Supply Chain Now
Episode 795

Trucking is a way of life. You have to love them for that. But the world's changing, if they do not adapt, they're going to be out of business. And there's nothing they can do about it; it's the evolution of humanity and business.

-Mario Pawlowski, CEO of iTrucker

Episode Summary

Today’s business world is consumed with the potential of emerging technologies: digital transformation, automation, blockchain, and AI. And while not everyone is thrilled with the changes that technology is ushering in, there is little chance of slowing it down – let alone stopping it.

Mario Pawlowski is the CEO of iTrucker, an online community dedicated to helping “old school trucking” connect with the new world of digital transportation through social media and technology. Mario has an appreciation for the traditional culture of truck drivers and a passion for new technology – and he is combining them to transform trucking.

In this interview, Mario joins host Scott Luton to talk about his perspective on the challenges that face today’s truck drivers and the opportunities that await them if they are open to what the future has to offer:

– Why AI-piloted drones are the future of final mile logistics, what Mario describes as the “heart of the supply chain”

– The potential applications he sees for blockchain and blockchain-based technologies

– How today’s drivers feel about the progress being made in autonomous vehicles, and why the news is better than they think.

Episode Transcript

Intro/Outro (00:03):

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Scott Luton (00:31):

Hey, good morning, everybody. Scott Luton here with you on supply chain now, welcome to today’s show. Hey, today we’re finally interviewing a big friend of the show. We’re gonna be talk talking about the latest developments areas like last mile delivery drones, and yes, even blockchains say tune for an intriguing and informative conversation. So with that said, y’all buckle up on introduce our guests here today. He’s been described as a daydreamer, a creator, a startup starter, also an influencer and amplifier. And one of my favorites, a culinary passionista most importantly, though, he’s an innovative entrepreneur with his, uh, successful history of working in supply chain, especially in the trucking industry. So join me in welcoming Mario Pawlowski CEO of I trucker Mario, how you doing?

Mario Pawlowski (01:15):

I’m good. How are

Scott Luton (01:16):

You Scott? Doing wonderful. It is so neat to finally be able to meet you in the 2021 version. I, I guess, or maybe 2020 version of in person it’s been a long time coming. Yep.

Mario Pawlowski (01:27):

I, I mean, <laugh> when you said in person. Yeah. It kind of sounds, uh, <laugh> like a 2021 and 2020 in person over the zoom, right.

Scott Luton (01:37):

<laugh> well, I look forward as I’m sure you do of getting out in person maybe, uh, next year and breaking bread together, right.

Mario Pawlowski (01:44):

For sure. For sure. I mean, uh, I would be more than happy to do that, you know, and we not actually not leaving far from each other, you in Atlanta, I believe that’s right. I’m in, uh, Sebastian, Florida, which is, uh, it is, uh, it’s a few hundred miles still, but not that

Scott Luton (01:59):

Far. Well, we’ll make it happen. Maybe we’ll do it a stuck at a, uh, truck stop who knows, but great to have you here today. I’m looking forward to diving into, um, a, a wide range of topics and, uh, what we were gonna start though, we wanna start with, uh, getting to know you a little bit better. So tell us where you grew up and, and give us some anecdotes about that upbringing, Mario.

Mario Pawlowski (02:22):

All right. So, well, I grew up, obviously I was born in, uh, Poland. Uh, I grew up there, uh, but, uh, since I was a teen, I was hungry, you know, to see the, you know, the world, you know, especially Western world, you know, because when I was a kid, when I grew up, I was still communist in Poland. So we basically, you know, we are prohibited, you know, to learn English, we’re prohibited, you know, to go abroad, you know, unless he was going to Russia or Ukraine or countries like this, the Eastern black countries. Right. But in 1989, uh, I was, uh, 19 nine. I was about 14 at this time when the communis collapsed cause of the, he started the whole movement and the borders opened. And when I was 17, uh, I moved to Belgium. Okay. For a few, uh, few months. Uh, I started learning French a little bit cuz Belgium, you know, um, do

Scott Luton (03:19):

You still speak French?

Mario Pawlowski (03:21):

Not really, but I have French partners and I’m actually about to start learning again. I, I, I know some words, I remember some things, but I was 17 I’m 47 now. So that was 30 years ago. So it’s kind of long time. So basically, uh, we were going, uh, I was going to, you know, all over the Western Europe, you know, Germany, France, uh, like, uh, as I mentioned before, uh, I was, uh, living in Belgium, uh, for some time came back to Poland. And then when I was, uh, 21, between 21, 22, that was 1997. I moved to New York city, uh, where my grandma was there. My father, uh, he also lived there in 1980. There was even same apartment. Uh, so I moved there, uh, to New York city. That was the best thing will happen in my life. Uh, I love New York city <laugh> well what’s

Scott Luton (04:14):

So let’s talk about that for a second. Uh mm-hmm <affirmative> two quick follow up questions. Number one, to live in all of these different regions and cultures and cities, was that, um, was that, how do you view that? Was that really tough to kind of make new friends each stop? Or do you see that as an advantage apart, you know, made you who you are?

Mario Pawlowski (04:31):

Absolutely advantage. Okay. Nothing tough. I mean, there was some tough things, but you know, uh, I’m kind of person, you know, uh, it’s kind of, you know, like a, I really love to meet people, you know? Right. I really love to talk to people. I really love to, you know, like, uh, meet the new cultures and everything else. So basically I, it started in Western Europe, but the New York city was a kind of game changer for me. Okay. When I moved there, I actually, my mind change, like, uh, totally. Uh, there was something that was the experience, which actually set the way I’m thinking right now.

Scott Luton (05:09):

Okay. So let’s, let’s talk really quick about that. Cause I wanna get the food before we get into the heavy stuff. So you said New York city is your favorite place in the world. What’s one thing, just one thing you love about New York city

Mario Pawlowski (05:21):

Mean, uh, the is no other city in the walls I ever be in like New York city. It’s a kettle of everything, especially food restaurants, you know, nightlife. I mean, I was 21, you know, imagine me coming 21 to Brooklyn, New York. Right. And then, you know, going to Manhattan and everywhere, you know, restaurants, uh, uh, you know, I was working in a restaurant, you know, in Manhattan. Okay. It, it was just, you know, great experience. It was just unbelievable experiences actually set the course of my life, you know? Wow.

Scott Luton (05:54):

Well, so, and I, on that note, you said that New York city to, to your point there, it had changed how you, you viewed the world. Yes. Tell, tell me about that. What, how did that impact your worldview?

Mario Pawlowski (06:05):

Uh, it seemed, it’s opened my mind basically. Uh, it’s opened my eyes, you know, uh, I came from Poland, you know, Poland is kind of, you know, you can say conservative country. Okay. I mean, at least half of it. Uh, and you know, the point of, uh, I mean, people were trying, you know, to put some, you know, things in my head, which I didn’t, I wasn’t feeling comfortable with that. I knew I was following it, but I wasn’t comfortable with that. When I moved to New York city, uh, in mother of months, everything changed my mind opened, uh, on the wall, on everything else. And it, it was just liberating. Yep. I mean, basically, yeah. That’s what you said, you know, you liberate my mind, you know, let my mind go. You know,

Scott Luton (06:52):

<laugh> love it. The art of the possible, it sounds like really took some blinders off. Um, so you, you mentioned, um, one of the things, many things that New York is a capital of is food. And you worked in a restaurant as, and we share that I worked in a restaurant, although I, I was never a chef or a cook. I was a server, a bartender, uh, um, a bus, a bus boy, uh, bus tables for one really tough summer in Columbia, South Carolina didn’t make a whole bunch of money, but it taught me many things about people. And it taught me also, which is, is, um, one of my favorite lessons. I try to instill in my kids, we gotta level those folks. Those, those are some hard working folks that help make things happen. And, um, one of my least favorite things is see people that are rude, uh, or just, uh, to, to our servers.

Mario Pawlowski (07:40):

So tell me, tell me about it. Uh, I hate it. I was, I, I also was working when I was working in a restaurant. I was a small, basically Polish American restaurant in Manhattan on the, I’m not sure that was on the first avenue and seventh street. It was called therea. There, uh, is close right now. Uh, and I was, I was working there. I was only one guy and I was like, uh, maybe 17 womans in the kitchen, you know? So you can imagine <laugh>

Scott Luton (08:08):

You learned a lot, right? Oh, I learned a lot smarter

Mario Pawlowski (08:11):

From it. So, and I started as a dishwasher actually. Okay. In the few days, uh, actually the owner of the restaurant, uh, there actually that was the name in the restaurant was the name Theresa. She figured out that I can cook. Wow. So there was a, you know, there was a master chef, she was a woman and, you know, she, she, she was really great, you know, but she was also, you know, very kind of like, you know, uh, strict about everything. Right, right. Let let’s put it that way. <laugh> but she also figured out that, you know, I can cook, you know, so, and, and the other thing is, you know, the, all of these people, you know, all of the womens, you know, they, they were kind of like, kind of like a picking on me, you know? So I basically, you know, I was, and I’m not the person, you know, to pick on, you know, right.

Mario Pawlowski (08:54):

Like <laugh>, I’m gonna fight back right away, you know? So, but after, you know, after the kind of like a, a period of two, three weeks, right. We were all going along, you know, and, you know, I was, you know, doing dishwashing job, I was cooking. I was, you know, uh, basically like putting food on the, an arrange on the place and everything. And then, you know, the job was so intense. I remember the, the restaurant was so busy. Basically. Sometimes I was working 14 hours a day for seven days a week. Wow. I was coming back home. I was just falling asleep, waking up, going there. And after, you know, a few months, I basically, I said to the, uh, owner, uh, I’m quitting. I can’t do it right. Burn out,

Scott Luton (09:36):

Burnt out. That’s, that’s something, of course, I think a lot of folks listening to hear today, whether they worked in a restaurant or not, that is a prevalent, um, a prevalent feeling across industry, uh, given the last couple years that we’ve been working through. Um, so Mario, I, I feel like you, and I could kick off maybe a new culinary podcast and have plenty based on your passion. That would be great. That would

Mario Pawlowski (09:58):

Be cool. That would be really cool. <laugh>

Scott Luton (10:00):

Well, who knows? We may just do that, but in the meantime folks, uh, uh, one of the, you know, so Mario’s got a big following across social, but y’all check him out what he’s dropped in supply chain chow on our Facebook group for some of his gorgeous dishes. Um, so one, one last question about food, and then we’re gonna get into I trucker and, and what you’re doing there. Right? What is, um, it doesn’t have to be your all time favorite dish. It could be a recent favorite, but what’s one of the, one of the, your dishes that is one of your favorite ones to prepare and serve others.

Mario Pawlowski (10:30):

Great question. Uh, there’s actually two dishes. Well, I mean, there there’s much more, I mean, there’s a lot of dishes, but I can tell you what I love and what, um, you know, people I’m serving, you know, like, uh, my friends when I’m, you know, inviting, you know, for a, for a Christmas or, you know, whatever, you know, the, you know, like the dinners. Right. I love steaks. Okay. I, I’m crazy. I’m obsessed with the dry age steaks. Okay. And rare, dry air, age, state six. So I was so obsessed from, there was a restaurant in New York city over a hundred years old. It’s called Peter Luer steakhouse. I dunno if you heard about it, you heard part. Okay. So Peter Luer steakhouse, I was leaving basically a few streets from the PI Luer steakhouse when I moved to United States to Brooklyn. Okay. When, when I went there, first time, first ball, I had to wait in the line.

Mario Pawlowski (11:20):

Uh, the tables were empty, like a half empty, and the manager was standing like this. Okay. And I was next to the bar with my friend and we were waiting for the table and I was asking like, uh, listen, the tables are open. And he was like, uh, uh, no, they all reserved. And he was looking at us and waiting, so they have to give him 50 bucks. Okay. And was okay, which table you want? When I had the steak, I fall in love with that. Wow. Steak and the sauce. It, it just unbelievable. You know, then I start learning about, you know, dry engine process. Okay. It’s taking, uh, anywhere from month to, you know, two, sometimes three months, you know, depends. And after years I was so obsessed with that. I actually developed an idea. I was actually, uh, reading some chemistry, some, uh, some other things, you know, and combining with my recipes. And I come up with the idea to dry age, the single steak. Okay. In mother of three days,

Scott Luton (12:11):

Three days. Okay. You’re gonna have to,

Mario Pawlowski (12:14):

You’re gonna have to it taste it, it tastes even, I wanna say it tastes better than Peter Luer <laugh> it tastes great. It’s not maybe, you know, that, you know, tender. Right. But the taste is just unbelievable, you know? And I can tell you that, you know, this is my best, you know, your question, your question, this is the best thing, what I love to do. Plus I love the French and Italian kitchen and I’m making fusion, French, Italian, and Polish kitchen together. I’m gonna,

Scott Luton (12:45):

So you’re gonna have to, we’re gonna have to get together and you’re gonna have to, uh, make, prepare your, uh, Mario Pavlovsky version of the Peter Luer fame, steak three days aged. I love we’re gonna get

Mario Pawlowski (12:58):

Together. We’re gonna make it. I love to do it. I would love to, I would love to cook for cook for people. You know, that’s what brings me a joy, you know, agreed. It’s not for myself, I’m cooking junk food. <laugh>, you know, for myself, you know, just, just to know, eat, but if it’s coming to cooking for somebody, then know,

Scott Luton (13:14):

Uh, it’s gotta be the real deal

Mario Pawlowski (13:16):

I’m changing in my, I mean, things changing in my head. Right. You know, I love to cook for the people, you know, and even when I’m cooking for the people, I usually not eating, you know, too much <laugh> well, so I just love people to enjoy, you know, I just love my friends and whatever, you know, who’s eating it, you know, to enjoy, you know, what, I that’s, that that’s bring me a joy, you know, that’s bring me this feeling, you know, that people, you know, appreciate it. And they like it. Yes. And it make me feel good, you know? Yes, Mario,

Scott Luton (13:43):

It’s, it you’re exuding that passion, you know, I could always tell in our other interactions kind of across social and whatnot that you loved it, but you, it, you can feel your passion for cooking. So we’ll revisit that down the road a little bit in the meantime though. So today, uh, we wanna get a lot of your expertise in POV, uh, across logistics, transportation, supply, you name it. And I wanna start with, um, what you’re doing at I trucker. Uh, so tell us about, I trucker and tell us about your role there and what you do.

Mario Pawlowski (14:11):

Well, uh, I’m a founder and CEO of I trucker and my wife, of course, she’s a president of iTracker, uh, Margaret, uh, she can, you see her, you know, around the social media, around me, she’s also kind of, uh, you know, uh, right now she’s getting like a gaining momentum, really good, you know, wonderful. So basically, uh, yeah, we started, uh, as I mentioned before we started, uh, the initial idea was, uh, for a load board that was in the end of 2016, beginning of 2017. Then after a few months, one of my, uh, friends, uh, he actually gave me an idea about the ELD because the ELD was coming. Okay. And the ELD, if I, uh, if I remember good, that was, uh, implemented in the December 17th, 2017. Sounds about right. Yep. Yeah. So basically he gave me this idea, so we actually stopped developing the load board per and we started developing, you know, the, uh, ELD project, which right now I can tell that was one of the worst decision I made in my life.

Mario Pawlowski (15:18):

Really. Yeah. So basically, because, you know, I’m very picky. Okay. I’m, uh, I can see, you know, if somebody’s developed my developers, developing the websites for us and I’m seeing the pixel it’s off, I’m basically, you know, getting mad, you know, so I know it, it’s very annoying for it. It’s ADHD, all kind of thing. You know, it’s very annoying for me, you know, because it’s sometimes taking time to, you know, uh, and you know, people don’t see it. I see it, you know? Right. And which is, which is, you know, which is kind of annoying. You see, it’s kind of, uh, slow down the progress of development, but you, you’re making things. It’s my fault. It’s my fault.

Scott Luton (15:56):

But you’re making things better though. And, and,

Mario Pawlowski (15:57):

And it takes you at the end. Yes, yes. At the end. But anyway, so basically a tracker was that. And then, you know, when we started developing the ELD at one point, uh, because, you know, ELD is a software connector with the hardware, hardware is gonna went to the OBD port in the, uh, track or whatever back, you know, was using ELD. So basically, uh, there was an issue at the end with the connecting the software with the hardware. We had the hardware from company from Michigan, and basically the hardware, you know, looks good. We went to a show to the, um, that show in Dallas in 2017, we met the people there from Michigan and they basically, uh, they gave us, uh, you know, the hardware, but my, uh, ex-partners developers, they couldn’t connect it, you know, really the software. So you weren’t

Scott Luton (16:47):

Happy with how the tech technology product ended

Mario Pawlowski (16:50):

Up playing out? No. No. So based, so then you pivoted, right? No, basically, uh, at one point I actually, uh, actually I, I suspend the project because, you know, I wasn’t happy and I didn’t want to, you know, I mean, the project protocol was working. Everything was working, but it wasn’t working properly. So basically in my mind, if I want to sell something to, you know, to, to the people, to the, my, uh, customers. Okay. Uh, if the product is not right, I don’t wanna sell it because, you know, it’s, it’s pointless, you know, to get, uh, bad feedback and then, you know, make, uh, you know, trouble for the people. So basically I suspend the project because of that, you know? Okay. Because I wasn’t happy with the,

Scott Luton (17:33):

Well, so, so let’s talk about app trucker and its current in, um, incarnation. What is it? So what, what do y’all do today?

Mario Pawlowski (17:40):

Okay, so, well, uh, we, after that, we put it, uh, we basically suspend a whole light packer project, but at one point we realized we start getting, you know, lots of, uh, followers on social media. OK. When we realized that we open a group okay. Which is called trackers or past present in future. Yep. Which right now we have, uh, about 100, 5,000 members. Wow.

Scott Luton (18:05):

That’s on Facebook. And is it another places beyond Facebook where it’s Facebook book that

Mario Pawlowski (18:08):

No, it’s Facebook, Facebook, it’s Facebook, it’s a group. It’s not a page, you know, there’s difference between, you know, page like a business page. Like we have a art tracker page we have about, uh, I don’t know, 90 something thousand followers. And, uh, the group is a different thing group. It’s more engaging. Well basically all the members can pause the things, you know, there is different members posting different things, you know, it’s 24 hour job because we have to, you know, manage the group. So Facebook is managing us <laugh> we have to manage the group. So, you know, you know, you know, tracking industry, you know, trackers. Right, right, right. They do not, you know, really like, uh, uh, thinking when they, you know, using about the wording, you know what I mean? <laugh> so Facebook is very strict about it. They try, I mean, Facebook algorithms, right?

Mario Pawlowski (18:58):

So you gotta intelligence power at algorithms, which is kind of funny because this AI power at algorithms, they not working properly because they basically deleting, you know, suspending members for us without our knowledge. Cause they’re using words and they basically, uh, this algorithms, they taking this word are out of the context, you know, using so, and all the members they actually writing to us and they about like, Hey, why I’m suspended? And I have to explain, we didn’t suspend you, Facebook suspend you. They say, no, you work with Facebook. And we are like, no, we don’t. <laugh>

Scott Luton (19:39):

So active moderation, clearly a group that big, um, I can appreciate how big of a job that is, but I love how you’re engaging, uh, that demographic, that very important demographic, uh, that helps make global business and certainly global supply chain happen. Um, so y’all check out iTracker the group on Facebook. And of course, no,

Mario Pawlowski (19:57):

Actually it’s a iTracker is a page. That’s right. That’s right. iTracker is a iTracker is we have a website, uh, which is, you know, iTracker. We, there is a news and, uh, we actually preparing a few other things and uh, and there iTracker, uh, and there is a group which is called, uh, crackers of past present in the future.

Scott Luton (20:15):

That’s right. My, my apologies, I got that wrong. Y’all checked that out. Uh, it, I love the imagery that comes out of that. I joined not too long ago and, and to see some of the beautiful machines, the artistic machines, and then, and then some of the, uh, other banner takes place is pretty cool. Um, so let’s, I, I wanna move Mario, uh, into, um, some of your take on what we’re seeing across, uh, currently across global supply chain kind of hot topics, or, or maybe not so hot. Uh, but they’re intriguing to say the least. So I wanna start with last mile delivery. Cause if anything’s really gotten, uh, a lot more challenging and, and you know, that was getting challenging before the pandemic, the pandemic just has continued to make it more challenging. Tell us about what’s going on there. And, and some of your thoughts there with mass last mile

Mario Pawlowski (21:03):

Delivery last mile delivery is, uh, you know, kind of, you know, part of the supply chain, you know, supply chain is, uh, only in the United States, I believe is, uh, 8% of the GDP, which is brilliance. Okay. It’s huge. Okay. Right. Last my delivery is it’s of course, you know, it’s been what it’s been it’s last, my delivery, which mean like Amazon or, uh, you know, fat, whatever, you know, who’s delivering. So basically, uh, what I’m taking right now, uh, well, I mean, it’s a huge issue because, you know, the backlogs of the, you know, of the, by the ports, you know, all the, you know, the, uh, cargo ships, you know, waiting to be unloaded and all the things. So it’s like a domino effect basically. So, you know, demeanor effects when you, you know, you just kick one, you know, piece of the, everything is going through like this.

Mario Pawlowski (21:54):

No. And that’s where it is. And it is going from the beginning, from the shipper through the port, uh, to the tracking company and then to the last mile deliver. Okay. So, uh, in my opinion, you, the drones are the future of last mile, the especially lightweight, lightweight, last mile delivery, which has been small items. You know, there are, you know, bunch of, uh, drawings, uh, a bunch of companies they develop in different drones, like, you know, WinCo, WinCo is one of, you know, I believe they work with ups and, uh, uh, I don’t know with, for us, with Walgreens, for sure. Right. They are delivering, you know, like, uh, vaccines or, you know, or, uh, which is great, you know, like a, a medication for the disabled people, you know, imagine, imagine that, you know, somebody is disabled, you know, and the drunk can bring you the life saving medicine, like, you know, like, uh, for diabetes. So never I’m diabetic type too. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, I don’t have to take insulin insulin. I have, I’m taking the medicine. I have to, you know, uh, be a good boy from time to time. Hard, hard to be a good B from

Scott Luton (23:00):

<laugh>. I understand. Hey, on, so drones, I know is one of your favorite things favorite, uh, develop across industry. And to your point, though, it is gonna help us uncover so much more capacity in this last mile and get around some of the challenges and constraints there. What what’s, if you, if you think about what you’ve seen lately from drones, you were describing some of the ups and Wal Walgreens and, and some of the healthcare applications, but what else, when it comes to drones, what else have you seen recently? That’s cool. And give us a, a bold prediction when it comes to drones for next year.

Mario Pawlowski (23:33):

I’m a, I’m a fear believer in drones. You know, I, I really love it. Uh, I actually, uh, I, I just, uh, we just opening a blog, which is called last mile error and, and, uh, it’s gonna be all about the, you know, the last mile, the lightweight, you know, delivery. So basically my prediction about drones is gonna grow like, uh, unbelievably the few things, you know, we have to, uh, you know, uh, think about it’s. Uh, first of all, uh, you know, the delivery in the urban areas, like a very dense urban areas, let’s say, for example, New York city, right? Imagine, you know, New York city and imagine the bunch of drone buzzing, you know, between the buildings. Right, right. And every drone right now, right now, every drone have a pilot to just, uh, personal like me and you behind the computer, you know, and you, you are looking at the computer screen and you see the drone, there is a camera at the drone, and you basically navigate this drone.

Mario Pawlowski (24:38):

So for the massive drone delivery, let’s say we would need to use artificial intelligence because, you know, imagine in the New York city, hundreds of drones between the buildings, they’re gonna crash, they’re gonna drop down. They can kill the people. Human cannot do it. It’s, it’s, it’s impossible. It’s not like, you know, uh, uh, uh, basically managing, you know, the airplanes on the airport because they big, okay. There is not so many of them there, the, you know, the space where the airplanes, you know, I mean is, is huge, but the drones gonna be in the very, you know, dense areas, right? So basically without artificial intelligence and automation of navigating this drones, there is gonna be not really possible to do it on the massive scale. That’s my take on it, unless it’s gonna be on the remote areas. Okay. Remote areas are easy. There is no obstacles. Even if these drones are getting more advanced, every basic they have, uh, they, they can, you know, navigate autonomously. They can avoid, you know, obstacles and everything. This is fine, but still in the, for the, like a, uh, massive implementation of the drones and drone delivery without artificial intelligence is not gonna be possible. That’s my tip.

Scott Luton (26:10):

Okay. That is, um, so much more there. We’re gonna have to, I, I got some of the things I want, I wanna chat with you about, so for a sake of time, I’m gonna keep moving. Uh, I, I love the pit, the future that you’re painting. And I, I generally agree with you, um, you know, how can we, how can we open up automation for that, uh, last mile air? I love that. So check out your blog article, um, and create more capacity, get around some of these constraints and, and, and serve people better while keeping everything safe and operation safe. It’s gonna be, that’s gonna be quite a challenge moving ahead. Okay. So beyond how exciting things and developments are taking place in the drone arena, and I love your, your bold and fearless prediction about what’s to come next year and beyond. Let’s talk about blockchain for a minute, because that is equally as exciting. It’s transforming many aspects of global business and so much more to come. I love seeing the really practical, uh, applications that we’ve seen. It seems like there’s the, the drum beats getting bigger and louder, which is a good thing, but what’s one of your favorite applications, uh, Mario, when it comes to blockchain and follow up question, are we still just scratching the surface with the

Mario Pawlowski (27:17):

Technology? Absolutely. I can tell you the, I can answer the second question. We’re scratching the surface.

Scott Luton (27:23):

Okay. That’s the easy one, huh? What’s

Mario Pawlowski (27:25):

So, yeah, with scratching the surface, because, you know, uh, we I’m all into blockchain also because blockchain is, it is basically maybe not equally to artificial intelligence, but it is like a inventing another wheel. So, uh, my favorite blockchain application. Wow. That’s a question, you know, hard to answer, uh, for me, because there’s so many of it, like for, for example, uh, well, besides the crypto, of course, <laugh> right. Besides the crypto NFTs metaverse okay. Everything else is gonna be connected with the blockchain without the blockchain. Uh, it’s almost impossible, you know, I mean, it would be almost impossible, you know, to do some business in the next, I don’t know how many, let’s say few, one decade. I’m not sure exactly. I don’t wanna, you know, make the prediction because I’m not of the, you know, position to really, you know, make this prediction.

Mario Pawlowski (28:27):

I can, you know, I can tell you my point of view. So basically I love the blockchain cause the blockchain can be used in the supply chain. This is actually great because look at this, what’s going on right now with the backlog and, uh, uh, with the, you know, the ships floating, uh, of the cost, California, all the, everything, you know, is there. So basically, uh, even, you know, uh, I saw this joke, you know, <laugh> on my group, uh, that, uh, the winter is in the container floating of the coast of California. That’s why we didn’t have a winter yet. <laugh>,

Scott Luton (29:02):

That’s good. I, I was still that one from you. Uh, but so, but I think that’s a, that’s, that’s a fascinating take you’re, you’re not, you know, I know you don’t wanna make a bold prediction, a prediction on this, but, but what you’re suggesting is that not too many years down the road, you know, if you don’t know, if, if you don’t have blockchain technology baked into how you do business and conduct transactions, you may be out in the cold, uh, absolutely intended. Right?

Mario Pawlowski (29:27):

Absolutely. I was saying that, uh, when I was, uh, in 2018, I believe I was, uh, invited to the, uh, to the, uh, panel, uh, from the freight waves from Craig fuller. Oh yeah, for sure. Oh yeah. Uh, there was even article, uh, and that was my first panel was actually the first time, uh, you know, like, uh, on the stage with the audience in my life, I was, I was terrified and I was with the really big brains, you know, next to me. And I was like, oh my God. So, but I was saying since then, if the tracking industry supply chain industry not gonna start implementing the technology into their business, they’re gonna be out of business. Mm-hmm <affirmative> right now I can say same thing about the blockchain connected with artificial intelligence, but we’re talking about the blockchain. So I’m predicting that the blockchain we’re gonna take over everything because the blockchain it’s really, really, this technology is basically look at the crypto.

Mario Pawlowski (30:28):

Imagine, you know, uh, imagine the, you know, contracts, you know, smart contracts, uh, because that’s basically what, that’s, what it’s called smart contracts between shipper carrier and, you know, between them. So basically if they use the blockchain, because the problem is everybody have to agree to work on certain blockchain. Okay. And let’s say if the shipper carrier and, you know, uh, shipper, broker and carrier, you know, which is usually that way, shipper, broker, and carrier, they will use the blockchain. There is, uh, based, uh, because you know, about the issue when the brokers, you know, trying to cheat the carriers, uh, shippers trying, you know, to change some things, you know, and, uh, like a payments with the brokers and it’s is basically, you know, ending up that the truck drivers or owners, operators, or companies, you know, gearing, uh, usually a, uh, you know, um, at the end they use, they use the suffering right with the blockchain. That wouldn’t be possible. Right. Because when they agree to the deal, when they build the block on the blockchain, there is no way to change it without everybody noticing this. Right. That’s how the blockchain works. So in the supply chain industry, it’s, it’s, uh, for me, it is, it’s basically perfect solution.

Scott Luton (31:47):

Mm, okay. So, uh, let’s see here, we’ve covered, uh, drones, we’ve covered, uh, certainly last model delivery. We, we’ve now covered blockchain. I want to get to one of, I know your favorite topics and, and certainly one of our favorite topics, a topic, and, um, driven by people that are oftentimes, don’t really all the time. Don’t get enough recognition. Let’s talk about the trucking industry and, and truck drivers. So I want to ask you, Mario, um, what do you believe is, uh, the top one or two challenges facing the trucking industry? Well,

Mario Pawlowski (32:21):

Okay. So I’m very, I’m very, we are, are very close to trackers. You know, I’m very close. Like I said, you know, the group, the page, uh, I have many friends which are, you know, real, like I, you know, back to the bone trackers, right. For the last 30, 40 years, we know many of them, we going to the shows, uh, we are meeting all of them and on the group, I’m engaging, I’m talking to them every day, you know, like, uh, every day, all the time, me, my wife, Margaret. So when we running the group, so, uh, they have many, you know, issues, the most challenging issue issue right now. Uh, what they worry about is autonom track. OK. So basically driverless, you know, track, they really worry. They’re gonna lose their jobs. And they, you know, cause you know, the tracking in United States is bit different than all over the world, right.

Mario Pawlowski (33:17):

Tracking in United States is not just the tracking is the way of life is how they living, how they feeling, the whole families are attached to that. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s for them is the biggest, uh, like challenge, you know, and the, the biggest worry is autonomous tracking. And that’s what they talking about, you know? Okay. Uh, besides all the government and DLT over, over, uh, kind of like, you know, over, over regulation, maybe over regulat, which is crazy, we just, you know, regulation over. Regulation’s like a taco with Theto it’s inside the taco and the pizza and with the cherry on the top <laugh>

Scott Luton (33:56):

I love the culinary visual. So let me ask you this. Um, and I’m not trying to be devil’s advocate. Uh, I, we hear a lot of takes here at supply chain now. And, and I’ll be the first to tell you, you know, I’ve never driven a truck. Uh, I’m not a trucking expert. We we’ve, uh, interviewed several, which we, we love those stories cause they’re not, they just don’t get enough attention to appreciation, but you know, automation, certainly the March, uh, and March is right, right on. Um, do you believe that, um, we are gonna be able to rebuild the, the trucking population folks that are willing to, uh, drive a truck for a living, um, or do you, do you believe eventually automation will replace some of the trucking routes and, and those still want to drive a truck? Maybe, maybe the nature of the position will evolve a bit. What, what, what, when you, when you look at what’s to come, where do you see us going? Well, I’m,

Mario Pawlowski (34:50):

I mean, I have this idea for a long time. So basically because obviously, you know, we are in the technology, you know, uh, business and, uh, I mean, not exactly in the business, but, you know, uh, we basically, you know, talking about it all the time on the social media, you’re big

Scott Luton (35:07):

Advocate for the trucking industry, right. You’re, you’re an, an expert and, and you got your

Mario Pawlowski (35:11):

Finger on, I’m not an expert come on. No, I’m not an expert. Um, I know some things let’s put it that way. Okay. Fair enough. And I’m also, you know, me and my wife in the, you know, uh, on the Twitter, which is, you know, we, we, we are talking about the, you know, everything, you know, from autonomous vehicles, artificial intelligence, which is all, all interconnected because you know, they, uh, uh, autonomous vehicles are gonna be driven by artificial intelligence anyway. So basically, uh, about the tracking, what I’m seeing. Okay. So it’s not bad, but it’s not also, uh, that good for, uh, trackers, especially for the old school trackers. Okay. But you have to look on this from this point of view. Okay. Uh, when we were younger, there were certain things we like it. Okay. And these things are gone already and we have to adapt to the new world and every generation have to adapt to something new and every generation gonna be, uh, saying, oh, the old times were, were much better.

Mario Pawlowski (36:17):

Remember that? Yeah. Now look at this, these kids with the, you know, iPhones, you know, I’m spending my iPhone, remind me yesterday, you know, my iPhone remind me that I spent 12 hours a day, which is crazy, which when I find out yesterday, I was like, oh, ma Mario, you have to talk to yourself about it. You know? So anyway, back to the autonomous, uh, I’m sorry to the tracking and, you know, uh, autonomous tracking. So you, you know, there’s five levels of autonomy, right. We right now between level, uh, let’s say about level three. Okay. Uh, which is, uh, absolutely not fully autonomous. So what I’m seeing in about next decade, 10 years, uh, we’re gonna go to maybe, uh, level four autonomy, which is still gonna require, you know, the track driver, even if we’re gonna go to the full autonomy, let’s say in 10, 15 years, whatever, because, uh, the, the, okay, the technology is here.

Mario Pawlowski (37:14):

Right. But, uh, we have to look at the, uh, not only technology, even, even Musk says that autonomous technology is 98 point something, uh, here. Right. But the last, you know, point something present is most important. Massive. So let me explain you that way. If you building a house it’s kind of easy to build a house, the most challenging things is the insights, you know, how you’re finishing the insights. Okay. It’s taking Mo most time, it’s most challenging, same with the autonomous, you know, tracking and everything else, you know, connected to that. But what I’m seeing, I’m seeing this on the bright side, which, uh, I’m sure that all school trackers wouldn’t agree with it be, but I’m seeing, uh, because you know, old school trackers every, basically over the road, OTR tracker is always complaining about the most thing they complaining is because they cannot see the families, they over the road for, uh, weeks, months.

Mario Pawlowski (38:15):

Okay. So my idea, when they complaining that, imagine that next 10 years owning autonomous trucks as a owner operator, right. It’s one truck, okay. You’re sending this truck over the road, you’re staying with the family. You’re making money. Maybe you’re gonna make less, more. I don’t know. I’m not sure how much it’s gonna be. And if you want it, you can go, if you wanna go on the trip, just jumping into autonomous track, or you can even take your family, you know, for the track and still make money. So I’m seeing this that way. As I said, you know, I I’m sure that the old school trackers, you know, would the agree, they would say probably something like this, you know, we, we like smell of diesel and we like to be over girl <laugh>. And, and I understand them. I understand

Scott Luton (39:02):

Them. There’s lot of passion, lots of positions of passion.

Mario Pawlowski (39:05):

Right. It’s a, as I said, it’s a way of life. Right. You really love them for that. But if again, the world’s changing, that’s what you said. Right. If they do not gonna adapt, they’re gonna be out of business pair. Okay. And, and, and there’s nothing they really can do, you know, like about it there it’s, it’s, it’s basically evolution of humanity and business, that’s

Scott Luton (39:26):

It. Right. Right. Well, and, and, uh, on top of what you’re describing, you know, um, when industry and supply chain global business there’s constraints that have been here for quite some time, they’re gonna find a way to address it, regardless of whatever profession, whatever sector and, and, you know, and, and generally speaking, you know, for consumers, that’s a good thing. Uh, and for industry, that’s a good thing. So I love your idea. I love your idea that for truckers that wanna stay in and embrace automation and still still have that profession, it just, it just has evolved a bit. They can, they can make money and, and have a living a different way. I think that’s a, a really cool vision. We’ll have to, um, we’ll have to reconnect in about 10 years and see where things stand and what it comes to the trucking industry. Let’s

Mario Pawlowski (40:09):

See. Let’s, let’s see. My prediction’s gonna,

Scott Luton (40:13):

You know, I think it’s, I think, uh, I, I agree with you, Mario, and I think it’s just about inevitable. Um, the, the, to your point, a lot of the technologies already here is those last couple of percentage points that are, that are most critical. That’s gonna ensure the success, the efficiency, the accuracy, the safety and productivity,

Mario Pawlowski (40:34):

Safety, that’s, that’s, that’s, you know, even right now, you know, like, uh, even in our cars, we driving, you know, last few years, you know, I, we used to me and Mon we used to, uh, own, uh, uh, limo and, uh, you know, uh, black car company in Chicago before, before Uber took cover and basically kick us out from the business <laugh>, but we used to own, and I remember I got in 2015, we got like four cars. One of the cars was a catalog Escalade, right. Uh, ESV, which is longer version that was over like a, you know, a hundred thousand dollars. I don’t remember, but that was like, oh my God, that was like a beautiful, beautiful car. It had everything, you know, like a, when you, basically, when you was changing the line without, you know, without, uh, um, how do you call the, uh, oh my God. <laugh> English is my second language. Uh,

Scott Luton (41:26):

I’m still, Hey, uh, if I could talk a second language as well as you talk English, I mean, gosh, I should, I should have stuck with Spanish way back in the day, Mario, cuz you know, it’s important to be bilingual. So you’re inspiring me to, to pick up another language.

Mario Pawlowski (41:41):

It’s great to start language. I, I, I, I’m speaking in three languages, speaking in Polish, English and Russian I’m reading and writing in, you know, in all of these languages, I have some partners in Ukraine. They, uh, I also speak some of UK Korean. So Ukrainian is different than Russian and how you

Scott Luton (41:57):

Do it well, so, so, um, let’s talk, I wanna let you finish your thought. You were talking about a limo company y’all used to own and operate up in Chicago. What’s that final thought there?

Mario Pawlowski (42:08):

Well, basically you look, I was talking, I’m sorry. I was talking about the, you know, like, uh, the technology in the cars, you know, so basically you re that was in 2015, that was brand new cars and they already had the, uh, the cars already had the technology, you know, when you was changing the line, it was notifying you, if you was changing the line or going, you know, like a little bit, you know, off the road or something, it was basically, you know, uh, breaking that out, pushing the brake, right. If it was detection of possible collision. Right. So that was in 2015,

Scott Luton (42:40):

But the driver couldn’t, couldn’t just ignore all of that, I think is one of the points you’re making. It’s like, it’s like at commercials these days for the latest trucks with, with, with some of the, uh, automated cruise control, you don’t see them, like after they said it, jump in a back, making a sandwich,

Mario Pawlowski (42:57):

You see them kinda. Absolutely. No, I mean, there is like a, let’s say WMO for, for example. Right, right. Uh, they have like, they, one of the, you know, like a greatest or too simple, you know, name it, you know, the companies, uh, they already, I mentioned that before the technology is here, but, uh, it’s not only about technology. It’s about the infrastructure. It’s about, uh, the laws about the insurance laws, you know, it, it, it’s not there yet. So, you know, with the technology, it is like, I kind of have a raw diamond. You have to, you know, you have to Polish this, you know, to make it, you know, like, uh, nice. You know, so that’s what it is basically. That’s what I’m thinking. So we’re still sometimes away because there is gonna be much of obstacles, including infrastructure and, uh, people actually gearing into it. Uh,

Scott Luton (43:53):

Still, still a little bit a bridge to, for are we got some more work to do to make it widely adopted and we have utilized. So Mario one last thing before we, uh, make sure folks know how to connect with you, I want to pick your brain on the metaverse. It is fascinating. Uh, here lately, you got, you got real estate runs on a metaverse, you’ve got all these different applications. It is unbelievable. Yeah. So tell us, how do you see the first, if you could, in your terms, what is the metaverse and also how do you see global supply chain leveraging it?

Mario Pawlowski (44:26):

Wow. That’s, that’s a great question. I mean, I don’t know where to start. I will start that, uh, uh, with that. Okay. So we basically, uh, we have a secret startup with developing, which is okay. Actually Metabo startup. Okay. So, uh, it’s called averse. Okay. And, uh, basically metaverse is internet is 0.4. That’s how I see it. Okay. Okay. And what I’m thinking, everything will meet in metaverse at one point, and I’m not talking about the meta, you know, about the Facebook. Okay. Because you know, they in trouble, they, you know, they just trying to change things. You know, they basically in deep, deep trouble, there is companies which started before even Facebook, you know, right in VI, uh, Microsoft is already, you know, doing this there’s, uh, the central, like you mentioned companies buying land, which doesn’t really exist. It exist only in the metaverse for millions of dollars in about, I’m not sure, you know, uh, don’t quote me on that, on that.

Mario Pawlowski (45:36):

But I believe in last month or two, uh, companies spent more than a hundred million on the nonexisting, uh, land, which is only existing in the metaverse. Okay. Unbelievable. It really is. And they gonna be developing, we also developing something, we also got piece of land too. And you know, the company, the central land is kind of leading thing, which is, you know, um, kind of cool thing. So basically what’s the metaverse is everything is gonna need there, including the supply chain. Yeah. Future of war. Right. We we’re gonna be the right now. I have the Oculus to, uh, quest, right. Uh, the, you know, with the headset. Okay. Yeah. It’s great. It’s cool. But it’s, it’s very uncomfortable, you know, it’s very uncomfortable. So basically, you know, the, the, when the technology is gonna get better, the glass is gonna be smaller. So, you know, it’s gonna be connected with the, a augmented reality virtual reality, right.

Mario Pawlowski (46:36):

Extended reality is gonna meet all in MetAware. So basically you’re gonna have a sunglasses. You’re gonna immersive immersive technology is where we’re headed. It sounds like to me. Yep. When you, you are gonna be just walking, you know, on the street, you’re gonna walk into the mall and you will see all the things, you know, Al augment it and, you know, names, even name of, for example, you’re gonna be walking by the tree. You will see the, if you wanted the name of the tree, you know, like a, what the tree is, or you will see the, uh, restaurant, when you’re gonna be passing the restaurant, you will see the menu, you know, in the, you know, like a, on the right side of your eye or something. This is a augment reality. But if you sit down on the bench and you’re gonna go all in into metaverse, then you won’t see the walls around, you know, but if somebody gonna walk to you and tell you, Hey, uh, Scott, and, you know, everything is gonna be disconnected.

Mario Pawlowski (47:26):

You will see the guy, you know, so basically metaverse for me is a future. Okay. It’s a future for every, we all gonna meet at the, in the metaverse imagine this, imagine, imagine this for the, again, you know, I wanna bring the disabled people. Cause you know, I’m really, really like, you know, I’m about the environment and, you know, people who cannot move or do all people imagine how this can help disabled or all people who living alone. Yeah. Yeah. This is something, you know, which can change their lives from being just alone in the house and they cannot move and just watch, you know, the TV and whatever TD is saying to being in the different world, meeting the friends, who’s also dis in the other part of the Wolf. Mm mm.

Scott Luton (48:12):

Imagine that. So you’re seeing it’s, it’s gonna be an inclusive technology. It’s gonna be a game changing technology with lots of practical applications to, uh, uh, retail applications, to experiential applications, you name it, uh, including, uh, clearly, uh, a re real estate market, perhaps unlimited real estate market. I don’t know. Uh, I’ve got a lot more

Mario Pawlowski (48:35):

Something, something else about the real estate market, you know, that, you know, it’s gonna be also, you know, the blockchain is big part of the, uh, metaphor. So this real estate market is actually all built on blockchain. That’s why, you know, people paying so much money and, uh, the blockchain is, you know, connected with the NFTs, you know, what the NFT is. Right. So, uh, my, uh, uh, my stepson, uh, my wife, uh, son, uh, his, uh, I’ll give you an example. He’s he just turned 70 about three weeks ago, right. He made in a mother of one minute, 120,000 hundred, 23,000, exactly dollars. Wow. I don’t know how many ER, rooms he sold the NFT, which was, uh, basically pumpkin with the, like a vampire. That basically, that was just a picture of this. He actually won the lottery, you know, uh, he engaged, uh, he, he was involved author. He had to pay like a $1,500. And basically one of the NFP, uh, creator was sending to some people and actually he received it in his crypto wallet and he sent it next second from $123,000. Unbelievable. He made basically 100 2100 in the mother of second.

Scott Luton (49:54):

Wow. Okay. We’re gonna have to <laugh> we we’ll have to talk about that story next time. Take a deep dive. Uh, I love, uh, the, the, uh, entrepreneurial play there, evidently, uh, and sounds like, um, sounds like he might be a chip off the old block, but Mario, uh, I really enjoyed, this is kind been like a basket Robbins at, so we’ve talked about so many different things, uh, impacting, not just supply chain, but global business. Um, we talk about food. We’ll have to talk more about that next time you come with us. Oh, sure. But how can folks connect with you? And I trucker, what, what where’s, um, you know, you got a new blog, you got new businesses, you’ve got the massive Facebook groups. How can folks connect with you? Well,

Mario Pawlowski (50:32):

The best way to connect with, with us is, uh, you know, on Twitter, which is, uh, <inaudible> is Pavlosky Mario. My wife’s handle is Margaret. She SI okay. And they connect with us, you know, on the iTracker and page. It’s a Facebook page and iTracker, uh, I’m sorry. And the Facebook, uh, group, which is called tracker. So past present and future plus of course, last mile, which is a drone delivery business. We just starting this and our newest venture is, uh, about our,

Scott Luton (51:08):

I love it, man. You got so much going on. I look forward to reconnecting with you soon. I’ll I’ll be looking, we’re gonna connect. I’m gonna get, I’m gonna get that three day age, draw steak. I made by chef Mario coming up soon. We we’ll

Mario Pawlowski (51:20):

Meet soon. Anytime. I would love to come to a plant and cook for you just to do that. <laugh> let’s just to do that because for me, for me, it’s, uh, the biggest pleasure. The biggest pleasure I have is I told you, I, I, I, for myself, I’m cooking quick, you know? Right.

Scott Luton (51:35):

<laugh> right. I’m with you for

Mario Pawlowski (51:37):

People. I love them entertain, enjoy my, I, I love them to enjoy when they enjoy it. I feel so good. I’m going to sleep. Like people enjoy it. And they like, and I feel good and it actually make my mind, you know, to work, to make it even

Scott Luton (51:53):

Better. Okay. Well, you know, I, I see a restaurant in your future soon, uh, based on the passion and, and your expertise there, but we’re have to leave it for there for now. I’ve been chatting with, uh, Mario, uh, Pavlosky CEO of IRA, and it’s been fascinating to spend some time with I Mario. Uh, I look forward to reconnecting with you soon.

Mario Pawlowski (52:14):

It was great to talk to you, Scott, and thank you for inviting me. And I really, uh, I hope we can, you know, reconnect soon and let’s keep in touch, you know, on social media, like we’ll always do. And thank you very much. And I’ll talk to you soon. Bet.

Scott Luton (52:30):

So let so on that. Yes. Hey, uh, happy holidays. Merry Christmas, happy new year to you, Mario Merry Christmas. Yes. To you, to our listeners. Hopefully you’ve gotten, uh, as much joy out of this conversation with Mario, as I have. I’ll tell you, uh, if it feels like if we hook up Mario to, uh, the power grid, we can power cities for months at a time, he’s got a lot of passion, energy, and expertise. Love what he does. Hey, make sure you connect with him and follow him, uh, at, at, uh, we’re gonna make it easy. We’re gonna put links to those groups and those pages in the show notes. So you’re one click away in the meantime. Hey, if you enjoy conversations like this, be sure. Check us out at supply chain. Now, wherever you get your podcast from or@supplychainnow.com most importantly folks, Hey, supply

Mario Pawlowski (53:12):

Chain rocks. That’s

Scott Luton (53:13):

<laugh> supply chain rocks. That’s right. Hey, challenge. Scott Luton here challenge you to do the most important, take the most important steps, um, uh, that there are do good. Give forward. Be the change that’s needed. Be just like Mario here and on that note, we see next time, right back here on supply chain now. Thanks your buddy. Thank you.

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Mario Pawlowski is the CEO at iTrucker, influencer at Social Noizz, and CVO @ AVATAVERSE. He is a daydreamer, creator, startup starter, and social media influencer, amplifier, (over 250,000) followers on all social media channels combined). He is passionate about Emerging Technologies, Metaverse, Supply Chain, AI, AR, VR, BlockChain, Crypto, Crypto Art, NFTs, and futuristic technologies. Chef, food, fashion, and an art lover. Mario is a business owner with a demonstrated history of working in the transportation/trucking/supply chain industry. He is highly skilled in social media marketing and influencing, negotiation, budgeting, business planning, operations management, and coaching. HE is a strong entrepreneurship professional with a passion for everything he does, including inventing and creating, always looking for new opportunities. Connect with Mario on LinkedIn.

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Adrian Purtill serves as Business Development Manager at Vector Global Logistics, where he consults with importers and exporters in various industries to match their specific shipping requirements with the most effective supply chain solutions. Vector Global Logistics is an asset-free, multi-modal logistics company that provides exceptional sea freight, air freight, truck, rail, general logistic services and consulting for our clients. Our highly trained and professional team is committed to providing creative and effective solutions, always exceeding our customer’s expectations and fostering long-term relationships. With more than 20+ years of experience in both strategy consulting and logistics, Vector Global Logistics is your best choice to proactively minimize costs while having an exceptional service level.

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Joshua Miranda

Marketing Specialist

Joshua is a student from Institute of Technology and Higher Education of Monterrey Campus Guadalajara in Communication and Digital Media. His experience ranges from Plug and Play México, DearDoc, and Nissan México creating unique social media marketing campaigns and graphics design. Joshua helps to amplify the voice of supply chain here at Supply Chain Now by assisting in graphic design, content creation, asset logistics, and more.  In his free time he likes to read and write short stories as well as watch movies and television series.

Patch Reilly

Data Analytics and Metrics Intern

Patch is a fourth-year Management Information Systems and Marketing major at the University of Georgia. He is working with Supply Chain Now in data analysis, finding insights and best practices to increase company efficiency. Patch previously worked as an intern at AnswerRocket, a data analytics company where he gained invaluable knowledge about analytics, webpage SEO and B2B marketing best practices. In his free time, he enjoys playing tennis, going to concerts, and watching movies.

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Vicki White

Controller

Vicki has a long history of rising to challenges and keeping things up and running. First, she supported her family’s multi-million dollar business as controller for 12 years, beginning at the age of 17. Then, she worked as an office manager and controller for a wholesale food broker. But her biggest feat? Serving as the chief executive officer of her household, while her entrepreneur husband travelled the world extensively. She fed, nurtured, chaperoned, and chauffeured three daughters all while running a newsletter publishing business and remaining active in her community as a Stephen’s Minister, Sunday school teacher, school volunteer, licensed realtor and POA Board president (a title she holds to this day). A force to be reckoned with in the office, you might think twice before you meet Vicki on the tennis court! When she’s not keeping the books balanced at Supply Chain Now or playing tennis matches, you can find Vicki spending time with her husband Greg, her 4 fur babies, gardening, cleaning (yes, she loves to clean!) and learning new things.

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Scott W. Luton

Founder, CEO, & Host

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Allison Giddens

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Allison Krache Giddens has been with Win-Tech, a veteran-owned small business and aerospace precision machine shop, for 15 years, recently buying the company from her mentor and Win-Tech’s Founder, Dennis Winslow. She and her business partner, John Hudson now serve as Co-Presidents, leading the 33-year old company through the pandemic.

She holds undergraduate degrees in psychology and criminal justice from the University of Georgia, a Masters in Conflict Management from Kennesaw State University, a Masters in Manufacturing from Georgia Institute of Technology, and a Certificate of Finance from the University of Georgia. She also holds certificates in Google Analytics, event planning, and Cybersecurity Risk Management from Harvard online. Allison founded the Georgia Chapter of Women in Manufacturing and currently serves as Treasurer. She serves on the Chattahoochee Technical College Foundation Board as its Secretary, the liveSAFE Resources Board of Directors as Resource Development Co-Chair, and on the Leadership Cobb Alumni Association Board as Membership Chair and is also a member of Cobb Executive Women. She is on the Board for the Cobb Chamber of Commerce’s Northwest Area Councils. Allison runs The Dave Krache Foundation, a non-profit that helps pay sports fees for local kids in need.

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Greg White

Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain Now and TECHquila Sunrise

When rapid-growth technology companies, venture capital and private equity firms are looking for advisory, they call Greg – a founder, board director, advisor and catalyst of disruptive B2B technology and supply chain. An insightful visionary, Greg guides founders, investors and leadership teams in creating breakthroughs to gain market exposure and momentum – increasing overall company esteem and valuation.

Greg is a founder himself, creating Blue Ridge Solutions, a Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader in cloud-native supply chain applications, and bringing to market Curo, a field service management solution. He has also held leadership roles with Servigistics (PTC) and E3 Corporation (JDA/Blue Yonder). As a principal and host at Supply Chain Now, Greg helps guide the company’s strategic direction, hosts industry leader discussions, community livestreams, and all in addition to executive producing and hosting his original YouTube channel and podcast, TEChquila Sunrise.

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Chris Barnes

Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain is Boring

Talk about world-class: Chris is one of the few professionals in the world to hold CPIM-F, CLTD-F and CSCP-F designations from ASCM/APICS. He’s also the APICS coach – and our resident Supply Chain Doctor. When he’s not hosting programs with Supply Chain Now, he’s sharing supply chain knowledge on the APICS Coach Youtube channel or serving as a professional education instructor for the Georgia Tech Supply Chain & Logistic Institute’s Supply Chain Management (SCM) program and University of Tennessee-Chattanooga Center for Professional Education courses.

Chris earned a BS in Industrial Engineering from Bradley University, an MBA with emphasis in Industrial Psychology from the University of West Florida, and is a Doctoral in Supply Chain Management candidate.

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Karin Bursa

Host of TEKTOK

If there’s one Supply Chain ‘Pro to Know,’ it’s Karin. She’s earned the title for three years and counting – culminating in her designation as the “2020 Supply Chain Pro to Know of the Year.” Karin is also an award-winning digital supply chain, business strategy and technology marketing executive. A sought-after speaker at industry conferences, you will find her quoted in a variety of supply chain publications – and active in forums like ASCM/APICS and CSCMP.

With more than 25 years of supply chain experience, Karin spearheaded strategy and marketing for Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader and IDC MarketScape Leader, Logility. Karin has the heart of a teacher and has helped nearly 1,000 customers transform their businesses and tell their success stories. Today, she is a sought-after advisor helping high-growth B2B technology companies with everything from defining their unique value propositions to introducing new products and capturing customer success. No matter their goals, she makes sure her clients have actionable marketing strategies that help grow global revenue, market share and profitability.

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Kevin L. Jackson

Host of Digital Transformers

Kevin L. Jackson is a globally recognized Thought Leader, Industry Influencer and Founder/Author of the award winning “Cloud Musings” blog.  He has also been recognized as a “Top 5G Influencer” (Onalytica 2019, Radar 2020), a “Top 50 Global Digital Transformation Thought Leader” (Thinkers 360 2019) and provides strategic consulting and integrated social media services to AT&T, Intel, Broadcom, Ericsson and other leading companies. Mr. Jackson’s commercial experience includes Vice President J.P. Morgan Chase, Worldwide Sales Executive for IBM and SAIC (Engility) Director Cloud Solutions. He has served on teams that have supported digital transformation projects for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the US Intelligence Community.  Kevin’s formal education includes a MS Computer Engineering from Naval Postgraduate School; MA National Security & Strategic Studies from Naval War College; and a BS Aerospace Engineering from the United States Naval Academy. Internationally recognizable firms that have sponsored articles authored by him include CiscoMicrosoft, Citrix and IBM.  Books include “Click to Transform” (Leaders Press, 2020), “Architecting Cloud Computing Solutions” (Packt, 2018), and “Practical Cloud Security: A Cross Industry View” (Taylor & Francis, 2016). He also delivers online training through Tulane UniversityO’Reilly MediaLinkedIn Learning, and Pluralsight.  Mr. Jackson retired from the U.S. Navy in 1994, earning specialties in Space Systems EngineeringCarrier Onboard Delivery Logistics and carrier-based Airborne Early Warning and Control. While active, he also served with the National Reconnaissance Office, Operational Support Office, providing tactical support to Navy and Marine Corps forces worldwide.

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Enrique Alvarez

Host of Logistics with Purpose and Supply Chain Now en Español

Enrique serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials, and Private Banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales, and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy, and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has an MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean, and he also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people, and spending time with his wife and two kids, Emma and Enrique.

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Kelly Barner

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Kelly is the Owner and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point and MyPurchasingCenter. She has been in procurement since 2003, starting as a practitioner and then as the Associate Director of Consulting at Emptoris. She has covered procurement news, events, publications, solutions, trends, and relevant economics at Buyers Meeting Point since 2009. Kelly is also the General Manager at Art of Procurement and Business Survey Chair for the ISM-New York Report on Business. Kelly has her MBA from Babson College as well as an MS in Library and Information Science from Simmons College and she has co-authored three books: ‘Supply Market Intelligence for Procurement Professionals’, ‘Procurement at a Crossroads’, and ‘Finance Unleashed’.

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Jamin Alvidrez

Founder & CEO, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain Now, Veteran Voices, This Week in Business History

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Jeff Miller

Host

Jeff Miller is the host of Supply Chain Now’s Supply Chain is the Business.  Jeff is a digital business transformation and supply chain advisor with deep expertise in Industry 4.0, ERP, PLM, SCM, IoT, AR and related technologies. Through more than 25 years of industry and consulting experience, he has worked with many of the world’s leading product and service companies to achieve their strategic business and supply chain goals, creating durable business value for organizations at the forefront of technology and business practices. Jeff is the managing director for North America at Transition Technologies PSC, a global solution integrator, and the founder and managing principal of BTV Advisors, a firm that helps companies secure business transformation value from digital supply chain technologies and their breakthrough capabilities.

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Amanda Luton

Chief Marketing Officer

Amanda is a marketing veteran and entrepreneur with over 15 years of experience across a variety of industries and organizations including Von Maur, Anthropologie, AmericasMart Atlanta, and Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. In 2016, Amanda founded and grew the Magnolia Marketing Group into a successful digital media firm, and now she develops modern marketing strategies, social campaigns, innovative operational processes, and implements creative content initiatives for Supply Chain Now. But that’s just the beginning of her supply chain impact. Amanda also served as the VP of Information Systems and Webmaster on the Board of Directors for APICS Savannah for several years, and is the face behind the scenes welcoming you to every Supply Chain Now livestream! She was also recently selected as one of the Top 100 Women in Supply Chain by Supply Chain Digest and IBM.  When she’s not leading the Supply Chain Now marketing team, you can find Amanda with her and her husband Scott’s three kids, in the kitchen cooking, or singing second soprano in the Grayson United Methodist Church choir.

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Clay Phillips

Business Development Manager

Clay is passionate about two things: supply chain and the marketing that goes into it. Recently graduated with a degree in marketing at the University of Georgia, Clay got his start as a journalism major and inaugural member of the Owl’s football team at Kennesaw State University – but quickly saw tremendous opportunity in the Terry College of Business. He’s already putting his education to great use at Supply Chain Now, assisting with everything from sales and brand strategy to media production. Clay has contributed to initiatives such as our leap into video production, the guest blog series, and boosting social media presence, and after nearly two years in Supply Chain Now’s Marketing Department, Clay now heads up partnership and sales initiatives with the help of the rest of the Supply Chain Now sales team.

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Trisha Cordes

Administrative Assistant

Trisha is new to the supply chain industry – but not to podcasting. She’s an experienced podcast manager and virtual assistant who also happens to have 20 years of experience as an elementary school teacher. It’s safe to say, she’s passionate about helping people, and she lives out that passion every day with the Supply Chain Now team, contributing to scheduling and podcast production.

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Billy Taylor

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Billy Taylor is a Proven Business Excellence Practitioner and Leadership Guru with over 25 years leading operations for a Fortune 500 company, Goodyear. He is also the CEO of LinkedXL (Excellence), a Business Operating Systems Architecting Firm dedicated to implementing sustainable operating systems that drive sustainable results. Taylor’s achievements in the industry have made him a Next Generational Lean pacesetter with significant contributions.

An American business executive, Taylor has made a name for himself as an innovative and energetic industry professional with an indispensable passion for his craft of operational excellence. His journey started many years ago and has worked with renowned corporations such as The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. (GT) leading multi-site operations. With over 3 decades of service leading North America operations, he is experienced in a deeply rooted process driven approach in customer service, process integrity for sustainability.

A disciple of continuous improvement, Taylor’s love for people inspires commitment to helping others achieve their full potential. He is a dynamic speaker and hosts "The Winning Link," a popular podcast centered on business and leadership excellence with the #1 rated Supply Chain Now Network. As a leadership guru, Taylor has earned several invitations to universities, international conferences, global publications, and the U.S. Army to demonstrate how to achieve and sustain effective results through cultural acceptance and employee ownership. Leveraging the wisdom of his business acumen, strong influence as a speaker and podcaster Taylor is set to release "The Winning Link" book under McGraw Hill publishing in 2022. The book is a how-to manual to help readers understand the management of business interactions while teaching them how to Deine, Align, and Execute Winning in Business.

A servant leader, Taylor, was named by The National Diversity Council as one of the Top 100 Diversity Officers in the country in 2021. He features among Oklahoma's Most Admired CEOs and maintains key leadership roles with the Executive Advisory Board for The Shingo Institute "The Nobel Prize of Operations" and The Association of Manufacturing Excellence (AME); two world-leading organizations for operational excellence, business development, and cultural learning.  He is also an Independent Director for the M-D Building Products Board, a proud American manufacturer of quality products since 1920.

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Allie Krasinski

Marketing Coordinator

Allie is currently completing a degree in marketing with a certificate in entrepreneurship at the University of Georgia. She got her social media start through an internship with Shred, a personal training app, and she’s been hooked ever since. She works to optimize our following base while assisting the team with content creation, influencer outreach and other marketing endeavors. Allie can’t wait to keep growing alongside Supply Chain Now.

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Lori Sofian

Marketing Coordinator

Lori is currently completing a degree in marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing at the University of Georgia. When she’s not supporting the marketing efforts at Supply Chain Now, you can find her at music festivals – or working toward her dream goal of a fashion career. Lori is involved in many extracurricular activities and appreciates all the learning experiences UGA has brought her.

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Jada Carson

Marketing Coordinator

Jada is a recent graduate of Old Dominion University, having earned her Bachelor of Science degree in Communications with a media studies concentration and marketing minor. Jada got her start producing content at 16 years old, while attending a radio and broadcasting journalism program in high school, and hasn't looked back!  She is an asset to the Supply Chain Now team as a media specialist, podcast and media producer, and production coordinator.  Outside of Supply Chain Now, Jada is a big Lakers fan, and also a music journalist and enthusiast.

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Ben Harris

Host

Ben Harris is the Director of Supply Chain Ecosystem Expansion for the Metro Atlanta Chamber. Ben comes to the Metro Atlanta Chamber after serving as Senior Manager, Market Development for Manhattan Associates. There, Ben was responsible for developing Manhattan’s sales pipeline and overall Americas supply chain marketing strategy. Ben oversaw market positioning, messaging and campaign execution to build awareness and drive new pipeline growth. Prior to joining Manhattan, Ben spent four years with the Georgia Department of Economic Development’s Center of Innovation for Logistics where he played a key role in establishing the Center as a go-to industry resource for information, support, partnership building, and investment development. Additionally, he became a key SME for all logistics and supply chain-focused projects. Ben began his career at Page International, Inc. where he drove continuous improvement in complex global supply chain operations for a wide variety of businesses and Fortune 500 companies. An APICS Certified Supply Chain Professional (CSCP), Ben holds an Executive Master’s degree in Business Administration (EMBA) and bachelor’s degree in International Business (BBA) from the Terry College at the University of Georgia.

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Page Siplon

Host, The Freight Insider

Prior to joining TeamOne Logistics, Page Siplon served as the Executive Director of the Georgia Center of Innovation for Logistics, the State’s leading consulting resource for fueling logistics industry growth and global competitiveness. For over a decade, he directly assisted hundreds of companies to overcome challenges and capitalize on opportunities related to the movement of freight. During this time, Siplon was also appointed to concurrently serve the State of Georgia as Director of the larger Centers of Innovation Program, in which he provided executive leadership and vision for all six strategic industry-focused Centers. As a frequently requested keynote speaker, Siplon is called upon to address a range of audiences on unique aspects of technology, workforce, and logistics. This often includes topics of global and domestic logistics trends, supply chain visibility, collaboration, and strategic planning. He has also been quoted as an industry expert in publications such as Forbes, Journal of Commerce, Fortune, NPR, Wall Street Journal, Reuters, American Express, DC Velocity, Area Development Magazine, Site Selection Magazine, Inbound Logistics, Modern Material Handling, and is frequently a live special guest on SiriusXM’s Road Dog Radio Show. Siplon is an active industry participant, recognized by DC Velocity Magazine as a “2012 Logistics Rainmaker” which annually identifies the top-ten logistics professionals in the Nation; and named a “Pro to Know” by Supply & Demand Executive Magazine in 2014. Siplon was also selected by Georgia Trend Magazine as one of the “Top 100 Most Influential Georgians” for 2013, 2014, and 2015. He also serves various industry leadership roles at both the State and Federal level. Governor Nathan Deal nominated Siplon to represent Georgia on a National Supply Chain Competitiveness Advisory Committee, where he was appointed to a two-year term by the U.S. Secretary of Commerce and was then appointed to serve as its vice-chairman. At the State level, he was selected by then-Governor Sonny Perdue to serve as lead consultant on the Commission for New Georgia’s Freight and Logistics Task Force. In this effort, Siplon led a Private Sector Advisory Committee with invited executives from a range of private sector stakeholders including UPS, Coca-Cola, The Home Depot, Delta Airlines, Georgia Pacific, CSX, and Norfolk Southern. Siplon honorably served a combined 12 years in the United States Marine Corps and the United States Air Force. During this time, he led the integration of encryption techniques and deployed cryptographic devices for tactically secure voice and data platforms in critical ground-to-air communication systems. This service included support for all branches of the Department of Defense, multiple federal security agencies, and aiding NASA with multiple Space Shuttle launches. Originally from New York, Siplon received both a bachelor’s and master’s degree in electrical and computer engineering with a focus on digital signal processing from the Georgia Institute of Technology. He earned an associate’s degree in advanced electronic systems from the Air Force College and completed multiple military leadership academies in both the Marines and Air Force. Siplon currently lives in Cumming, Georgia (north of Atlanta), with his wife Jan, and two children Thomas (19) and Lily (15).

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Kristi Porter

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Kristi Porter is VP of Sales and Marketing at Vector Global Logistics, a company that is changing the world through supply chain. In her role, she oversees all marketing efforts and supports the sales team in doing what they do best. In addition to this role, she is the Chief Do-Gooder at Signify, which assists nonprofits and social impact companies through copywriting and marketing strategy consulting. She has almost 20 years of professional experience, and loves every opportunity to help people do more good.

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Kevin Brown

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Kevin Brown is the Director of Business Development for Vector Global Logistics.  He has a dedicated interest in Major Account Management, Enterprise Sales, and Corporate Leadership. He offers 25 years of exceptional experience and superior performance in the sales of Logistics, Supply Chain, and Transportation Management. Kevin is a dynamic, high-impact, sales executive and corporate leader who has consistently exceeded corporate goals. He effectively coordinates multiple resources to solution sell large complex opportunities while focusing on corporate level contacts across the enterprise. His specialties include targeting and securing key accounts by analyzing customer’s current business processes and developing solutions to meet their corporate goals. Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn.

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Sofia Rivas Herrera

Host, Supply Chain Now en Espanol

Sofia Rivas Herrera is a Mexican Industrial Engineer from Tecnologico de Monterrey class 2019. Upon graduation, she earned a scholarship to study MIT’s Graduate Certificate in Logistics and Supply Chain Management and graduated as one of the Top 3 performers of her class in 2020. She also has a multicultural background due to her international academic experiences at Singapore Management University and Kühne Logistics University in Hamburg. Sofia self-identifies as a Supply Chain enthusiast & ambassador sharing her passion for the field in her daily life.

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Jose Miguel Irarrazaval

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Jose Manuel Irarrazaval es parte del equipo de Vector Global Logistics Chile. José Manuel es un gerente experimentado con experiencia en finanzas corporativas, fusiones y adquisiciones, financiamiento y reestructuración, inversión directa y financiera, tanto en Chile como en el exterior. José Manuel tiene su MBA de la Universidad de Pennsylvania- The Wharton School. Conéctese con Jose Manuel en LinkedIn.

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Demo Perez

Host, Supply Chain Now en Espanol

Demo Perez started his career in 1997 in the industry by chance when a relative asked him for help for two just weeks putting together an operation for FedEx Express at the Colon Free Zone, an area where he was never been but accepted the challenge. Worked in all roles possible from a truck driver to currier to a sales representative, helped the brand introduction, market share growth and recognition in the Colon Free Zone, at the end of 1999 had the chance to meet and have a chat with Fred Smith ( FedEx CEO), joined another company in 2018 who took over the FedEx operations as Operations and sales manager, in 2004 accepted the challenge from his company to leave the FedEx operations and business to take over the operation and business of DHL Express, his major competitor and rival so couldn’t say no, by changing completely its operation model in the Free Zone. In 2005 started his first entrepreneurial journey by quitting his job and joining two friends to start a Freight Forwarding company. After 8 months was recruited back by his company LSP with the General Manager role with the challenge of growing the company and make it fully capable warehousing 3PL. By 2009 joined CSCMP and WERC and started his journey of learning and growing his international network and high-level learning. In 2012 for the first time joined a local association ( the Panama Maritime Chamber) and worked in the country’s first Logistics Strategy plan, joined and lead other associations ending as president of the Panama Logistics Council in 2017. By finishing his professional mission at LSP with a company that was 8 times the size it was when accepted the role as GM with so many jobs generated and several young professionals coached, having great financial results, took the decision to move forward and start his own business from scratch by the end of 2019. with a friend and colleague co-founded IPL Group a company that started as a boutique 3PL and now is gearing up for the post-Covid era by moving to the big leagues.

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Kim Winter

Host, Supply Chain Now

The founder of Logistics Executive Group, Kim Winter delivers 40 years of executive leadership experience spanning Executive Search & Recruitment, Leadership Development, Executive Coaching, Corporate Advisory, Motivational Speaking, Trade Facilitation and across the Supply Chain, Logistics, 3PL, E-commerce, Life Science, Cold Chain, FMCG, Retail, Maritime, Defence, Aviation, Resources, and Industrial sectors. Operating from the company’s global offices, he is a regular contributor of thought leadership to industry and media, is a professional Master of Ceremonies, and is frequently invited to chair international events.

He is a Board member of over a dozen companies throughout APAC, India, and the Middle East, a New Zealand citizen, he holds formal resident status in Australia and the UAE, and is the Australia & New Zealand representative for the UAE Government-owned Jebel Ali Free Zone (JAFZA), the Middle East’s largest Economic Free Zone.

A triathlete and ex-professional rugby player, Kim is a qualified (IECL Sydney) executive coach and the Founder / Chairman of the successful not for profit humanitarian organization, Oasis Africa (www. oasisafrica.org.au), which has provided freedom from poverty through education to over 8000 mainly orphaned children in East Africa’s slums. Kim holds an MBA and BA from Massey & Victoria Universities (NZ).

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Nick Roemer

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Nick Roemer has had a very diverse and extensive career within design and sales over the last 15 years stretching from China, Dubai, Germany, Holland, UK, and the USA. In the last 5 years, Nick has developed a hawk's eye for sustainable tech and the human-centric marketing and sales procedures that come with it. With his far-reaching and strong network within the logistics industry, Nick has been able to open new avenues and routes to market within major industries in the USA and the UAE. Nick lives by the ethos, “Give more than you take." His professional mission is to make the logistics industry leaner, cleaner and greener.

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Alex Bramley

Sales Support Intern

Alex is pursuing a Marketing degree and a Certificate in Legal Studies at the University of Georgia. As a dual citizen of both the US and UK; Alex has studied abroad at University College London and is passionate about travel and international business. Through her coursework at the Terry College of Business, Alex has gained valuable skills in digital marketing, analytics, and professional selling. She joined Supply Chain Now as a Sales Support Intern where she assists the team by prospecting and qualifying new business partners.

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