:24:51] Yeah, the very first have to do something about. Yeah. You know, I land. Yeah.


[00:24:56] I’d done international travel is always drawn the culture. I was always drawn to understanding people and, you know, fascinated by the differences and yet the commonalities in human human existence. So I went down and got there late one night, so, you know, I got picked up from the airport, went to a volunteer house. It was kind of like a group house.


[00:25:17] And it was then next day or the following day after that, when the director of the volunteer program took us to the slums outside the city of what had been a trash dump, that then a bunch of my people had migrated from the Amazon jungle and came to the city. They were kept out, you know, decades before the city built a wall and said, you cannot come in and migrate here, but you can have this trash dump. And that trashed up, then turned into an entire city with two hundred some thousand people.


[00:25:47] But it had you know, for me, we went there and we were driving through. And I remember we went to a cemetery and I had never.


[00:26:00] In the trash dump. In the trash. And this is it’s like a town.


[00:26:05] And it I saw the day of the cemetery and it was these two super basic, you know, little tombs, blocks.


[00:26:15] And I was all in dirt and all dirt roads. And there was no running water and there’s no there explaining about the corruption. And I was asking, you know, what’s that bucket in front of these little shantytown homes in there? Well, that’s where the water gets delivered. And, you know, a lot of these guys, if you don’t pay them a bribe and you don’t get water delivered. So I’m just sitting there.


[00:26:33] I just remember like walking in and weeping and just feeling like this. This isn’t right. And, you know, so I Fazli spent the rest the last 20 years in different forms of trying to empower humans to thrive. Human flourishing is kind of, I’d say, the theme.


[00:26:55] And it sounds really deep. And I mean, I’m not trying to say like I’m perfect in that. I know, you know, I’m not selfish, but it definitely put me on a journey of like, I want to understand why is this the case that there’s this this level of disparity and what can be done about it? Yeah. And I think something can be done. And in 20 years in. I’m I’m not. You’re doing it. I’m not jaded. And I think we can’t do it. And, you know, when we met Enrique and in Adrian at Vector’s through a mutual friend who said you guys have to meet because you all are trying to change the world and make it better. And so that’s how this whole introduction came. And so you’re stuck with me today.


[00:27:35] To ask.


[00:27:35] Love it and love. Just to how frank you are with that opinion that you had and then how you’ve acted on that.


[00:27:44] You know, in the 20 years since and we’ll talk more about throbbed works here. So we’re familiar, of course, with prov. I’m less familiar with thrive work. So tell us more about the organization first and then we’ll talk about your roll call.


[00:27:59] So I think you’ve got to see that there are two distinct entities in a singular mission. And what what’s really cool when you really go deep, but to how do you make the world a better place? You can retrofit an old business model and then try to make something good come out of it or what we got to do, we get the luxury to do which which was dream of how to solve a problem. And then what are the platforms you need to actually engage to solve that problem? And we came up with a two pronged approach. You needed to read shape the coffee industry through a for profit business that took a commodity that had been traded. Second largest traded commodity in the world, coffee behind. What do you guys think? Maureen a large orange juice.


[00:28:47] Daryl oil. Oil is the largest traded commodity, so it’s much nicer to drink orange juice. Coffee is the second largest macheted.


[00:28:57] And so yeah, there there was 400 plus years of this of a disparity of a supply chain of things being grown in parts of the world on the backs of very, you know, indentured servant or slave labor. Right. Coming into a wealthier economy, wealthier consumers. And that value never got transferred into those economies. So when when Michael Jones, our co-founder, who I got to meet a few years into his journey of launching drive, he he basically said, we’re going to change this and we’re going to rebuild how this is done and we’re gonna build it from the ground up. And so that’s drive farmers. The farmers is essentially a direct source, supply chain for large scale businesses. And we do have amazing customers out there, some of the best restaurants in the industry. We work with big clothing companies who care about supply chain and manufacturing workers, smoothie companies. We work with hotels. We have our own coffee shop. And we kind of have this really unique customer facing piece, but we’re really Supply chain Logistics company. And the whole piece was consumers are paying the same price for a cup of coffee when you go buy it at. The store you go buy it at, a cafe you buy in a grocery. Year after year and maybe, you know, I actually I’m a nerdy economists on the side.


[00:30:16] I was tracking the price of a cup of coffee from from a big, you know, company. You can probably guess whose price they are selling.


[00:30:25] Firstly, for 20 years, you’re a saint, Saint Arbroath.


[00:30:30] So I was tracking the pricing and it basic tracks with inflation, which means it’s stable. Yeah. If you look at what a farmer who grows the raw product at the bottom of that value chain, what they’re getting compensated in real terms is actually declining over the past 20 years. You know, I started on an annual basis. You can have a 60 percent volatility on that price. So imagine you’re getting one paycheck a year. And you have to invest all of that paycheck into your your business to be in business the next year to get the next paycheck.


[00:31:02] But you can’t predict what you’re going to earn. And so what happens in the coffee industry for a lot of farmers is devastating. And then it creates all these other ills in society. So immigration, you see coming out of Guatemala, people leaving because they don’t have healthy lives. So thrive essentially as solving that. And we’re really excited and proud of that. So they’re they’re transferring that value, that price stability to farmers doing a profit share. Farmers are earning 66 percent above some of the fair trade prices and even beyond why it’s. And we are paying consistent prices year after year. And that’s been amazing. Has been so fun to be a part of that team.


[00:31:37] Sixty six percent above fair trade. That’s the average in a lot of them are even higher than that. Should be in bold numbers. Yeah. By the way, that is enormous.


[00:31:49] One of things that I learned last time we met with Mike was the immigration and then how it correlates with the price of coffee. And I thought that was just fascinating special because he was right in the middle of that immigration, I guess, media movement.


[00:32:03] And yeah, I mean, to me, that’s incredible. It’s a it’s it’s the external effects of an economy that gets broken, you know.


[00:32:12] And so it’s not that we are taking we’re not involved in policy issues. We’re not involved in these kind of issue.


[00:32:18] But if you go down to the core of why would somebody leave a really beautiful place, that when you go to a you know, I was three weeks ago, we were launching our water initiative in a western highlands of Guatemala. It’s right on the Mexican Guatemalan border. When you go to this place, it’s the most beautiful paradise you’ve ever seen from the mountains, the trees, the landscape, the climate mean it. It couldn’t be more beautiful. You couldn’t grow more delicious foods and fruits, you know, crops. Right. So why would you want to leave that at great risk to yourself? Well, it’s not because people just decide by hands what do they know, what they told, what they’ll tell you is the pain of hunger is so much greater than the fear of what’s on the other side of, you know, trying to risk your life. So it’s it’s really interesting.


[00:33:11] Well, let’s talk up. I want to ask you about the program. Areas that throbbed works is involved in. Can give us example before that. We do that. Your role with organization. How do you spend your time?


[00:33:21] So my role has largely been to launch drive works. And that’s kind of. Now, the second piece of this. So let’s let’s go back to the thesis that if you want to change the way the world affects poverty, which is what we’ve set out to do, and we want to create communities that thrive. And we want to do that through agriculture, because if we affect agriculture, the World Bank. So this premiere institution of the whole world says you have a two to four times higher impact if you move the needle on AG than any other industry. So we know we can reach the world’s poor through AG. We do it through coffee. Now, what is it? A community with more income due to evolve and then get the other things they need? Well, that’s where it thrive. Works came in because we said, hey, we’ve got to unlock this potential of the entire community where farmers are now earning a decent living. And how do we do that? Wealth drive works came and said we’re gonna do a holistic community development approach, which is focused on economic opportunity, health and wellness. Leadership got to unlock that potential that’s already there. Education and environment. And then within those pillars, you really we dig in, really do a lot of water initiatives and we’re focused on education.


[00:34:44] So those are kind of the buckets. And we say those are the elements that are essential to a thriving community without any of those five. You basically can’t have a place that thrives and you can apply that formula to Atlanta or to Boros of Atlanta or Chicago or all of the. Well, you can you can apply the same formula. And so that’s what we’ve been we’ve been thinking through. And we decided it was in our interest to. Put a nonprofit together that is separate from the company and not even funded entirely by the company, but funded by a by a coalition of like minded people, organizations, customers who are buying product from these communities. Now have a right to be there and thrive. Works is becoming, you know, what we’ve built over the last four years is now supply chain solutions to to solve world problems. Love so well we would love is if we can ever be helpful. And that’s why I’m excited to be here today. Any of the things we’re learning along the way could help the targets of the world and the Costcos of the world. And the shipping company is a world we can be helpful.


[00:35:52] We want to be, you know, as is our listeners can probably already gather from what you’ve shared. You’re not putting your eggs in one basket. You’re touching the community in the places you serve a number different ways from transformational leadership, economic opportunity, education, environment, health and wellness. Your organization’s touching each of those aspects. What’s, um, what’s what’s an example of a couple of those areas that maybe you haven’t touched on yet where you’re really driving the needle?


[00:36:21] Right. So the needle. Sorry. So we have we we you know, I can go back into my history. Yeah. I can tell you about my career, which was previously in government. And so I had this in government.


[00:36:32] Your job is to create policies that allow conditions for humans to flourish. Right. That’s the general thrust of what a good government is. They do help society thrive by creating good, stable policies. It’s a top down approach. Right. And what’s cool about business is we get to be the grassroots bottom up. And so with with thrive works, we say we’re market driven. So we come behind the supply chain of a of a for profit. I think that’s the secret of we can effectively move the needle on poverty far cheaper, quicker and more effectively by working with a corporation who’s got a supply chain tail somewhere. It is willing to let us work with that. Then we could if we just tried to do it on their own. So market driven, locally led, you’ve got to get in the mind of the community first and then globally connected, meaning how do you when when a community’s lacking a piece of what they need to move the needle, that’s when we need to connect them in a globalized world to our resources and talents from the outside. So that’s what we do. And so the the programs, basically the communities have to drive what we are going to partner with them. If we come in and say, huh, we see that you don’t have water and these kids don’t have shoes. And this is and we come in from the outside, which is often, sadly, how the government will do things.


[00:37:57] And no ding on my government colleagues, especially if you’re listening. I was one of you. I still love you. You do a lot of great things, but we’ve got to be really careful with that. And so the communities tell us what to do. The last thing we just launched three weeks ago was a culmination of three years working in the community. And it was a clean water initiative. And it’s it’s starting small with household clean water. And that’s touching it mean as small as six hundred and fifty people. And in round one another 650. Round two. But I think what’s really cool is that communities have actually bought in. They’re actually paying for a lot of this themselves, largely because they’re earning and they can. Right. And now we’re about to be able to scale that to thousands in a whole region that really needs it. So that’s exciting. We do some leadership camps with high school students and elementary school students. So we have a whole group of camps. We’ve we’ve we do now partnership with wind shaped camps. They are one of the large camp organizations in the US. They do amazing, amazing work. And we’re working with them in Costa Rica. We do eight weeks of programing. And that was really fun because, you know, here in America, a lot of us kids maybe go to a camp or something.


[00:39:13] But in Costa Rica, we send our kids up for every single right.


[00:39:20] Bashfully where the summer goes only with you for weekends.


[00:39:24] Yeah, that’s right. Why I love you, Bradley and Gracie. But anyway. Well, so.


[00:39:28] So it was so fun because we’re trying to explain to these communities this, you know, what it’s about to come. We’ve got this week long camp and they just couldn’t imagine, like, what is that right? But anyway, fast forward. And we’ve done it two years and in 16 different places. And what it does is it brought this amazing unity to entire communities of people who are divided politically or spiritually or economically. The whole community in a rural town has to come together to put on this four day camp where they’re the volunteers, because, again, we’re not come in, do it for them. They’re going to lead it. We’re going to support it. And then you get in a rhythm and all the sudden. Mazing good comes out of that, so that’s the beauty of having a specialized nonprofit that works with the for profit but is not a normal corporate foundation. We needed to specialize and we needed to be autonomous and unique.


[00:40:20] That’s an exceptional vision by any standard, even for a nonprofit to teach them to fish. Yeah, not give them fish. Right. Because ultimately that creates the sustainability of that community to be able to support themselves. Right. Even if even if a community has the economic means to do so, they still need to have the knowledge to understand how to deal with those means. Yeah, right. Yeah. Wow. That’s great.


[00:40:44] Okay. So it feels like to say it’s harder to do.


[00:40:46] Yeah. We feel like we.


[00:40:48] But it’s core to what you’re offering it. I mean really essential. Yeah, it’s essential. And you know, that’s not always the case. But that transition from standing to standing on your own is is a really important part of what a philanthropy younger’s delivers.


[00:41:03] So do I get to like right on that if you have what I want? Oh, I want to start preaching. I’m ready to go for it, man. Because like, here’s the here’s the call to all of us in the global community.


[00:41:16] Supply chain is we’ve got to start seeing ourselves as we’re not part of a transaction of supply. Writing from a POV far reach part of the world that you’ve never heard of. To your customers, right where these are, each transaction actually represents people and it represents a livelihood. It was so cool in the 21st century that was never really able to be done quite to this degree ever before in the previous centuries.


[00:41:45] Millennia really is that we can now shrink the world. Yeah. To the you know, what’s going on in the western highlands of Guatemala in those families producing a bean that then somehow makes it to a restaurant in Manhattan. Yeah, it’s being drank by an executive of a Wall Street firm.


[00:42:07] Right. That all the sudden there there’s now this unique connection. And so what what’s been so fun for me and rewarding? You know, when I was on this water project, it was one of the most successful restaurant tours that I’ve ever met. Skive, very successful restaurant in Manhattan who had come down.


[00:42:24] He he buys coffee out of this community with us. And he got to go into a kid’s house. Kid’s got spinal bifida and they don’t have any treatment there. So he’s paralyzed. And yet we get to relate as humans on equal footing. And so here you have this guy who’s he’s restaurants doing seven, seven plus figures a year and a kid who’s paralyzed living in a hut on the mountains of Guatemala who produce something that his customers at Manhattan are enjoying. And Supply chain makes us all come together and bond. And so that’s a love it.


[00:43:05] Well, you know, we’re all partial in this around this table because supply chain folks, folks that work in this world, I think they they can, as you’re putting it, they can so uniquely not just shrink world, but they can save the world. We are used to as supply chain professionals. We’re used to solving problems and solving problems quickly solving solving surprises, you name it. We know that in the day the consumers got to be served. Right. And that’s what it is. I heard you speak about the power supply chain a lot of what you do and and supply chain solutions. Best to great advantage of Supply chain today, because not only can we tap into all that knowhow and that leadership bandwidth, but since Supply chain is gonna see at the table, we’re making a much greater impact. And so you’re preaching to the right choir here, but hopefully Lovera listeners are getting exciting, exciting times, right?


[00:43:59] Because at this point, as we’re talking libber before we started the podcast, like the consumers are starting to not only connect the dots, but there are starting to personally relate to people all over the world, which will not only shrink the world even faster, but they care. It’s you’re not just buying a book, right? You’re really want to buy a book that was manufactured by someone that’s really care for that person, that’s doing the planting of the trees or whatever. Right. So it’s it’s going to be very exciting. And I think, as you said, Mike, just consumers with technology and with what you guys are doing, and that’s why you guys are so important, this whole Supply chain network as well. Greg Greene and Scott is just raising that awareness. And as we continue forward in the world a couple years from now, we’re hoping that people just realize that we’re all in this together.


[00:44:48] Absolutely. And there’s such an awareness gap. I mean, you know, yesterday on only one of our podcasts, we were talking about the gender gap in an industry and in how, unfortunately, according to some views out there, well-founded, data driven views that this technology, you know, everyone’s doubling down on a car in 2020. You hear. Single conversation. I think folks be surprised on just how much A&A touches in their life that they really don’t know that that’s what’s driving. Well, unfortunately, in that communities we’re talking earlier, I think 22 percent of the professional community are women. Right. Huge gap there. Well, if we think about what button then, Greg, and you have a much more eloquent view than I do on this much more educated view. But, you know, if we don’t if we don’t change who’s building the algorithms and if we aren’t so careful about not perpetuating some historical bias. Well, what’s coming out of these of these A&B programs is give me more of the same. It’s not that anyone’s wrong. It’s not how do you put it, a drive in here?


[00:45:50] Yeah. It’s more imprinting than intentional. Right. It’s if if a guy is teaching A.I. about shoes, he’s gonna use a man’s shoe. Right. If a guy, you know, subconsciously sees doctors as men, it’s gonna be a picture of a man whenever you teach the A.I. about doctors. And I think we have to be an intentional rather than imprinted. We have to be an intentional to be, you know, to be representative of every body or, you know, all of the points of view. Right. We need more. We need more points of view. Right. When we. Well, I mean anything. Yeah. Right. Yep.


[00:46:26] And it comes back to awareness. You know, it comes back to so much of what you’re talking about. And a point you just made. Enrique, you know, if folks just kind of salt and we all struggle with it. Right. Isn’t there’s limited hours and days. If we could all just try to understand and know what we don’t know, because there’s all that gap for everyone. There’s so much that we can that we can much, so much, so much more that we can accomplish. And then I love the I mean, you know, our next question we want to pose to you was about your why?


[00:46:55] But I think I mean, I think if anything, I think you could maybe consolidate your. Why? Because I feel like you’ve expressed your why. Yeah. Throughout this. But I mean, is there I mean, is there sort of a central tenet that, you know, that you’re serving? Is there that. Yeah. Yes. There are nagging feeling in your mind or something that you feel like you’re certain.


[00:47:15] I mean I told you the highest purpose for me was, you know, if we were created by a good God. I wanted to serve and and love him and do everything for that. And then the sad part of that is if we’re here in this short little blip of life, that I want to maximize the time that I’m here, because if I think I’m I’m going.


[00:47:36] I don’t know if you’ve seen Hamilton. It’s one of my favorite musicals. I love musicals. My wife got me into it. If you haven’t, you’ve got to see it. But there’s this whole song in it of why do you write like you’re running out of time every day. Every day at night. You’re running out of time. So this theme that this guy who came from an island and was an orphan and and had nothing becomes Alexander Hamilton, who then leads so much of the country’s founding. Right. Brilliant, brilliant show and play.


[00:48:03] But but I related to that. It was like, gosh, that’s it. Like, I can’t sleep. I hardly slept last night. This whole week is crazy. I just feel like if we’re good to be here, I need to make the most of our time when we’ve got to help each other.


[00:48:19] And that’s it.


[00:48:20] It’s an obsession. Yes. Right. I mean, you know, I talked to a lot of the founders and and leaders of companies that I work with. And I’ll tell them that, you know, many people will say, I’m just really passionate about this technology or this, you know, this application or this cause. But but passion is not sufficient. Obsession is what is required to really engage and really to make things happen. And you’ve got that.


[00:48:51] And that’s always given. I’d say it was given to me. And and I think the challenge for all of us, because everyone listening, you’ve got some obsession.


[00:48:59] So it’s like how do you cultivate and maintain it? Because it’s easy to get jaded. It’s not easy to think. Right. It just doesn’t matter. This is just more I mean, in the whole sustainability world, you know, I think many of you are probably sick like I am of just hearing about sustainability. Sustainability.


[00:49:16] Well, if you don’t see it as an opportunity to leave your mark on the world because you really want to do that and you feel like you’re forced just to do it, because that’s what the market ask. And that’s what this customer I don’t know why they want that, but, you know, it’s it’s not as fun if you’re just doing it because you feel like you have obligation. Right, guys, this way. We’re fun to do it.


[00:49:38] When you see that, you can make it to make an impact. Absolutely. It’s I’m a I’m a throw a twist here. Oh, here we go. So we want to close. But before we we get more information at where folks learn more and we always like to get a sense of what folks are thinking kind of in the broader I mean. Well, that’s tough to say with this audience because they’re already thinking in the broader global business community. But rather than just asking Mike about the trends and topics that he’s thinking about more than others, I want to also get. Adrien’s and Enrique’s input on that, too. So we’re to start with Mike, though. So when he when you when you go broader and we think about it and you’ve got a pretty unique perspective because you are already so deeply involved in that global community. But but what else? When you’re not driving change, when you look at how the industry is evolving and with its technology business, what what is one of those trends or developments that you’ve got your finger on the pulse and find more intriguing than others right now?


[00:50:39] So I I obsess about how do these different how do different ecosystems really work together in the world? And what I mean by that is how do how would a Logistics company work with a dish like, you know, a retailer, work with the supplier, work with an NGO, work with a government? So I you know, I see all these spheres of different people doing good. Right. And rarely do they actually all work together. And you’ve got big bodies like the UN, everyone they you know, that put sustainable development goals, Rybar DA going to New York, you have a few conversations with Fortune 50 companies and then everyone kind of goes their merry way and nothing really changes. And I think what I’m seeing is there has to be places where we innovate and bring these spheres of expertise and knowledge together in ways that are win, win, win. And that’s what we’ve basically tried to do at Thrive works with all of our stakeholders.


[00:51:36] I love it. You know what? You’re clearly the best of the best, because as Mike Griswald has shared with us, Gartner, if they conduct the top 25 supply chain rankings each year, a wonderful it’s a huge source of information and one trends they identified, I believe his last year in 2018 rankings were the best of the best. We’re getting exactly what you described, all the different industries and sectors and how there’s something they can do together with the best companies are figuring out how to have those conversations with these with all these different components of society and then doing something with that, using different resources in different ways. That’s what that’s what’s driving. A lot of that was a common thread, a lot of with the top what they call the Masters category and allow the top 10. So your vision’s dead on this. That’s the challenge. You know, let’s not think like it’s 1982. We talk about that a lot, but let’s act like it’s like it’s 2032, right? Yeah. All right. So moving right around the table. Adrian, I want to pose the same question to you. You know, you are involved in global business, too, but what’s what’s one development or innovation or topic that you’re tracking more than others right now in global supply chain?


[00:52:43] I think what’s what’s what’s really critical and this is this is not new at all, but it’s something that I try and focus on a lot. And studies have borne this thought. A lot of articles I’ve read and reports I’ve read that customers, when they polled executive decision makers and companies looking for supply chain services, need the service providers to to offer ideas in innovative areas of improvement to their supply chain. And that’s just not happening because all, you know, pretty much the same you offer the same rates, they use the same service, the same carriers. So that’s something I find is something that’s going to continue to be a driving force is how we can make a difference.


[00:53:29] The same thing that you think the shippers. I think you guys might call some of them some of these people, shippers. But the retailers and distributors and manufacturers, you think they are coming to you. They want to come to you for ideas about how to change things. They want us to go to them with ideas while innovative ideas. EFT. Well, they’ve got the right companies having the same day. I mean, this day hearing the same things over and over again. Yeah. And they’re looking for people to do to make a difference, to make them think about things in a new light. Wow. Which is not happening.


[00:53:58] Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially in the modern day supply chain where everything changes by the minute. Right. And so I can hear that conversation as you as you went through that, as you shared your answer. I love how you do this. Mr. or Mrs. Supplier. But what else can you do? You know, I’ve got these other challenges. I mean, that’s a conversation. That part probably plays out on a very regular basis. Enrique, what about you? What what what are you tracking more than others here lately?


[00:54:28] Well, one of the things that I really see and I think that’s going to be critical not only for our company, but just for, I guess, the life of a lot of companies. Other it’s just like how to build bridges between each other and how to kind of like do that. And we have presence in Mexico. We have UPS in Chile. And everyone kind of like pays attention to the news. And there’s a lot of really polarized ideas that are trying to separate us from one another into different buckets, into different classes and do painting this picture of a very dramatic and chaotic world that we or they want us to believe we live in. And what I what I really see like. China, when I go to Chile, when I travel to Mexico and when I talk to all those people in all these different clients and also the people that work with us, is that there’s so many things that kind of bind us together. And so one of things is going to be critical, is just as thriving as an organization will be to to really bridge the gap and try to try to separate media in such a way that you’re just getting the news. But at the same time, you’re really conscious about what the news are telling you and what is true, what is not true and what you really wanted to be true. Because we don’t want to have this self-fulfilling prophecy about the world ending. And I feel like sometimes that’s that’s kind of like where we heading. Right, guys? So going out there, meeting people, the example that you put together was this business owner in New York, kind of like being in, what, tomorrow with this kid? It’s just that’s what we need to do. And that’s what I think we should continue doing. Just troubled more. Be outside, talk to people, forget about their Tronox Aymen.


[00:56:11] There’s oh. Him we’ve talked about. Blessed be the blessed. Yeah. Let’s be the target bond. Right. And it reminds me we are blessed are the peacemakers. And you gotta find you gotta be willing to go out and find those common threads. Ryder, plenty of differences, plan things that divide us. But if you if you care about taking the time to understand it and find the ties that bind someone’s life, we would might say it’s just a lot more fun.


[00:56:36] And honestly, there’s enough people out there that chair certain core values regardless of your religion or political view. Right. Does that just inspire you? And if you’re just gonna be here in this world, in this life for a short period of time, as Mike again, Will.


[00:56:55] Well, said you my rather live at a hundred times.


[00:56:59] That will be, hey, it’s still short reality, but now you might as well just go like try to inspire people. Absolutely.


[00:57:06] I try to I try to keep this in mind. Believe what you live, not what you hear. Right. I mean, you hear a lot, but I mean, like you’re talking about and like you’ve experienced you experience a lot different than what you hear. And I just refuse to believe what I hear. I believe what I live. Right. And I like that. And I think that’s it’s comforting, honestly, because you don’t feel like the world is ending because you’re not seeing it. You don’t feel like there’s a lot of strife, at least. You know. I don’t wanna go into a whole bunch of them there. Believe what you left.


[00:57:41] Believe what you. Don’t limit yourself, Greg. Yeah. Yeah. All right. If I don’t limit myself, this thing won’t enter the final.


[00:57:49] And that is just likely that people are when we get to know each other and actually remove our titles and our barriers and our intensity of whatever passion about we actually just do life with somebody or share a meal or break bread. I mean, it is amazing how it doesn’t matter what your political views.


[00:58:09] It doesn’t matter. Probably don’t even know you. You don’t have to know. All of a sudden you realize, wow, we have a lot more in common.


[00:58:15] Is it? There was a beautiful ad a couple of years ago called in an ad, but it might have been narrated on TV by Tony Morris. Mm hmm. It was really, really emotional that you said we were a lot more alike than we are different. I mean, it was incredible.


[00:58:29] I’m with you. If you’ve experienced life, you’ve experienced that firsthand. Yeah, that is just simply true. Mm hmm. Right. If you’ve if you’ve gone outside your comfort circle, then you will have undoubtedly irrefutably experience that thereby needs an epiphany like Mike, you know, where he he you chose to go.


[00:58:47] I guess you were challenged with that. How do you put it? Go to a non European. What was it?


[00:58:54] What a challenge. Like nontraditional non-debate, like go to go to developing country. And I’m really grateful for Mr. Court. Yes. Back in the day, he gave me an opportunity.


[00:59:05] Sikhi, first, understand or educate? I’d love to admire that. And Amarr more about, you know, the action you’ve taken since you undergo in that aspect you’re joining. Okay. So much good stuff here. I’m glad this is a series, Enrique and Adrian, because I think it’s a heck of a story.


[00:59:24] Two hours are pretty high.


[00:59:26] Well, yeah, there’s so there’s so much critical content in conversations like this and also a lot of passion. And I think with a lot of passion comes a lot of perspective. Let’s make sure, Mike, that folks know how to plug in to throbbed works great.


[00:59:43] So if you need coffee, coffee solutions, go to WDW that thrive. Farmers,, you can look us up there. If you’re looking for a supply chain solution, thinking about how do you do good in your organization with your supply chain and how could you partner with nonprofits behind you and let them reap your benefits and you’ll all went together then reach out to thrive works w ww that thrive works w o r x dot o r g and you can hit me up at Mike at Thrive Works dot oag.


[01:00:13] Excellent.


[01:00:14] What if you want to reach out to Enrique Fera Fino by some of its coffee come what does in Nicaragua?


[01:00:22] Well, so our listeners are maybe if you’re seen YouTube, you can see this. But on the back of this throbbed coffee is the former that everyone else.


[01:00:33] Yeah. Yeah. Shuker that coffee. Yeah, that is. Man, that is so cool. You gotta put a face with. You’re right. Everyone producing whatever widget if somebody produce that and particularly if they grew it themselves as agro. Kryder It’s not manufactured. Miura even more so and so. So Mike, I know you’re not here to sell anything, but where can folks go by this? We can buy that on our website, Delcambre to have that drive. Farmers dot com perfect and e retailers carry it. We know it’s predominantly food server. Yeah. Up in the north, if you’re up in Michigan and stuff, you’ll start seeing some some of your grocery.


[01:01:09] We’ve got some deals launching where you can get in grocery stores in the Midwest and love. Michigan area.


[01:01:15] But so I have to ask, what’s your favorite?


[01:01:17] I mean, you can see that you have a broad range of lines. You know, it depends on my mood.


[01:01:23] You know, some days I want we’ve got a really good Ethiopian right now. We’ve got a really high end one from Curser Rica that’s that’s sweeter and more citrusy.


[01:01:32] So we kind of like get really nerdy and geeky about our flavors, just like if you’re drinking different wines, maybe four different countries to others to add as well, as well as Mike being a nerdy economist on the slide, he’s also a professional coffee gotten through Izzy when you drink. And I experienced firsthand. Absolutely.


[01:01:49] We’ve got to have we need to have a coffee cutting anything. When I was at Cisco, we cut different vestibules kind of against each other. Right.


[01:01:56] We wish you a supping thumping table. Yeah. And then you cut through the coffees and then get scored and rated and love it. You can have a winner. Want to do it? We’ll end by number. Go. Maybe we can bring the whole thing back. That may arise. And film there. Yeah. So record drive works. that or CalWORKs. Sorry. Thrive. Farmers dot com. That’s what it was. I know it’s confusing.


[01:02:20] We’ll have both links on the show notes. Yeah. Make it really easy for folks to plug in. Fascinating story. Love what you are doing to give back.


[01:02:28] And again, what a great story that Gracies great partners. So yeah, not just me. On that note, last, we just couldn’t fit everyone. Mike was the only one. And let’s make sure Victor again, Victor GLW. That’s it. Adrian and Enrique.


[01:02:45] I know, of course, you could bond off all everyone across social. But what a great really. Thanks for y’all’s time today. Thanks for y’all’s continued partnership.


[01:02:54] This really send a container feet of community, by the way.


[01:02:58] Yes. But this is this is kind of what we should be doing. You know, love making stories like this. Efforts like this, initiatives like this are visible. So we really appreciate it. OK. So you all sit sit tight for a second as Greg closes out on some of the events we’ve got coming up.


[01:03:16] Oh, my. Are we gonna be busy? If that isn’t enough? And gosh, don’t you think it ought to be? Hey, we’ve got. What’s that from? That’s from Letterman. From the 80s, man, when I was a kid. I’m not a boomer.


[01:03:32] So we’ve got to see SCMP Atlanta roundtable coming up January 15th featuring NASCAR trast. track. Right. Yep. And that you can find out more about that at Atlanta. CSC MP dot org. We’ve got the retail or sorry, the reverse Logistics association conference in Vegas baby February 4th through the 6. That’s RLA dot org. Tony Sheer wrote a great, incredible team. Mayor Emanuel just Trident. They’re trying to solve reverse Logistics problems from the front. Not after the fact. Trying to prevent.


[01:04:08] Speaking of which, we have to get your connect. I mean, yoed really. Tony is out of change world too, because when you think about e-commerce, you think about the returns. You think about sustainability. And you think like we’re talking maybe on the front end this episode. You think about just all all the waste that’s created. Yeah. MBA may have been quite a show anyway.


[01:04:27] Sorry, Nina. I know. I’m sorry. I’m trying to visualize that. I can’t imagine that. We got we got to get them together off camera first. Yes. Right. Yeah. Get them to work out a little. A few.


[01:04:40] You know, I was a little nervous. No, we weren’t nervous. Energy go head to head.


[01:04:46] Lots of kindred spirits. So Moto X 20.


[01:04:50] Right. Thirty five thousand of your closest friends and solving materials, handling problems. That’s March 9th to 12th here in Atlanta, Georgia, World Congress Center. There’s a newly remodeled Georgia World Congress Center.


[01:05:04] It’s also where at least we first cannot get connected with Enrique Internet on the George Prest Logistics Summit.


[01:05:09] All right. All right. So we were all on the executive committee, the board George Logistics summit. Before we knew each other really well. I’m back. We might have tipped an adult beverage or two and talked about things like this.


[01:05:22] I drink coffee. That’s all. Very good. Very good coffee, too. Sheer and ethically sourced.


[01:05:29] Not only will we be streaming live from Moad X again amongst the thirty five thousand of our closest friends, but also Moto X is hosting the 2020 Atlanta Supply chain Awards. So if you’re in Atlanta or in the twenty nine County Metropolitan Service area of Atlanta, nominate yourself, nominate a friend, nominate a company for one of the many categories that we have at Atlanta Supply chain Awards dot com.


[01:05:57] Christian Fisher, CEO sorry. Christian Fisher presidency. of Georgia Pacific is gonna be our keynote speaker and Sharon Cooper will be our M.C.. She’s got an amazing history reader bio on Vetlanta Supply chain side.


[01:06:11] If I’m not mistaken, you are based right here in Roswell. We are right. Yeah. Maybe we’ve gotten close to Tony. Yes. We’re gonna have a new category for Vetlanta. You know, like that jerai category or the something. I love that.


[01:06:25] Let’s talk more about that. But Enrique, thanks for your service. You’re you’re serving on the Vetlanta Supply chain Awards Executive Committee. Appreciate that. And you all support and nominations are taken off yet. Just in the last couple of weeks, we’ve had groups like Dematic, the Clorox Company. Froome Grant has been nominated, Blue Ridge, logia City, a whole slew of both technology companies, manufacturing companies, Logistics companies, you name it. Joining together to celebrate successes across and in Supply chain communi right here.


[01:07:00] You think you deserve a war and a war?


[01:07:02] Nominate yourself and we’ll be the judge of that.


[01:07:07] One last thing. Yeah. One last thing.


[01:07:09] The A.M.E. Association for Manufacturing Excellence, Atlanta. Twenty twenty Lehne Summit is May 4th, the 7th. And we’ll be streaming live from there as well. That’s right. Check us out. Thank you. Don’t hey, don’t run into us while we’re while we’re broadcasting.


[01:07:27] Any good safe distance people?


[01:07:28] That’s right. And you can find all that information on the events tab at Supply Chain Now Radio dot com. Really want to thank our guests today, really enjoy this. This is, you know, each of these good conversations reminds us while we’re doing what we’re doing and it’s been really an honor to walk through the conversation over the last hour and some change. Mike Mahina, president, Throbbed Works Foundation. Adrian Patel Vector Global Logistics. Enrique Alvarez. Also with Vector. Thanks for y’all’s continued partnership. Be sure to our listeners. Check us out. Upcoming events, replays of interviews, other resources at Supply Chain Now Radio dot com. You can find us on Apple podcast. SoundCloud, really all the leading sites where podcast can be found, of course. YouTube. How can we leave out YouTube on behalf of the entire team, including Greg White? This is Scott Luton wishing you a wonderful week ahead and we will see you next time on Supply Chain Now Radio. Thanks, everybody.

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Mike Mannina serves as President of ThriveWorx. With nearly two decades of international experience, including nearly twelve years serving in a variety of policy-making and diplomatic roles in Washington, DC and the Middle East, Mike joined Atlanta’s disruptive coffee startup Thrive Farmers in 2015 to launch the company’s sister international development nonprofit, ThriveWorx. As President of ThriveWorx, Mike leads the organization to empower farming communities to thrive by creating customized, market-based solutions to poverty. Prior to joining ThriveWorx, Mike served as the U.S. Treasury Attaché to Saudi Arabia, as an advisor within various offices of the U.S. Treasury Department, and as a staffer at the White House Homeland Security Council, the Heritage Foundation, and the office of U.S. Senator Johnny Isakson. Mike is a Term Member with the Council on Foreign Relations. He holds business and journalism degrees from the University of Georgia and an MA in Strategic Studies/International Relations from the United States Naval War College. He is an active member of his local church in Roswell, GA, a husband, and a father of three energetic children ages nine, four, and two. Learn more about ThriveWorx:

Adrian Purtill serves as Business Development Manager at Vector Global Logistics, where he consults with importers and exporters in various industries to match their specific shipping requirements with the most effective supply chain solutions. Vector Global Logistics is an asset-free, multi-modal logistics company that provides exceptional sea freight, air freight, truck, rail, general logistic services and consulting for our clients. Our highly trained and professional team is committed to providing creative and effective solutions, always exceeding our customer’s expectations and fostering long-term relationships. With more than 20+ years of experience in both strategy consulting and logistics, Vector Global Logistics is your best choice to proactively minimize costs while having an exceptional service level. Learn more about Vector Global Logistics here:

Enrique Alvarez serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as: Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials and Private banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has a MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean and also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people and spending time with his wife and two kids Emma and Enrique. Learn more about Vector Global Logistics here:


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Nick Roemer

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Nick Roemer has had a very diverse and extensive career within design and sales over the last 15 years stretching from China, Dubai, Germany, Holland, UK, and the USA. In the last 5 years, Nick has developed a hawk's eye for sustainable tech and the human-centric marketing and sales procedures that come with it. With his far-reaching and strong network within the logistics industry, Nick has been able to open new avenues and routes to market within major industries in the USA and the UAE. Nick lives by the ethos, “Give more than you take." His professional mission is to make the logistics industry leaner, cleaner and greener.

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Katherine Hintz

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Katherine Hintz, MBA is a marketing professional who strives to unite her love of people with a passion for positive experiences. Having a diverse background, which includes nonprofit work with digital marketing and start-ups, she serves as a leader who helps people live their most creative lives by cultivating community, order, collaboration, and respect. With equal parts creativity and analytics, she brings a unique skill set which fosters refining, problem solving, and connecting organizations with their true vision. In her free time, you can usually find her looking for her cup of coffee, playing with her puppy Charlie, and dreaming of her next road trip.

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Kim Reuter


From humble beginnings working the import docks, representing Fortune 500 giants, Ford, Michelin Tire, and Black & Decker; to Amazon technology patent holder and Nordstrom Change Leader, Kimberly Reuter has designed, implemented, and optimized best-in-class, highly scalable global logistics and retail operations all over the world. Kimberly’s ability to set strategic vision supported by bomb-proof processes, built on decades of hands-on experience, has elevated her to legendary status. Sought after by her peers and executives for her intellectual capital and keen insights, Kimberly is a thought leader in the retail logistics industry.

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Kristi Porter

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Kristi Porter is VP of Sales and Marketing at Vector Global Logistics, a company that is changing the world through supply chain. In her role, she oversees all marketing efforts and supports the sales team in doing what they do best. In addition to this role, she is the Chief Do-Gooder at Signify, which assists nonprofits and social impact companies through copywriting and marketing strategy consulting. She has almost 20 years of professional experience, and loves every opportunity to help people do more good.

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Sofia Rivas Herrera

Host, Supply Chain Now en Espanol

Sofia Rivas Herrera is a Mexican Industrial Engineer from Tecnologico de Monterrey class 2019. Upon graduation, she earned a scholarship to study MIT’s Graduate Certificate in Logistics and Supply Chain Management and graduated as one of the Top 3 performers of her class in 2020. She also has a multicultural background due to her international academic experiences at Singapore Management University and Kühne Logistics University in Hamburg. Sofia self-identifies as a Supply Chain enthusiast & ambassador sharing her passion for the field in her daily life.

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Demo Perez

Host, Supply Chain Now en Espanol

Demo Perez started his career in 1997 in the industry by chance when a relative asked him for help for two just weeks putting together an operation for FedEx Express at the Colon Free Zone, an area where he was never been but accepted the challenge. Worked in all roles possible from a truck driver to currier to a sales representative, helped the brand introduction, market share growth and recognition in the Colon Free Zone, at the end of 1999 had the chance to meet and have a chat with Fred Smith ( FedEx CEO), joined another company in 2018 who took over the FedEx operations as Operations and sales manager, in 2004 accepted the challenge from his company to leave the FedEx operations and business to take over the operation and business of DHL Express, his major competitor and rival so couldn’t say no, by changing completely its operation model in the Free Zone. In 2005 started his first entrepreneurial journey by quitting his job and joining two friends to start a Freight Forwarding company. After 8 months was recruited back by his company LSP with the General Manager role with the challenge of growing the company and make it fully capable warehousing 3PL. By 2009 joined CSCMP and WERC and started his journey of learning and growing his international network and high-level learning. In 2012 for the first time joined a local association ( the Panama Maritime Chamber) and worked in the country’s first Logistics Strategy plan, joined and lead other associations ending as president of the Panama Logistics Council in 2017. By finishing his professional mission at LSP with a company that was 8 times the size it was when accepted the role as GM with so many jobs generated and several young professionals coached, having great financial results, took the decision to move forward and start his own business from scratch by the end of 2019. with a friend and colleague co-founded IPL Group a company that started as a boutique 3PL and now is gearing up for the post-Covid era by moving to the big leagues.

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Kim Winter

Host, Supply Chain Now

The founder of Logistics Executive Group, Kim Winter delivers 40 years of executive leadership experience spanning Executive Search & Recruitment, Leadership Development, Executive Coaching, Corporate Advisory, Motivational Speaking, Trade Facilitation and across the Supply Chain, Logistics, 3PL, E-commerce, Life Science, Cold Chain, FMCG, Retail, Maritime, Defence, Aviation, Resources, and Industrial sectors. Operating from the company’s global offices, he is a regular contributor of thought leadership to industry and media, is a professional Master of Ceremonies, and is frequently invited to chair international events.

He is a Board member of over a dozen companies throughout APAC, India, and the Middle East, a New Zealand citizen, he holds formal resident status in Australia and the UAE, and is the Australia & New Zealand representative for the UAE Government-owned Jebel Ali Free Zone (JAFZA), the Middle East’s largest Economic Free Zone.

A triathlete and ex-professional rugby player, Kim is a qualified (IECL Sydney) executive coach and the Founder / Chairman of the successful not for profit humanitarian organization, Oasis Africa (www., which has provided freedom from poverty through education to over 8000 mainly orphaned children in East Africa’s slums. Kim holds an MBA and BA from Massey & Victoria Universities (NZ).

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Adrian Purtill

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Adrian Purtill serves as Business Development Manager at Vector Global Logistics, where he consults with importers and exporters in various industries to match their specific shipping requirements with the most effective supply chain solutions. Vector Global Logistics is an asset-free, multi-modal logistics company that provides exceptional sea freight, air freight, truck, rail, general logistic services and consulting for our clients. Our highly trained and professional team is committed to providing creative and effective solutions, always exceeding our customer’s expectations and fostering long-term relationships. With more than 20+ years of experience in both strategy consulting and logistics, Vector Global Logistics is your best choice to proactively minimize costs while having an exceptional service level.

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Kevin Brown

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Kevin Brown is the Director of Business Development for Vector Global Logistics.  He has a dedicated interest in Major Account Management, Enterprise Sales, and Corporate Leadership. He offers 25 years of exceptional experience and superior performance in the sales of Logistics, Supply Chain, and Transportation Management. Kevin is a dynamic, high-impact, sales executive and corporate leader who has consistently exceeded corporate goals. He effectively coordinates multiple resources to solution sell large complex opportunities while focusing on corporate level contacts across the enterprise. His specialties include targeting and securing key accounts by analyzing customer’s current business processes and developing solutions to meet their corporate goals. Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn.

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Jose Miguel Irarrazaval

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Jose Manuel Irarrazaval es parte del equipo de Vector Global Logistics Chile. José Manuel es un gerente experimentado con experiencia en finanzas corporativas, fusiones y adquisiciones, financiamiento y reestructuración, inversión directa y financiera, tanto en Chile como en el exterior. José Manuel tiene su MBA de la Universidad de Pennsylvania- The Wharton School. Conéctese con Jose Manuel en LinkedIn.

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Vicki White


Vicki has a long history of rising to challenges and keeping things up and running. First, she supported her family’s multi-million dollar business as controller for 12 years, beginning at the age of 17. Then, she worked as an office manager and controller for a wholesale food broker. But her biggest feat? Serving as the chief executive officer of her household, while her entrepreneur husband travelled the world extensively. She fed, nurtured, chaperoned, and chauffeured three daughters all while running a newsletter publishing business and remaining active in her community as a Stephen’s Minister, Sunday school teacher, school volunteer, licensed realtor and POA Board president (a title she holds to this day). A force to be reckoned with in the office, you might think twice before you meet Vicki on the tennis court! When she’s not keeping the books balanced at Supply Chain Now or playing tennis matches, you can find Vicki spending time with her husband Greg, her 4 fur babies, gardening, cleaning (yes, she loves to clean!) and learning new things.

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Allison Giddens


Allison Krache Giddens has been with Win-Tech, a veteran-owned small business and aerospace precision machine shop, for 15 years, recently buying the company from her mentor and Win-Tech’s Founder, Dennis Winslow. She and her business partner, John Hudson now serve as Co-Presidents, leading the 33-year old company through the pandemic.

She holds undergraduate degrees in psychology and criminal justice from the University of Georgia, a Masters in Conflict Management from Kennesaw State University, a Masters in Manufacturing from Georgia Institute of Technology, and a Certificate of Finance from the University of Georgia. She also holds certificates in Google Analytics, event planning, and Cybersecurity Risk Management from Harvard online. Allison founded the Georgia Chapter of Women in Manufacturing and currently serves as Treasurer. She serves on the Chattahoochee Technical College Foundation Board as its Secretary, the liveSAFE Resources Board of Directors as Resource Development Co-Chair, and on the Leadership Cobb Alumni Association Board as Membership Chair and is also a member of Cobb Executive Women. She is on the Board for the Cobb Chamber of Commerce’s Northwest Area Councils. Allison runs The Dave Krache Foundation, a non-profit that helps pay sports fees for local kids in need.

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Billy Taylor


Billy Taylor is a Proven Business Excellence Practitioner and Leadership Guru with over 25 years leading operations for a Fortune 500 company, Goodyear. He is also the CEO of LinkedXL (Excellence), a Business Operating Systems Architecting Firm dedicated to implementing sustainable operating systems that drive sustainable results. Taylor’s achievements in the industry have made him a Next Generational Lean pacesetter with significant contributions.

An American business executive, Taylor has made a name for himself as an innovative and energetic industry professional with an indispensable passion for his craft of operational excellence. His journey started many years ago and has worked with renowned corporations such as The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. (GT) leading multi-site operations. With over 3 decades of service leading North America operations, he is experienced in a deeply rooted process driven approach in customer service, process integrity for sustainability.

A disciple of continuous improvement, Taylor’s love for people inspires commitment to helping others achieve their full potential. He is a dynamic speaker and hosts "The Winning Link," a popular podcast centered on business and leadership excellence with the #1 rated Supply Chain Now Network. As a leadership guru, Taylor has earned several invitations to universities, international conferences, global publications, and the U.S. Army to demonstrate how to achieve and sustain effective results through cultural acceptance and employee ownership. Leveraging the wisdom of his business acumen, strong influence as a speaker and podcaster Taylor is set to release "The Winning Link" book under McGraw Hill publishing in 2022. The book is a how-to manual to help readers understand the management of business interactions while teaching them how to Deine, Align, and Execute Winning in Business.

A servant leader, Taylor, was named by The National Diversity Council as one of the Top 100 Diversity Officers in the country in 2021. He features among Oklahoma's Most Admired CEOs and maintains key leadership roles with the Executive Advisory Board for The Shingo Institute "The Nobel Prize of Operations" and The Association of Manufacturing Excellence (AME); two world-leading organizations for operational excellence, business development, and cultural learning.  He is also an Independent Director for the M-D Building Products Board, a proud American manufacturer of quality products since 1920.

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Tandreia Bellamy


Tandreia Bellamy retired as the Vice President of Industrial Engineering for UPS Supply Chain Solutions which included the Global Logistics, Global Freight Forwarding and UPS Freight business units. She was responsible for operations strategy and planning, asset management, forecasting, and technology tool development to optimize sustainable efficiency while driving world class service.

Tandreia held similar positions at the business unit level for Global Logistics and Global Freight forwarding. As the leader of the Global Logistics engineering function, she directed all industrial engineering activies related to distribution, service parts logistics (post-sales support), and mail innovations (low cost, light weight shipping partnership with the USPS). Between these roles Tandreia helped to establish the Advanced Technology Group which was formed to research and develop cutting edge solutions focused on reducing reliance on manual labor.

Tandreia began her career in 1986 as a part-time hourly manual package handling employee. She spent the great majority of her career in the small package business unit which is responsible for the pick-up, sort, transport and delivery of packages domestically. She held various positions in Industrial Engineering, Marketing, Inside and On-road operations in Central Florida before transferring to Atlanta for a position in Corporate Product Development and Corporate Industrial Engineering. Tandreia later held IE leadership roles in Nebraska, Minnesota and Chicago. In her final role in small package she was an IE VP responsible for all aspects of IE, technology support and quality for the 25 states on the western half of the country.
Tandreia is currently a Director for the University of Central Florida (UCF) Foundation Board and also serves on their Dean’s Advisory Board for the College of Engineering and Computer Science. Previously Tandreia served on the Executive Advisory Board for Virginia Tech’s IE Department and the Association for Supply Chain Management. She served on the Board of Trustees for ChildServ (a Chicago child and family services non-profit) and also served on the Texas A&M and Tuskegee Engineering Advisory Boards. In 2006 she was named Business Advisor of the Year by INROADS, in 2009 she was recognized as a Technology All-Star at the Women of Color in STEM conference and in 2019 she honored as a UCF Distinguished Aluma by the Department of Industrial Engineering and Management Systems.

Tandreia holds a bachelor’s degree in Industrial Engineering from Stanford University and a master’s degree in Industrial Engineering and Management Systems from UCF. Her greatest accomplishment, however, is being the proud mother of two college students, Ruby (24) and Anthony (22).

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Marty Parker


Marty Parker serves as both the CEO & Founder of Adæpt Advising and an award-winning Senior Lecturer (Teaching Professor) in Supply Chain and Operations Management at the University of Georgia. He has 30 years of experience as a COO, CMO, CSO (Chief Strategy Officer), VP of Operations, VP of Marketing and Process Engineer. He founded and leads UGA’s Supply Chain Advisory Board, serves as the Academic Director of UGA’s Leaders Academy, and serves on multiple company advisory boards including the Trucking Profitability Strategies Conference, Zion Solutions Group and Carlton Creative Company.

Marty enjoys helping people and companies be successful. Through UGA, Marty is passionate about his students, helping them network and find internships and jobs. He does this through several hundred one-on-one zoom meetings each year with his students and former students. Through Adæpt Advising, Marty has organized an excellent team of affiliates that he works with to help companies grow and succeed. He does this by helping c-suite executives improve their skills, develop better leaders, engage their workforce, improve processes, and develop strategic plans with detailed action steps and financial targets. Marty believes that excellence in supply chain management comes from the understanding the intersection of leadership, culture, and technology, working across all parts of the organization to meet customer needs, maximize profit and minimize costs.

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Laura Lopez

Marketing Coordinator

Laura Lopez serves as our Supply Chain Now Marketing Coordinator. She graduated from Instituto Tecnológico y de Estudios Superiores de Occidente in Mexico with a degree in marketing. Laura loves everything digital because she sees the potential it holds for companies in the marketing industry. Her passion for creativity and thinking outside the box led her to pursue a career in marketing. With experience in fields like accounting, digital marketing, and restaurants, she clearly enjoys taking on challenges. Laura lives the best of both worlds - you'll either catch her hanging out with her friends soaking up the sun in Mexico or flying out to visit her family in California!

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Jake Barr


An acknowledged industry leader, Jake Barr now serves as CEO for BlueWorld Supply Chain Consulting, providing support to a cross section of Fortune 500 companies such as Cargill, Caterpillar, Colgate, Dow/Dupont, Firmenich, 3M, Merck, Bayer/Monsanto, Newell Brands, Kimberly Clark, Nestle, PepsiCo, Pfizer, Sanofi, Estee Lauder and Coty among others. He's also devoted time to engagements in public health sector work with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. At P&G, he managed the breakthrough delivery of an E2E (End to End) Planning Transformation effort, creating control towers which now manage the daily business globally. He is recognized as the architect for P&G’s demand driven supply chain strategy – referenced as a “Consumer Driven Supply Chain” transformation. Jake began his career with P&G in Finance in Risk Analysis and then moved into Operations. He has experience in building supply network capability globally through leadership assignments in Asia, Latin America, North America and the Middle East. He currently serves as a Research Associate for MIT; a member of Supply Chain Industry Advisory Council; Member of Gartner’s Supply Chain Think Tank; Consumer Goods “League of Leaders“; and a recipient of the 2015 - 2021 Supply Chain “Pro’s to Know” Award. He has been recognized as a University of Kentucky Fellow.

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Marcia Williams


Marcia Williams, Managing Partner of USM Supply Chain, has 18 years of experience in Supply Chain, with expertise in optimizing Supply Chain-Finance Planning (S&OP/ IBP) at Large Fast-Growing CPGs for greater profitability and improved cash flows. Marcia has helped mid-sized and large companies including Lindt Chocolates, Hershey, and Coty. She holds an MBA from Michigan State University and a degree in Accounting from Universidad de la Republica, Uruguay (South America). Marcia is also a Forbes Council Contributor based out of New York, and author of the book series Supply Chains with Maria in storytelling style. A recent speaker’s engagement is Marcia TEDx Talk: TEDxMSU - How Supply Chain Impacts You: A Transformational Journey.

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Luisa Garcia

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Luisa Garcia is a passionate Marketer from Lagos de Moreno based in Aguascalientes. She holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from Universidad Autonoma de Aguascalientes, Mexico. She specializes in brand development at any stage, believing that a brand is more than just a name or image—it’s an unforgettable experience. Her expertise helps brands achieve their dreams and aspirations, making a lasting impact. Currently working at Vector Global Logistics in the Marketing team and as podcast coordinator of Logistics With Purpose®. Luisa believes that purpose-driven decisions will impact results that make a difference in the world.

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Astrid Aubert

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Astrid Aubert was born in Guadalajara, she is 39 years old and has had the opportunity to live in many places. She studied communication and her professional career has been in Trade Marketing for global companies such as Pepsico and Mars. She currently works as Marketing Director Mexico for Vector Global Logistics. She is responsible for internal communications and marketing strategy development for the logistics industry. She is a mother of two girls, married and lives in Monterrey. She defines herself as a creative and innovative person, and enjoys traveling and cooking a lot.

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Constantine Limberakis


Constantine Limberakis is a thought leader in the area of procurement and supply management. He has over 20 years of international experience, playing strategic roles in a wide spectrum of organizations related to analyst advisory, consulting, product marketing, product development, and market research.Throughout his career, he's been passionate about engaging global business leaders and the broader analyst and technology community with strategic content, speaking engagements, podcasts, research, webinars, and industry articles.Constantine holds a BA in History from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and an MBA in Finance & Marketing / Masters in Public & International Affairs from the University of Pittsburgh.

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Scott W. Luton

Founder, CEO, & Host

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Greg White

Principal & Host

When rapid-growth technology companies, venture capital and private equity firms are looking for advisory, they call Greg – a founder, board director, advisor and catalyst of disruptive B2B technology and supply chain. An insightful visionary, Greg guides founders, investors and leadership teams in creating breakthroughs to gain market exposure and momentum – increasing overall company esteem and valuation.

Greg is a founder himself, creating Blue Ridge Solutions, a Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader in cloud-native supply chain applications, and bringing to market Curo, a field service management solution. He has also held leadership roles with Servigistics (PTC) and E3 Corporation (JDA/Blue Yonder). As a principal and host at Supply Chain Now, Greg helps guide the company’s strategic direction, hosts industry leader discussions, community livestreams, and all in addition to executive producing and hosting his original YouTube channel and podcast, TEChquila Sunrise.

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Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain is Boring

Talk about world-class: Chris is one of the few professionals in the world to hold CPIM-F, CLTD-F and CSCP-F designations from ASCM/APICS. He’s also the APICS coach – and our resident Supply Chain Doctor. When he’s not hosting programs with Supply Chain Now, he’s sharing supply chain knowledge on the APICS Coach Youtube channel or serving as a professional education instructor for the Georgia Tech Supply Chain & Logistic Institute’s Supply Chain Management (SCM) program and University of Tennessee-Chattanooga Center for Professional Education courses.

Chris earned a BS in Industrial Engineering from Bradley University, an MBA with emphasis in Industrial Psychology from the University of West Florida, and is a Doctoral in Supply Chain Management candidate.

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Tyler Ward

Director of Sales

Tyler Ward serves as Supply Chain Now's Director of Sales. Born and raised in Mid-Atlantic, Tyler is a proud graduate of Shippensburg University where he earned his degree in Communications. After college, he made his way to the beautiful state of Oregon, where he now lives with his wife and daughter.

With over a decade of experience in sales, Tyler has a proven track record of exceeding targets and leading high-performing teams. He credits his success to his ability to communicate effectively with customers and team members alike, as well as his strategic thinking and problem-solving skills.

When he's not closing deals, you can find Tyler on the links or cheering on his favorite football and basketball teams. He also enjoys spending time with his family, playing pick-up basketball, and traveling back to Ocean City, Maryland, his favorite place!

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Kevin L. Jackson

Host of Digital Transformers

Kevin L. Jackson is a globally recognized Thought Leader, Industry Influencer and Founder/Author of the award winning “Cloud Musings” blog.  He has also been recognized as a “Top 5G Influencer” (Onalytica 2019, Radar 2020), a “Top 50 Global Digital Transformation Thought Leader” (Thinkers 360 2019) and provides strategic consulting and integrated social media services to AT&T, Intel, Broadcom, Ericsson and other leading companies. Mr. Jackson’s commercial experience includes Vice President J.P. Morgan Chase, Worldwide Sales Executive for IBM and SAIC (Engility) Director Cloud Solutions. He has served on teams that have supported digital transformation projects for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the US Intelligence Community.  Kevin’s formal education includes a MS Computer Engineering from Naval Postgraduate School; MA National Security & Strategic Studies from Naval War College; and a BS Aerospace Engineering from the United States Naval Academy. Internationally recognizable firms that have sponsored articles authored by him include CiscoMicrosoft, Citrix and IBM.  Books include “Click to Transform” (Leaders Press, 2020), “Architecting Cloud Computing Solutions” (Packt, 2018), and “Practical Cloud Security: A Cross Industry View” (Taylor & Francis, 2016). He also delivers online training through Tulane UniversityO’Reilly MediaLinkedIn Learning, and Pluralsight.  Mr. Jackson retired from the U.S. Navy in 1994, earning specialties in Space Systems EngineeringCarrier Onboard Delivery Logistics and carrier-based Airborne Early Warning and Control. While active, he also served with the National Reconnaissance Office, Operational Support Office, providing tactical support to Navy and Marine Corps forces worldwide.

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Enrique Alvarez

Host of Logistics with Purpose and Supply Chain Now en Español

Enrique serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials, and Private Banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales, and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy, and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has an MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean, and he also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people, and spending time with his wife and two kids, Emma and Enrique.

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Kelly Barner

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Kelly is the Owner and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point and MyPurchasingCenter. She has been in procurement since 2003, starting as a practitioner and then as the Associate Director of Consulting at Emptoris. She has covered procurement news, events, publications, solutions, trends, and relevant economics at Buyers Meeting Point since 2009. Kelly is also the General Manager at Art of Procurement and Business Survey Chair for the ISM-New York Report on Business. Kelly has her MBA from Babson College as well as an MS in Library and Information Science from Simmons College and she has co-authored three books: ‘Supply Market Intelligence for Procurement Professionals’, ‘Procurement at a Crossroads’, and ‘Finance Unleashed’.

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Mary Kate Soliva

Host, Veteran Voices

Mary Kate Soliva is a veteran of the US Army and cofounder of the Guam Human Rights Initiative. She is currently in the Doctor of Criminal Justice program at Saint Leo University. She is passionate about combating human trafficking and has spent the last decade conducting training for military personnel and the local community.

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Amanda Luton

Vice President, Production

Amanda is a production and marketing veteran and entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and organizations including Von Maur, Anthropologie, AmericasMart Atlanta, and Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. Amanda currently manages, produces, and develops modern digital content for Supply Chain Now and their clients. Amanda has previously served as the VP of Information Systems and Webmaster on the Board of Directors for APICS Savannah, and founded and managed her own successful digital marketing firm, Magnolia Marketing Group. When she’s not leading the Supply Chain Now production team, you can find Amanda in the kitchen, reading, listening to podcasts, or enjoying time with family.

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Clay Phillips

Business Development Manager

Clay is passionate about two things: supply chain and the marketing that goes into it. Recently graduated with a degree in marketing at the University of Georgia, Clay got his start as a journalism major and inaugural member of the Owl’s football team at Kennesaw State University – but quickly saw tremendous opportunity in the Terry College of Business. He’s already putting his education to great use at Supply Chain Now, assisting with everything from sales and brand strategy to media production. Clay has contributed to initiatives such as our leap into video production, the guest blog series, and boosting social media presence, and after nearly two years in Supply Chain Now’s Marketing Department, Clay now heads up partnership and sales initiatives with the help of the rest of the Supply Chain Now sales team.

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Trisha Cordes

Administrative Assistant

Trisha is new to the supply chain industry – but not to podcasting. She’s an experienced podcast manager and virtual assistant who also happens to have 20 years of experience as an elementary school teacher. It’s safe to say, she’s passionate about helping people, and she lives out that passion every day with the Supply Chain Now team, contributing to scheduling and podcast production.

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Chantel King

Social Media Manager

My name is Chantel King and I am the Social Media Specialist at Supply Chain Now. My job is to make sure our audience is engaged and educated on the abundant amount of information the supply chain industry has to offer.

Social Media and Communications has been my niche ever since I graduated from college at The Academy of Art University in San Francisco. No, I am not a West Coast girl. I was born and raised in New Jersey, but my travel experience goes way beyond the garden state. My true passion is in creating editorial and graphic content that influences others to be great in whatever industry they are in. I’ve done this by working with lifestyle, financial, and editorial companies by providing resources to enhance their businesses.

Another passion of mine is trying new things. Whether it’s food, an activity, or a sport. I would like to say that I am an adventurous Taurus that never shies away from a new quest or challenge.

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Lori Sofian

Marketing Coordinator

Lori is currently completing a degree in marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing at the University of Georgia. When she’s not supporting the marketing efforts at Supply Chain Now, you can find her at music festivals – or working toward her dream goal of a fashion career. Lori is involved in many extracurricular activities and appreciates all the learning experiences UGA has brought her.

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Katherine Hintz

Director, Customer Experience

Katherine is a marketing professional and MBA candidate who strives to unite her love of people with a passion for positive experiences. Having a diverse background, which includes nonprofit work with digital marketing and start-ups, she serves as a leader who helps people live their most creative lives by cultivating community, order, collaboration, and respect. With equal parts creativity and analytics, she brings a unique skill set which fosters refining, problem solving, and connecting organizations with their true vision. In her free time, you can usually find her looking for her cup of coffee, playing with her puppy Charlie, and dreaming of her next road trip.

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Mary Kate Love

Chief of Staff & Host

Mary Kate Love is currently the VP of marketing at Supply Chain Now focused on brand strategy and audience + revenue growth. Mary Kate’s career is a testament to her versatility and innovative spirit: she has experience in start-ups, venture capital, and building innovation initiatives from the ground up: she previously helped lead the build-out of the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific and before that, MxD (Manufacturing times Digital): the Department of Defense’s digital manufacturing innovation center. Mary Kate has a passion for taking complicated ideas and turning them into reality: she was one of the first team members at MxD and the first team member at the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific.

Mary Kate dedicates her extra time to education and mentorship: she was one of the founding Board Members for Women Influence Chicago and led an initiative for a city-wide job shadow day for young women across Chicago tech companies and was previously on the Board of Directors at St. Laurence High School in Chicago, Young Irish Fellowship Board and the UN Committee for Women. Mary Kate is the founder of National Supply Chain Day and enjoys co-hosting podcasts at Supply Chain Now. Mary Kate is from the south side of Chicago, a mom of two baby boys, and an avid 16-inch softball player. She holds a BS in Political Science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

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Joshua Miranda

Marketing Specialist

Joshua is a student from Institute of Technology and Higher Education of Monterrey Campus Guadalajara in Communication and Digital Media. His experience ranges from Plug and Play México, DearDoc, and Nissan México creating unique social media marketing campaigns and graphics design. Joshua helps to amplify the voice of supply chain here at Supply Chain Now by assisting in graphic design, content creation, asset logistics, and more.  In his free time he likes to read and write short stories as well as watch movies and television series.

Donna Krache

Director of Communications and Executive Producer

Donna Krache is a former CNN executive producer who has won several awards in journalism and communication, including three Peabodys.  She has 30 years’ experience in broadcast and digital journalism. She led the first production team at CNN to convert its show to a digital platform. She has authored many articles for CNN and other media outlets. She taught digital journalism at Georgia State University and Arizona State University. Krache holds a bachelor’s degree in government from the College of William and Mary and a master’s degree in curriculum and instruction from the University of New Orleans. She is a serious sports fan who loves the Braves. She is president of the Dave Krache Foundation. Named in honor of her late husband, this non-profit pays fees for kids who want to play sports but whose parents are facing economic challenges.

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