Veteran Voices
Episode 12

Episode Summary

“I just love the fact that there’s a lot of correlations in the special operations community to entrepreneurship.  As in an entrepreneurial mentality, you have to think multiple steps ahead of maybe where you are going towards your desired outcome and how to get there using the tools that you currently have available. I’ve only kind of had the bug, the entrepreneurial bug, but that’s where it really began to take it off .”

-Grady Brain, Implementation Manager at Equifax and 82nd Airborn Division Veteran

In this episode of the newly re-launched Veteran Voices series, Scott welcomes Grady Brain to the Veteran Voices podcast.

Episode Transcript

Scott Luton (00:05):

Welcome to veteran voices, a podcast dedicated to giving a voice to those that have served in our country’s armed forces on this series, which is part of the supply chain. Now family of programming, we sit down with a wide variety of veterans and veteran advocates to gain their insights, perspective, and experiences. We’ll talk with many individuals about their challenging transition from active duty to the private sector, and we’ll discuss some of the most vital issues facing veterans today. Join us for this episode of veteran voices. All right. Hey, good afternoon, Scott Luton with veteran voices. Great to have you on today’s episode. So on today’s show, we have the opportunity to talk with a veteran that not only has made a very sexy, a successful transition to the private sector, but he’s also made a big splash from an entrepreneurial standpoint. So stay tuned as we learn a lot more, uh, quick programming before we get started here.

Scott Luton (01:10):

This program is part of the supply chain. Now family programming, um, fond since and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts from, all you gotta do is search for veteran voices and it’ll pop up and you can subscribe. So you don’t miss a single thing. Alright, so with no further ado, I want to welcome in our featured distinguished guest here today. I’m really excited about this Grady brain banking and lending technology implementation manager with Equifax, but equally as exciting he’s founder and partner at J dog Athens, which we learned more about. So great. A good afternoon. How you doing Scott? I’m doing well. I really appreciate you having me. It’s a, I think this be a lot of fun. I do too, you know, um, we, I enjoy collaborating with you earlier, really over the past couple of years, uh, as we’re going in and talking supply chain with elementary students, and you’ve got such a, a knack with kids and instructing and, and kinda, uh, coaching.

Scott Luton (02:07):

So it was neat to see that side of you. And now we’re going to learn a lot more about the, your military background and then of course, all of your business exploits, which we’re really all excited about. I’m looking forward to it. Uh, definitely, uh, here to have a good time. So, uh, let’s do it. Alright. Alright. So let’s get to know you a little bit personally first. So tell us, you know, Grady, uh, where did you grow up and give us, you know, give us a story or two about your upbringing.

Grady Brain (02:33):

I grew up not too far, uh, up the road here in Jackson County, just North of Athens. Um, that area has always been kind of my stomping grounds, so to speak from, you know, the teenage years to the early twenties and, uh, pretty much left Athens to join the military. And, um, did the military thing for a while, as you had mentioned, six years active duty in the 82nd airborne division and, um, six years in the national guard, uh, the 20th special forces group as a direct enabler for the

Grady Brain (03:00):

ODH the team guys, the green Berets. And so through those travels, um, really just able, was able to see, um, you know, it’s kind of, it sounds like a cliche, but it really is true. You, you get to see a part of the world that maybe you just didn’t think of. And, and I think that is especially true for, uh, my friends back home, you know, they, um, nothing wrong with that, but they certainly decided to stay home and stay in their little area and, and, uh, certainly have had their successes on their own, but it was neat to be, um, a part of maybe making history, you know, uh, the, the, the overseas campaigns I rack up Kenneth Stan, uh, once a contractor, um, in, uh, in Nigeria for the department of state, um, contractor for the intelligence community, um, for a little more than three and a half years in various parts of the middle East for, um, some pretty incredible opportunities and programs. Alright,

Scott Luton (03:48):

I got to dive into this stuff, man, you you’re sharing. I mean, this is, this is, this is exactly what I was looking forward to this. So for starters, let’s back up because I want to go through your, uh, your military roles in just a second. So we can really kind of unpack that a little bit more, but let’s start. What made you join the military? So you grew up in the, in the Athens area, um, the greater Athens area, you said Jackson County, but what made you join the military?

Grady Brain (04:14):

Let’s see. So I joined, alright. Let’s, let’s do some dates here. I joined a about April, 2003. And before that, um, you know, you had the, uh, Iraq and Afghanistan initial kickoff campaign. Now my cousin, um, uh, she married a, an army guy, um, adjusting. And so he was welcome to the family and open arms. And I think he did a campaign in Haiti if I remember correctly and just booked up to Justin and he was a great guy from Oregon. So he really the Backwoods, if you go the Oregon really kind of, um, uh, meshed well with a family. And so when the Iraq and Afghanistan campaign kicked off, it was kind of, um, a drive, maybe a little bit of patriotism there. Like, I didn’t want him to be the only person in the family to put the name on the dotted line. Again, it sounds like a cliche, but it really is who I am. Like I wanted to raise my hand. So is young enough, uh, was at a point in my time that wasn’t married at that moment of time and said, it’s time to do something. So that was really my main motivator and driver to join was to go off and do my little part.

Scott Luton (05:12):

Sounds like you’ve got a strong bias for action, which I’m sure as we talk more later in the interview about your entrepreneurial venture, you got to have it right.

Grady Brain (05:20):

Just a little bit, but not enough, just a little bit.

Scott Luton (05:24):

So admire that. So you joined the army in April, 2003, right. So you spent six years on active duty all with the 82nd airborne, is that right?

Grady Brain (05:35):

That’s right. Yep. Um, it was a, I was kind of fortunate to spend, uh, my active duty years in 80 seconds in this, uh,

Scott Luton (05:41):

And as we both know a legendary unit. Um, so before we talk about your role there for the six years, what, what is it about the 82nd airborne that, um, that just makes it the big, bad, uh, but kick in unit that that’s got, um, such a legendary, uh, reputation. So what, what is it what’s, what’s, what’s the mystique there?

Grady Brain (06:06):

Yeah. Um, so you know, it, um, the 82nd airborne division, and so the patch, um, the unit patches, the AA, all American, and from a historical perspective, it literally was a conglomeration of all Americans from all over the country. Right. And so forgive me, uh, hopefully, uh, brother and 82nd numbers, aren’t going to roast me for this. I don’t know the exact founding time of, of, of the 82nd, but the point, the reason I even mentioned that is to say back, if I remember correctly, it was kind of a contentious point of time in America, right. So, um, you know, when they started bringing together people from all backgrounds, socioeconomic groups, um, to represent the true essence of what America was, it was kind of a, a pillar or a foundational point at that moment of time and certainly has been continuing on into the modern times.

Grady Brain (06:51):

So, um, you know, you couple that, with the idea that, um, there’s a little bit of cockiness, right? Uh, the AR six 70 dash one is the Army’s manual for how to wear the uniform. Um, even the 82nd guys that can conventional army, um, would have a little bit of attitude in terms of how they represented their race. So you can always tell a paratrooper, particularly from the 82nd is just by the end spoken of how they wore their uniform of their brain. All that being said that, um, where they’re, America’s quick reactionary force, um, we, uh, were able to, to basically, um, respond, uh, depending on the, uh, the DRF, um, level that we were on at the time for somewhere as little up leave at 16 hours. I think I have that correct. So the fact that we could answer Americans calling anywhere in the world, uh, from the conventional forces at a battalion or even brigade level really made the 82nd, uh, in a Bible asset for the department of defense and the army.

Scott Luton (07:43):

Absolutely. And I love I’m going to dive more, um, in the weeks ahead into the, I’ve never thought about the history, the history from a, um, um, an integration standpoint. I think that that’s probably a fascinating chapter, but the other thing that your mom me have, and, you know, I’m, I’m a little bit of a supply chain nerd, but to be able to re react anywhere in the world, I think you said 16 hours.

Grady Brain (08:03):

I think it is, yes. Now Will’s up 16 hours.

Scott Luton (08:06):

I can’t imagine the, the readiness, the logistics, the supply chain behind the 82nd airborne, especially after you land and in the days to come as you reinforce position and, and, and, and more of the supply chains brought to bear. So we’ll save that for another episode. Um, all right. So within, uh, the first six years you started 12 for six active second six, I think you said with the guard, right. National guard.

Grady Brain (08:30):

That’s right. Yup. 20th special forces group in Alabama.

Scott Luton (08:34):

So with the 82nd airborne, uh, what was your official MOS?

Grady Brain (08:39):

Don’t know if I told you this, but I was a food service guy, so I was a cook. Yes. Yep. Uh, so I spent six years and that’s actually the reason I love the 82nd was because, um, you know, no matter your, your background. And so the Marines kind of have their infantry men first, you know, that’s their mentality, right. That, no, your job, um, any second kind of a, had that same mentality in sense of, um, you were, you had to, and you had to have from a technical perspective, you had to have the ability to understand, and to be able to, um, especially attached to an infantry battalion, which is, which is what I was, um, you ready for really anything. So, um, it was, it was a really cool opportunity.

Scott Luton (09:18):

Alright. So you cut out just a smidge there and Hey, it’s no big deal. I bet you’re getting, uh, you’re getting some business,

Grady Brain (09:26):

Right. I’ll drive to that. Yes. Sorry.

Scott Luton (09:29):

I’ll get all right. But really that, belabors the point even more because when, when, you know, you send, um, the 82nd airborne into theater, it’s got a role with, with food and supplies and, and transportation and everything you need. So, um, you know, that’s, that was a, that’s a vital part, right? Uh, what’s the Napoleon, um, this is a famous Napoleon quote. I can’t remember it, but basically, uh, you gotta keep your army fed and, and, and, you know, uh, you don’t get too far on empty stomachs and I’m butchering the quote, but anyway. Alright. So let’s talk about, um, let’s go ahead and talk about your, your second six years, and then I’m going to circle back around with a couple of questions kind of about your entire career in the army. So, uh, the first, first six active 82nd airborne, next six. Tell us about, uh, you, you mentioned Nigeria, you mentioned some, um, uh, some, some other roles. Tell us more about those second six years.

Grady Brain (10:32):

Yep. So you’re correct. The second six years was with 20th special forces group. So the U S army has, um, um, it seems like it’s around. Um, what was it, five special forces? Um, um, I guess groups, if you will, and then there’s two national guards, uh, special forces group. So the 19th group, the 20th group. And so 20th group is headquartered in Birmingham, Alabama. Um, and so I, um, was able to, uh, find a fantastic opportunity. First came in as a food service guy and squad leader, uh, and, uh, uh, then went into more of a intelligence supporting role for the ODS from a, um, a, um, tactical battlefield questioning, uh, SSC sensitive site, exploitation opportunities. So really enjoyed that, uh, second half of my career. And just again, to, from the coast schooling point of view, and just really, as you’ve said, a few moments ago, understanding kind of the logistics chain associated with the various positions and responsibilities. And sometimes you’re thinking outside of the role, uh, introduced me to so many opportunities that you’ve maybe wouldn’t find in the conventional army Scott. I loved every minute of it. That was really my, uh, Michael in there.

Scott Luton (11:37):

Can you point to one thing that was so gratifying about that role

Grady Brain (11:42):

Scott, without a doubt, it is you get a disproportionate, uh, significant, um, plethora of opportunity to make a gigantic, um, impact you’re giving, um, a if you will, the, the, the responsibility and the choices you have to make with maybe limited information has a multiplying effect in terms of the outcome. Uh, I just love the fact that they from, again, there’s a lot of correlations in the special operations community to entrepreneurial as an entrepreneurial mentality was that you got to think multiple steps ahead of maybe where you are towards your desired outcome and how to get there using the tools that you currently have available. And that’s just really, I’ve only kind of had the bug, the entrepreneurial bug, but that’s where it really began to take it off

Scott Luton (12:30):

Of how that you make that connection. Um, but I haven’t really thought, you know, having to improvise, which is one of the things I’m hearing, a lot of what you speak to getting creative about solving problems based on what you, what you’re facing. Wow. Once you solve those problems, the ability to make a huge impact. I mean, there’s a lot of parallels there. Um, alright, so let’s, so looking back at this 12 years, but it’s active and, uh, in, in the guard, you know, what’s one or two accomplishments that you look that come to mind that, that, you know, you’re most proud of, you might have shared with your family, you know, what, what are those couple of things that really come to mind?

Grady Brain (13:10):

So I think it would probably have to be, um, uh, again, so, uh, in, um, total experience as a, as a, in the department of defense, uh, wearing the uniform as a contractor ever 12 year period, I had about, um, uh, 75 months away from the family. And it was just, it was gratifying to know that each trip that I came back and I was very thankful, um, that, um, I was able to, you know, make an impact in my mind, you know, the, the operations were be able to be a part of. Um, so I don’t know if it was one particular moment, as much as this just massively, um, I guess, gratifying knowing that I was able to come back and the positive we did and through some of the scrimishes and the fights and, and what have you, uh, even through all that, I’m just totally thankful, Scott, you know, that you’ll be a part of shaping history, and I’m sure it’ll be written about, um, you know, 40, 50, 60, a hundred years from now, whatever. Um, so I don’t know that again, there’s any one moment, but, um, um, with that grit, you know, the gratitude certainly comes the, um, the respect of people who’ve paid the ultimate price of us as sisters that we knew of. So, um, but yeah, it’s, um, I guess that would be an initial.

Scott Luton (14:16):

All right. So let’s talk more about, um, some of the folks that you served with when you think back, and, and I bet there was no, if your, if your career and, and yours is a lot longer than mine, you know, there’s no shortage of folks that I miss that, that they’re with us. And a couple of folks that aren’t with this, that I, that I miss dearly rubbing on buds with day in and day out, that just had a huge impact, not just on my career, but in general, as, as a, as you know, a young man growing up. So what are some folks tell us about some folks that you served with either side by, or maybe some leaders that you, that you serve for that really stick out and you miss here today?

Grady Brain (14:57):

I just, I, I guess, uh, one guy in particular, uh, he’s, he’s still with us, um, had a gigantic impact on my career. Uh, his name is Zeke Vanderpool. Um, we call them secrets on a real first name. Uh, he was my team Sergeant when I was for the 20th special forces group, um, Zeke was able to, he was the guy that I really looked up to in the sense of, um, he was, he knew when to be stern. He knew when to give you that rope. And he knew when to let you take that rope. And then, you know, you’d be come up from under you because you took that rope too far. And that was the, in my opinion, they put them, you have a leader. Like he was the guy that knew that, okay, this was a good comp of Grady to learn, you know, the collateral damage or the collateral kind of, um, fallout, so to speak.

Grady Brain (15:37):

It’s not going to be able to significant enough to where he can pick up the pieces enough to where he can sit there and look around and realize that, Oh, maybe I took this too far, or this is what I can learn from it, or what have you, uh, I’m that guy that has to kind of, um, understand what the parameters are, the left, the right limits, and maybe bounce, bounce off them to know that this is how I move forward and Zeke was that guy. And, um, I still, his, his, um, his passion today is helping, um, uh, really read, uh, the veterans suicide and the stigma associated with reaching out to the mental health professionals, um, to, um, you know, to, to say guys and gals, it’s okay to reach out. So yeah, Zeke Zeke is that guy that I certainly still look up to to this days. And he’s an awesome guy, Zeke Vanderpool, is that right? Yes. Yes. Vendor pool, great guy out of the Tennessee area. Just drop everything in my life right now. If he called and go up there and help him out

Scott Luton (16:29):

Outstanding. Who else comes to mind? Uh, Grady,

Grady Brain (16:33):

You know, another guy, um, that, uh, was impacted significantly by, by the, or, um, uh, out of respect for his position in the special operations community. I’ll just use his first name. Uh, James, uh, James is, um, uh, a dear brother. Um, he was one of those guys that, um, was, was kind of the same way. He, uh, volunteered multiple times, um, for deployments. Um, and I’m just that guy that as a, as a medic, as an 18 Delta, um, knew so many things. He was a, I think it was a battalion chief. If I remember correctly, uh, volunteered for the national guard. I think at the late thirties, early forties went through the Q course and the special ed or the special forces, the Greenbrae pipeline. And, um, he, uh, you know, he obviously made it and earned a screenplay, uh, but he never let kind of his position with the, uh, with the ODS, the teams.

Grady Brain (17:25):

Um, he never, he never let it, um, kind of drive who it was. And so he, when he realized that there was lives like myself, that was not afraid to go out there and work and push and, and earn their kind of spot in the support role, um, you know, he began to really welcome you in. And so James did that for me. And he, um, was in Afghanistan, uh, you know, several years ago, um, worked in, uh, some, some very, um, sensitive locations and emissions stepped on a pressure plate and it took, it took us, it was this right leg. And so I went to Walter Reed to visit him. And, um, you know, that was a foundationally shaping and, and like structurally takes your morals and ethics and shakes them to the court to make you rethink what is important. And so seeing James up there and our other federal brothers and sisters of uniform and the uniform, and now veterans and go through the trials and tribulations was just eyeopening. So James is definitely another one of those guys that they’re really from a leader and then friendship,

Scott Luton (18:23):

When you met with James and I’m assuming he is, uh, he is finished his service, and then you don’t have to share, but w w was there a singular message that you want to share with him based on, you know, the impact he had on him

Grady Brain (18:36):

Style, gosh, uh, that, uh, that, that I want to, I’ll still to this day to the end of my life, one of my last breath, last breath, uh, always be there for him. Um, and, and without a doubt, he’s the, I think he feels the same way. Um, you know, he’s, he’s, he’s had a huge impact on my, um, honestly, where I think success is his mentality of just not never quitting, even when he was in Walter Reed, just a few months post, you know, post blast, so to speak. He, um, he didn’t have that defeated mentality. He didn’t have that mentality of what the heck am I going to do now? It was like, I’m not the whole person I am anymore. It was, well, these are the cards I’m dealt, and this is how I move forward. So yeah, he still is. And he just, he doesn’t quit. And so I think that’s part of the special operations and really that’s as an American, that’s kind of the cloth he’s cut from. And just knowing that, that letting James know that I’m always there. And I think without a doubt, he would probably feel the same way. And so that’s the strong brotherhood that, that you just, it’s pretty rare to get these days. And so I’m thankful for it.

Scott Luton (19:37):

We’re going to talk about your transition in a minute, cause I love the pick your brain there and get you to share some of your experiences. Uh, but you mentioned a real serious, um, issue. That’s, that’s unfortunately an issue for far too long, and we’re still trying to get up, get, wrap our head around and figure out why and do something about it. And that’s of course, a veteran suicide. And, and for that matter, uh, it’s, it’s permeated into the act of ranks, which I know you’re not, probably both have had our finger on the pulse about, I don’t want to put you on the spot, but what’s why do you, I mean, so let me I’ll share, maybe, maybe it’ll help me ask this question. Uh, you know, a lot of what I’ve experienced and what I’ve seen is, especially in Scott A. Little bit better, but as veterans have been underemployed and, and, and, and not nearly as gainfully employed, that that really, um, did not help with the transition.

Scott Luton (20:29):

And certainly didn’t help to feel like, like what you described earlier in your career where you’re, you’re making such an impact. And, and, um, you’re, you’re, you’re, uh, sharing all of your, your knowledge and your skill sets and, you know, and when you’re not being utilized, especially to, to the tune or to the degree that you are in, in active duty in your leadership role, you know, it can create a depression. And, you know, I think that’s one of the things I’ve observed, especially as I’ve seen a lot of, of my fellow veterans really struggle with their transition and, and it persists. And so while we’ve made, we’ve made some strides from, uh, con more and more companies get it. And they’ve, they’ve seemingly gotten better at their outreach and recruiting and hiring and, and good, um, gainfully employed roles. That’s just part of the equation. What do you think that, that we’re missing out there that is preventing us from really effectively addressing this, this sad problem?

Grady Brain (21:38):

I’m probably in the same boat as you, that I’m at read some, some, some data, um, trying to read a bit of literature, but by no means, do I pretend to have a conclusive understanding of the problem, but I, I think that fundamentally it’s the idea of, of belonging, right? Um, I think that you find commonality of, um, maybe transition or difficulty of transition from groups that require a strong bond, whether it’s, you know, in the, in the ranks of, uh, the law enforcement community or firefighters, or really, um, um, other public sector roles to where you have to be a cohesive unit, no matter your background, no matter your, your differences to accomplish a mission. Right. And I think that when you begin to not necessarily know, and, and, and being made to be prepared for your transition, you don’t maybe think that, okay, that’s not going to be there when I transition.

Grady Brain (22:27):

So it’s, maybe it’s a little bit of the re gearing initially to say that when I transitioned, yes, my brothers and sisters will always be there. Um, but maybe the civilian world a little different. So maybe it’s the, the first step is understanding that there’s a little bit of a retooling there, an expectation, but also, I think you touched on it. It’s the, it’s the, it’s the labor perspective? Um, how do you translate, um, being a bit tongue in cheek from the next next part, um, as an 11 Bravo and impeachment that you go out and, um, you know, face the enemy, right. So how do you put that on a resume? And so it’s, it’s really working with the nonprofits out there and there’s been some great national organizations, um, you know, um, uh, Equifacts, we’re trying to, uh, uh, stand up a Equifax business resource group there for veterans.

Grady Brain (23:13):

So it’s, it’s really just plugging into holistically across the board nonprofits, uh, organizations that are trying to understand, you know, the veteran unemployment aspect of it, to say that if you see an infantry man or woman that says, uh, okay, this is what I’ve done. And this is what my experiences are that, um, maybe you can kind of help them as a, as a hiring manager say, okay, well, if they’re trying to say this, what are they trying to say? Are they, are they really getting the message across? Right? And so that I think the hiring managers, and that may be a bit of a going out on a, the land here can certainly work other nonprofits as well, to make sure that if they’re speaking a language, maybe there’s a little more commonality there than what they thought initially. So from the hiring point of view, there’s maybe a little bit of a work that we need to do there.

Grady Brain (23:56):

And really, I guess maybe a third piece is the veteran to just to know that things are going to be different. Right. Um, and that’s okay. Different is great. They were different when we left civilian world and joined the military, they were different than maybe what our friends have seen and we’re fans, we’re living while we were in the military and they’re going to be different after we leave the military posting of one. So maybe just a few thoughts there that I think I’ve seen and maybe experienced myself that, that, um, that have, uh, uh, been identified and, you know, I try to relate to him

Scott Luton (24:22):

Well, put, and going back to what you shared, uh, that, uh, Zeke was, um, was working on, which is, you know, it sounds like, uh, is really, uh, encouraging veterans embrace the fact that things may not be okay and it’s okay to share that so you can get the help and assistance and the mentoring or whatever it is, um, that you need so that, you know, hopefully you don’t choose some of the choices that are being made. So kudos. And I, I really appreciate you taking the time to kind of walk through those three things, um, and sharing that with folks that may either be new, or maybe they just did, like so many folks, they don’t know what’s taking place. So your perspective is very helpful, a big kudos to Zeke for, you know, doing something about it, uh, in his, uh, post army career. All right. So let’s talk about transition. We both already have touched on that. I’d love to know more, you know, tell, tell me about, so, so now you’re, you’re with Equifax. Well-known everybody knows Equifax. You’ve got a great role there. I’d love to learn more about that, but let’s talk about your transition. Tell us, tell us a little bit of that story.

Grady Brain (25:31):

So, um, left, uh, the MasterCard, um, and right before I left the national guard, I realized, um, you know, it’s time to go back to, uh, the formal education route and, and really finish up the education. So, um, and, and maybe that’s another interesting part just because you’ve tried extra, it took me three times to get my, um, my bachelor’s. And so when I finally did, um, I didn’t, I didn’t let off the accelerator. Um, so I got my undergrad, um, bachelor’s of science from Norwich university. It’s the oldest preeminent military college in the country

Scott Luton (26:00):

While you were in national guard. Okay.

Grady Brain (26:03):

Gotcha. And so, um, it took about a two to three month break and did my first master’s program and masters of arts diplomacy and national trade and commerce from Norwich, and then rolled up. Um, literally I was graduating from my master’s of arts at Norwich and got my acceptance call into my MBA program. So, uh, literally no break in between, uh, did my, um, my, um, uh, executive MBA at Cornell really enjoyed that opportunity. Well, you know, it’s, uh, not too bad from a, from a country guy here in, uh, in, uh, just North of Athens. So nice. Uh, I, I enjoyed a tremendous opportunity and that’s one thing is a bit of a, an aside here that I think the veterans, um, particularly the enlisted, but certainly the, the officer ranks as well, the IVs are, are really want to talk to the veteran community.

Grady Brain (26:50):

People have gotten this mentality, and I understand that the IVs, there’s no way that I could be competitive in the IB ranks. You know, it’s, it’s the Chrome Della crime of, of, of, um, you know, the, the personnel and the people who are trying to get in. And I guess there’s probably a lot of truth at that, but the reality is, um, the IVs and maybe really all, um, public education groups, public, or private really want to talk to the veteran community. Right. Um, there’s great opportunities to the VA, um, for the post nine 11 GI bill. Um, and so I guess I went off on a bit of a rip there, but, you know, from that, from that perspective, brethren should really veterans should really be looking for those because, um, there’s opportunities for formal education because they’re there in the end. People want to help. So, um, yeah, I’m sorry. I think I went off on an exit ramp there

Scott Luton (27:37):

You did. And, uh, so the first thing you established is, uh, is, uh, how you were able to earn and build this educational pedigree, especially, I mean, undergrad masters, and then the executive MBA at an Ivy league institution. So that’s, you, you obviously felt that was a really important component of your transition, correct?

Grady Brain (27:58):

It was. And so, um, I finished the, um, the, um, the executive MBA and, um, was working for Google at the time. Um, the Atlanta office really enjoyed that opportunity. And then, um,

Scott Luton (28:10):

Hang on, let me ask you about that. Cause how did you was Google your first official job post military service?

Grady Brain (28:19):

You could say that, I think that’s probably a fair assessment. I was a contractor, as I’d mentioned a bit ago and the intelligence community in, in, uh, in Nigeria for the department of state. So while that was private sector, my first regular job, I guess, would probably be the Google role.

Scott Luton (28:32):

Okay. Kind of untied untethered to your, your military credentials was a Google. Okay. All right. Well we’ll um, okay. We’re gonna circle back to your, your contractor roles. Um, alright, so Google, how did you make that connection? Uh, cause I think all of that was can benefit from, from how you found your way into working for a company it’s on the tip of everybody’s tongue

Grady Brain (28:55):

Scott, just, I guess a little bit of, um, um, stubbornness just never gave up, you know, I mean, and I know that again, it sounds like a cliche, but, um, um, I’ve always been that guy that is up for a challenge, um, a little bit of the underdog growing up and I just never, never gave up mom and dad always told me that, um, you know, again, it sounds like a cliche, you can do what you want, but the reality is it’s absolutely true. And I think I’m kind of living that now. So just, um, just networking, I networked with the veteran groups. Um, I use LinkedIn, I went to LinkedIn and found those, uh, those hiring managers. And oftentimes, sometimes they wouldn’t write back. Um, sometimes they would write back and say that, uh, I’ll keep your resume. And sometimes they would write back and engage. I try to look for other veterans who are maybe in that role hiring manager and just kind of pick their brain. And sometimes they were busy. Sometimes they weren’t, sometimes they said, let me let you talk to my friend X, Y, Z. And so introduction was made and just over time I kept that role and I kept that approach and, and found the role eventually a Google.

Scott Luton (29:52):

I think one of the challenges is a lot of, a lot of veterans, at least, that I’ve experienced and heard about is that as they leave the military service, you know, many of them don’t have a business network. They may not even have a LinkedIn account, you know, much less, you know, thousands of connections. Um, and in some cases I’ve heard where, um, even in the last year of service, when folks that are retiring, their commanding officer has not allowed them to get out and network and, and, you know, spend some of their time with the industry associations or whatever it is. Um, how, um, can you talk to speak to how important it is when you don’t have that network, uh, already, whether digital or just the Rolodex, um, you know, how important is networking in that? Um, you know, when you, when, when you, when you’ve got that gap, how important is networking speak to that a bit? So

Grady Brain (30:42):

I was that guy. I didn’t have the network, a little bit of foolishness on my behalf, and I think that the department of army and really department of defense when I transitioned from active duty in Oh nine was beginning to understand that, okay, we need to give guys and gals time to transition and more particular. Um, we need to help them understand what the transition is. So I really didn’t have a network. I didn’t have a defined group. And so, um, I went to LinkedIn, uh, made a thousand mistakes and, and just kept going a thousand at one time since. So that really honestly stubbornness, you know, is as my, uh, my key there. And so I worked to plug into some local, um, you know, veteran organizations in the Atlanta area of Atlanta bunker labs, uh, four block and just do sheer tenacity and focus.

Grady Brain (31:28):

The networking was able to find, um, find the groups and find people that said, you need to talk to this person. And so that person introduced me to here and I saw this person three networking events later. They introduced me to this person, this person said, I really need you to talk to the vice president of this company. This person had a veteran friend or family, and literally the network grew from there. So that would be one thing that I would absolutely unequivocally say that the veteran community must go further than they think from the networking perspective of what they think is good enough. And it just never hurts to have that positive representation of Lincoln, you know, understand your, your, your 10, what is it, ten second elevator pitch. Um, because like once you, once the veteran or anybody begins to figure out, know that where their place is and that they’re rocking along with they’re busy, um, they certainly probably want to help other people themselves as well, but they’re probably going to be busy.

Grady Brain (32:20):

So the person that’s approaching them is probably going to need to make sure that they’re on point. So it’s kind of that, um, you know, put yourself in their shoes to understand maybe why folks are looking for that quick, uh, you know, that why that, that 10, second elevator pitch is important. And, uh, when, when you really begin to kind of think of that direction, you begin to contextualize and know that, okay, these are the steps that need to be taken. So that network is gigantically important, best thing. And probably the only thing that I could recommend that they must do going forward

Scott Luton (32:47):

Well, and follow up what I’m hearing you talk about. And, and of course, I’ve known you before tonight in our interview here. And I got, I’ve got a, um, one of the things I’ve observed is that, you know, you, you follow up, uh, and, and when you’re getting, um, all these connections and, and, and these offers of connections and, uh, these, these, these opportunities, maybe they’re vetted, and maybe they’re not vetted. Uh, what I’m hearing you say is you’re, you’re, you’re going to take that shot and it may not go anywhere. You may not hear back, but, you know, you’re gonna, you’re gonna take all of these, um, uh, uh, these openings and you’re gonna put an iron in the fire, uh, and that’s a ton of work, but that’s sounds like it’s critical to your, your transition.

Grady Brain (33:34):

I think that’s right. It is a ton of work, right. Um, you know, most days, and I kind of heard this before, again, oftentimes I say this once, and I’ll say it a thousand times a night, it sounds like a cliche, but the reality is, is it works the whole adage of, you know, start early in the morning and finish late at night. That’s literally, my day I’ll start, you know, wake up early. Well, to me, it’s early at six, seven o’clock in the morning and go to, you know, 1130, 12, 12, 30 at night. And so I’m one of those guys that really has to get my at least six hours of sleep to function well. So yeah, I mean, it’s just a grind to get down that, uh, pushing it forward and, and, um, you know, but I’m respectable, obviously there’s that fine line, right. Being respectful. Um, but, uh, I’ll follow up with them. I’ll make sure that they understand that, um, I’m respectful of their time. And I think once again, like I was talking a bit ago when people realize that you’re going to be respectful of the ass, that you’re going to make this, you’re just not going to sit there and say, ah, well, you know, this isn’t for me, it’s, you’ve done your homework to at least know what you’re getting into. People are willing to help you.

Scott Luton (34:31):

All right. So last question about your transition, and then we’ll talk about what you’re up to now. Um, did you, was your transition, uh, easier or harder than you had anticipated? Um, you know, let’s say a year or so out

Grady Brain (34:45):

Thousand percent harder. I mean, I, when I transitioned off active duty, I didn’t, I had a, maybe a couple of years of formal education from, uh, from, um, undergrad about us as a state university there in Valdosta, Georgia, and, um, and made the determination at that point in time. I don’t need formal education to get where I want to get. And there’s people that have just been massively successful in whatever frame or context of that word that means to that person. Um, but I also realized that it was now a challenge, you know, as family, uh, I had my first daughter at that moment of time, my wife and I, um, and I began to realize that, you know what, um, there’s more things that I want to show my family, you know, uh, particularly my children, right? So they’re dead persevered, they’re dead pushed through, got their undergrad and a little bit of education along the way, uh, through thick and thin. Um, you know, I started the business that we were just talking about, uh, Jade electric removal in Holland of Athens, uh, you know, and, uh, plugged into a few more startups in the area and Atlanta area. So a lot of pokers in the fire, but you’re out, you’ve got to have that tenacity and I think that’s been the kind of pale for them.

Scott Luton (35:49):

So now let’s talk about Equifax and what you do there in your proverbial nine to five, that that’s cliche is dead or than a door. Now, these days, it seems. And then I to talk about what I’m really excited about as a fellow entrepreneur, what you’re doing with J dog Athens. So first off with Equifax and goodness gracious of banking and lending technology implementation manager, that is like five levels above my pay grade. I can’t imagine what you, what you need to know to implement, you know, tech projects. So tell us more about what, what you do in that role.

Grady Brain (36:25):

So, um, you know, uh, the, uh, the incident, uh, the breach that happened in 2017 and certainly, um, um, not lost on people who have been impacted, right. It was like 145, I think, plus million individuals. Um, since then we’ve got a fantastic leadership team from literally the top down, uh, Mark to go, or the new CEO of Bryson Kaler as chief technology officer. Um, is he on Nelson, the SVP of, uh, banking and lending and enablement, uh, Chris Kramer, uh, all of these individuals, um, have been re uh, either new in the rules or just massively down and dedicated to, uh, riding the ship, so to speak. And so it’s been a phenomenal, um, change the tapping and to be a part of that change has been interesting, right? It’s been a very rewarding experience, tons and tons of work. Um, you know, um, the, the transformation to the, to the cloud is, has been the biggest push.

Grady Brain (37:17):

Um, and it’s been really interesting, rewarding to be a part of that change. And so, um, letting our customers know that fundamentally, you know, it’s customer first, it’s ensuring that, um, we’ve, uh, re re re righted the ship, so to speak, and I’m short up the, um, um, uh, the structure and then you continue selling and moving forward for our clients that currently count on us and really the, the, the, the consumers. So, um, you know, it it’s been, uh, been interesting as far as what I’d necessarily do. It’s, um, uh, we have our banking and Linden customers, so anybody that does banking, um, we, they come in and, uh, look for the various products, um, from risk decisioning to, um, really understanding their customers better, um, and, uh, how to better offer a better product to the customer. Right. So, uh, it’s been, it’s been a rewarding experience there, and, and I’m never the same thing every single day.

Scott Luton (38:08):

That is, um, that’s the complete comp well, you know, there’s so much technology being implemented across big global business these days, you know, certainly in supply chain, which is, is my background. And those projects certainly are not, um, easy, or most of them are complicated. And, and there’s, there’s plenty of, uh, cyber concerns and, and, and some rules and regulations, including some that, that, that are right around the, but in that industry and in the banking and lending and the financial industry, I can only imagine, um, you know, how long the checklist has gotta be and all of the rules and regulations, uh, given the nature of the sector. So, uh, good stuff there. Alright, so now let’s talk about my favorite part and, uh, let’s let’s so J dog, Athens, give me the full name again, that folks will recognize.

Grady Brain (39:00):

Yeah. So J dog junk removal and hauling, um, is, uh, is the franchise system we brought into, we bought the Athens area.

Scott Luton (39:07):

All right. So Athens, Georgia home and the Bulldogs, uh, and home of surprisingly, uh, the business community and, and even the industrial community in the greater Athens area might surprise a lot of folks. Um, alright. So how, uh, so it sounds like from earlier in your story, you got kind of the entrepreneurial bug while you’re still in service. So how did you come across this one and what said, you know what, this is the one,

Grady Brain (39:34):

Gosh. So, uh, when I was in the intelligence community, um, I really enjoyed my opportunity there. So this was in, uh, I think I joined in, in, uh, uh, August of 2012, um, and, um, really enjoy the opportunity there. It was a, it was a global travel. Um, but every time I left, I was leaving my wife and we had our fourth kid, uh, at the time. And it just, we came to get harder and harder, Scott. It, it, um, you know, that, uh, the, the kind of running joke was, um, at the dragon she’ll bite you. And then she bites you one too many times, then you’re done, right? Because you truly exotic travel, you get to do some amazing things. Um, but I was looking for my exit. And so I first found J dog brands around late 2015, if I remember correctly.

Grady Brain (40:17):

And I followed him for three years, um, Jerry and Tracey Flanagan were the proprietors of the brand. Um, Jerry story’s incredible. I literally a lot of parallels between, you know, my background and his background in that respect in terms of entrepreneurial, uh, approach. And so, um, 2019 came along and we just, it was literally just kind of the perfect, the perfect storm, if you will. Um, from the funding perspective from a, a right point of time, I’m a father and I are in business together. We’ve just actually recently hired a third or, uh, brought on a third business partner. Um, and so I, we took the leap in, um, March of 2019, went to, um, just know what the Philadelphia signed the paperwork and, and haven’t looked back since,

Scott Luton (40:57):

So you’re, you’re poised for this next big growth phase, which I’m really excited for you. And of course, I’ve been tracking you on, on social media and kind of seeing you continue to grow, which is, uh, you know, just a big old high five or digital hug. Cause I love it. Um, but just, um, I want to paint a picture for folks. Um, you know, again, I’ve had the good fortune of getting to know you a little bit before the pandemic times and kind of seeing your approach and, and kind of who you are, your core values, but you’ve got a big, heavy hitting job with Equifax that keeps you really busy. You’ve got how many children at home for four kids I’ve got. And I think when we first met, yes, and I can’t even complain cause you’ve got one more than I do. And then you’ve got a thriving entrepreneurial venture, which of course is, is another countless number of hours each week. I mean, Grady, you know, you got a couple of clones walking around. I mean, I mean, it’s amazing, you know, just all that you, um, all that you’re leading and, and, and contributing and giving parts of yourself to on any given day. I mean, how do you get all that done?

Grady Brain (42:07):

So, you know, Scott, I mentioned, um, uh, what was it a few minutes ago, a few minutes ago, when, when, when guys and gals, um, particularly kind of the alphas eight type personalities of the special operations community, um, are part of the intelligence community, there’s this kind of sexy idea that you’re, you’re literally doing things that most people don’t know about. You’re doing things that, um, history will be written about, you know, some 20, 30, 40, well, how many ever years. And so, um, it was that kind of a lower that, um, I see and, and find connections in the entrepreneurial kind of mentality and approach. And so, um, at first I just did it, you know, because I thought it was needed. And then I realized that, okay, this is kind of neat and it’s fun and exciting. It’s different. Um, it’s a little straining on the family at times, even when I’m home because of the pandemic and looking from the basement.

Grady Brain (42:55):

Um, but my wife is just absolutely thankful that she’s massively supportive of, uh, of the ventures and realizes and sees that there’s some, some pretty good potential on the, on the, on the backside here. Um, and I just, again, um, a little bit of stubbornness, a little bit of just not going to quit a little bit of just continually in forward and, and, uh, and so far the wheels slowly starting to turn and we’re seeing some significant progress. And, um, it’s just, um, it’s exciting. I got to tell you, Scott, it’s amazing and exciting and, um, you know, I’m really looking forward to what the future may hold here.

Scott Luton (43:29):

Well, I am for you. I mean, it is exciting. All right. So let’s, let’s just, I want to make sure everyone understands because you, as your business has grown, you’re kind of getting some new areas as well. So, so just lay out, how can, how are you helping individuals and organizations at J dog Athens right now

Grady Brain (43:47):

From the hiring point of view, from the labor perspective? Um, we do everything we can to plug into the, to the veteran community as they transition out of uniform. Again, I lived at, I understand it. I know what it’s about. I know how difficult it can be. Um, you know, even taking all the right steps in terms of networking and trends of education in terms of, um, grooming, you know, the network, uh, it was difficult. So, um, my, my vision here really the J dog brand vision, um, is how do we help veterans find a place that they can kind of plug into, maybe if they want to start a career with us. Um, if they want to just use us as a transitional step while they go to school, what have you, that’s what the brand is, is, is kind of holistically and fundamentally about from a labor perspective, from a work point of view, we, uh, junk hauling.

Grady Brain (44:30):

Um, so if, uh, got the old couch, you got that old refrigerator, um, that’s laying around, or if you literally have a barn that’s a 5,000 square foot barn, you need it cleaned out. That’s, um, that’s something that we certainly can handle. And on the other side of the spectrum to the right, if you have a modular home, that’s in your backyard, that was there for a hundred years, so to speak, when you bought the property, you needed it torn down. We certainly do that as well. So kind of the full array and opportunity of, um, just clean up and to make, um, you know, it was kind of, this is an exciting part about the idea that you can look up after the work has been done and get back yard or stuff, stinked, cleaned up to know that that’s no longer bothering you, right. We’re always busy where we’re full of, uh, of, of, of the day that we’ve kind of planned about us. And when Jay dawg Athens can come in there and help you clean up the garage, clean up the closet, clean out the basement. Um, it’s kind of a neat thing to know that people can sit back and just take a breath and say, destined longer on the back of my mind, bother me. Um, I can continue enjoy my life. That that’s a cool, rewarding thing.

Scott Luton (45:28):

Congrats on all of your growth thus far with the, the organization, uh, best of luck as you move into this next expansion business expansion phase, and that we’re gonna have to have you back on and kind of give us an update, uh, but it is really exciting. All right. So let’s make sure folks know how to get into or connect with you and how they can learn more about, uh, Equifax and Jay dawg acids.

Grady Brain (45:53):

So can always find me on LinkedIn, uh, Grady brain. Um, you can find us from the JTL perspective, um, J, uh, J dog,, um, and, uh, you know, between each of those, those three kind of platforms, if you will happy to help the veteran community from the Equifax perspective on finding their, their gig, if there’s an opportunity there. And then with my network, um, to the D J dog, uh, brand, um, that my father and my other business partner, Jason run, um, we’re always looking for the good person to hire as well. So either one of those three approaches, they can certainly find us

Scott Luton (46:26):

Outstanding. All right, I’m going to ask you one more question, one more bonus question. Uh, and I’m hoping that your answer may be a little different than what you’ve shared. I’ve got a, I’ve got a feeling, it might be something similar, but so you’ve given kind of advice to, um, to veterans and to veterans in transition. Now give some advice to entrepreneurs. You know what, what’s one thing that really sticks out, that’s put you in position or what’s one thing you had that one piece of advice be

Grady Brain (46:56):

It’s gotta be massive stubbornness staying focused on that goal. It’s gotta be, um, knowing that, uh, when, when to surround yourself with, uh, I’ve tried this 14 times, maybe the 15th time of work, or maybe I need to make a slight adjustment. And it really is just, um, having the tenacity to know that you have a mission in front of you that you need to continue, um, moving forward. But it’s not always through the mountain over, under, around. Uh, if you have to dig a trench under the mountain, are you prepare to do that? Um, do you have the climbing gear to climb over? Or you could just take a road

Scott Luton (47:30):

That’s already page to the right, to the left side of you to move around the mountain. So it’s just being cognizant and aware of your surroundings, knowing that maybe the easiest road isn’t always the best, but, um, if you don’t have climbing gear or digging gear, the maybe the easiest focus is the best, uh, coming forward. Love that Grady brain you did not disappoint. This is, this interview was, was end. Conversation really was what I thought it would be. It’s a pleasure to reconnect with you, even if it is digitally. Hopefully next time we meet it’ll be in person, uh, over an adult beverage or coffee or something, but, uh, really admire, uh, your journey and admire your willingness to make an impact on other folks as they go through a similar journey, especially our fellow veterans and just real proud of what you’re up to.

Scott Luton (48:14):

I can’t wait to see what is next, uh, both in your role Equifax, but also as an entrepreneur, what gets my juices going is, uh, Jay dawg, Athens. So, uh, and, and to our audience, we’re going to make sure we put everybody’s, um, all, all of, uh, ways you can connect with Grady in the show notes and make it really easy. So greedy brain with Equifax and J dog, Athens, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you sir. Much. Appreciate it. Always pleasure. Alright. So to our audience, hopefully you’ve enjoyed that as much as we did. Some tells me we only got just a tip of the iceberg with Grady. We’re going to have to have a second episode, including getting the skinny on some of those contractor roles that we couldn’t get to here today, but hopefully you’ve enjoyed this conversation as much as I have on behalf of the entire veteran voices team. And of course, splashing now, family of programming, Scott Luton. Hey, it challenged you just like with challenge yourselves, do good. Give forward, be the change that’s needed. And on that note, we’ll see you next time here on veteran voices. Thanks everybody.

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Grady Brain spent six years in the 82nd Airborne Division and six years with the 20th Special Forces Group (A). Over 12 years, he deployed or trained to deploy for over 75 months. He worked as a contractor for the Deptartment of State in Africa and in the Intelligence Community throughout contested parts of the Middle East. He then pivoted to an opportunity with Google while finishing up his EMBA at Cornell/Queens University, in a joint international program. Post-EMBA, he landed at Equifax where he’s currently an Implementation Manager in the Banking & Landing space. In 2019, he and his partners started JDog Athens, and haven’t looked back since.

He looks forward to creating better transition opportunities for Veterans as they find their way forward.


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The founder of Logistics Executive Group, Kim Winter delivers 40 years of executive leadership experience spanning Executive Search & Recruitment, Leadership Development, Executive Coaching, Corporate Advisory, Motivational Speaking, Trade Facilitation and across the Supply Chain, Logistics, 3PL, E-commerce, Life Science, Cold Chain, FMCG, Retail, Maritime, Defence, Aviation, Resources, and Industrial sectors. Operating from the company’s global offices, he is a regular contributor of thought leadership to industry and media, is a professional Master of Ceremonies, and is frequently invited to chair international events.

He is a Board member of over a dozen companies throughout APAC, India, and the Middle East, a New Zealand citizen, he holds formal resident status in Australia and the UAE, and is the Australia & New Zealand representative for the UAE Government-owned Jebel Ali Free Zone (JAFZA), the Middle East’s largest Economic Free Zone.

A triathlete and ex-professional rugby player, Kim is a qualified (IECL Sydney) executive coach and the Founder / Chairman of the successful not for profit humanitarian organization, Oasis Africa (www., which has provided freedom from poverty through education to over 8000 mainly orphaned children in East Africa’s slums. Kim holds an MBA and BA from Massey & Victoria Universities (NZ).

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Adrian Purtill

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Adrian Purtill serves as Business Development Manager at Vector Global Logistics, where he consults with importers and exporters in various industries to match their specific shipping requirements with the most effective supply chain solutions. Vector Global Logistics is an asset-free, multi-modal logistics company that provides exceptional sea freight, air freight, truck, rail, general logistic services and consulting for our clients. Our highly trained and professional team is committed to providing creative and effective solutions, always exceeding our customer’s expectations and fostering long-term relationships. With more than 20+ years of experience in both strategy consulting and logistics, Vector Global Logistics is your best choice to proactively minimize costs while having an exceptional service level.

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Kevin Brown

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Kevin Brown is the Director of Business Development for Vector Global Logistics.  He has a dedicated interest in Major Account Management, Enterprise Sales, and Corporate Leadership. He offers 25 years of exceptional experience and superior performance in the sales of Logistics, Supply Chain, and Transportation Management. Kevin is a dynamic, high-impact, sales executive and corporate leader who has consistently exceeded corporate goals. He effectively coordinates multiple resources to solution sell large complex opportunities while focusing on corporate level contacts across the enterprise. His specialties include targeting and securing key accounts by analyzing customer’s current business processes and developing solutions to meet their corporate goals. Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn.

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Jose Miguel Irarrazaval

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Jose Manuel Irarrazaval es parte del equipo de Vector Global Logistics Chile. José Manuel es un gerente experimentado con experiencia en finanzas corporativas, fusiones y adquisiciones, financiamiento y reestructuración, inversión directa y financiera, tanto en Chile como en el exterior. José Manuel tiene su MBA de la Universidad de Pennsylvania- The Wharton School. Conéctese con Jose Manuel en LinkedIn.

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Vicki White


Vicki has a long history of rising to challenges and keeping things up and running. First, she supported her family’s multi-million dollar business as controller for 12 years, beginning at the age of 17. Then, she worked as an office manager and controller for a wholesale food broker. But her biggest feat? Serving as the chief executive officer of her household, while her entrepreneur husband travelled the world extensively. She fed, nurtured, chaperoned, and chauffeured three daughters all while running a newsletter publishing business and remaining active in her community as a Stephen’s Minister, Sunday school teacher, school volunteer, licensed realtor and POA Board president (a title she holds to this day). A force to be reckoned with in the office, you might think twice before you meet Vicki on the tennis court! When she’s not keeping the books balanced at Supply Chain Now or playing tennis matches, you can find Vicki spending time with her husband Greg, her 4 fur babies, gardening, cleaning (yes, she loves to clean!) and learning new things.

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Allison Giddens


Allison Krache Giddens has been with Win-Tech, a veteran-owned small business and aerospace precision machine shop, for 15 years, recently buying the company from her mentor and Win-Tech’s Founder, Dennis Winslow. She and her business partner, John Hudson now serve as Co-Presidents, leading the 33-year old company through the pandemic.

She holds undergraduate degrees in psychology and criminal justice from the University of Georgia, a Masters in Conflict Management from Kennesaw State University, a Masters in Manufacturing from Georgia Institute of Technology, and a Certificate of Finance from the University of Georgia. She also holds certificates in Google Analytics, event planning, and Cybersecurity Risk Management from Harvard online. Allison founded the Georgia Chapter of Women in Manufacturing and currently serves as Treasurer. She serves on the Chattahoochee Technical College Foundation Board as its Secretary, the liveSAFE Resources Board of Directors as Resource Development Co-Chair, and on the Leadership Cobb Alumni Association Board as Membership Chair and is also a member of Cobb Executive Women. She is on the Board for the Cobb Chamber of Commerce’s Northwest Area Councils. Allison runs The Dave Krache Foundation, a non-profit that helps pay sports fees for local kids in need.

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Billy Taylor


Billy Taylor is a Proven Business Excellence Practitioner and Leadership Guru with over 25 years leading operations for a Fortune 500 company, Goodyear. He is also the CEO of LinkedXL (Excellence), a Business Operating Systems Architecting Firm dedicated to implementing sustainable operating systems that drive sustainable results. Taylor’s achievements in the industry have made him a Next Generational Lean pacesetter with significant contributions.

An American business executive, Taylor has made a name for himself as an innovative and energetic industry professional with an indispensable passion for his craft of operational excellence. His journey started many years ago and has worked with renowned corporations such as The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. (GT) leading multi-site operations. With over 3 decades of service leading North America operations, he is experienced in a deeply rooted process driven approach in customer service, process integrity for sustainability.

A disciple of continuous improvement, Taylor’s love for people inspires commitment to helping others achieve their full potential. He is a dynamic speaker and hosts "The Winning Link," a popular podcast centered on business and leadership excellence with the #1 rated Supply Chain Now Network. As a leadership guru, Taylor has earned several invitations to universities, international conferences, global publications, and the U.S. Army to demonstrate how to achieve and sustain effective results through cultural acceptance and employee ownership. Leveraging the wisdom of his business acumen, strong influence as a speaker and podcaster Taylor is set to release "The Winning Link" book under McGraw Hill publishing in 2022. The book is a how-to manual to help readers understand the management of business interactions while teaching them how to Deine, Align, and Execute Winning in Business.

A servant leader, Taylor, was named by The National Diversity Council as one of the Top 100 Diversity Officers in the country in 2021. He features among Oklahoma's Most Admired CEOs and maintains key leadership roles with the Executive Advisory Board for The Shingo Institute "The Nobel Prize of Operations" and The Association of Manufacturing Excellence (AME); two world-leading organizations for operational excellence, business development, and cultural learning.  He is also an Independent Director for the M-D Building Products Board, a proud American manufacturer of quality products since 1920.

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Tandreia Bellamy


Tandreia Bellamy retired as the Vice President of Industrial Engineering for UPS Supply Chain Solutions which included the Global Logistics, Global Freight Forwarding and UPS Freight business units. She was responsible for operations strategy and planning, asset management, forecasting, and technology tool development to optimize sustainable efficiency while driving world class service.

Tandreia held similar positions at the business unit level for Global Logistics and Global Freight forwarding. As the leader of the Global Logistics engineering function, she directed all industrial engineering activies related to distribution, service parts logistics (post-sales support), and mail innovations (low cost, light weight shipping partnership with the USPS). Between these roles Tandreia helped to establish the Advanced Technology Group which was formed to research and develop cutting edge solutions focused on reducing reliance on manual labor.

Tandreia began her career in 1986 as a part-time hourly manual package handling employee. She spent the great majority of her career in the small package business unit which is responsible for the pick-up, sort, transport and delivery of packages domestically. She held various positions in Industrial Engineering, Marketing, Inside and On-road operations in Central Florida before transferring to Atlanta for a position in Corporate Product Development and Corporate Industrial Engineering. Tandreia later held IE leadership roles in Nebraska, Minnesota and Chicago. In her final role in small package she was an IE VP responsible for all aspects of IE, technology support and quality for the 25 states on the western half of the country.
Tandreia is currently a Director for the University of Central Florida (UCF) Foundation Board and also serves on their Dean’s Advisory Board for the College of Engineering and Computer Science. Previously Tandreia served on the Executive Advisory Board for Virginia Tech’s IE Department and the Association for Supply Chain Management. She served on the Board of Trustees for ChildServ (a Chicago child and family services non-profit) and also served on the Texas A&M and Tuskegee Engineering Advisory Boards. In 2006 she was named Business Advisor of the Year by INROADS, in 2009 she was recognized as a Technology All-Star at the Women of Color in STEM conference and in 2019 she honored as a UCF Distinguished Aluma by the Department of Industrial Engineering and Management Systems.

Tandreia holds a bachelor’s degree in Industrial Engineering from Stanford University and a master’s degree in Industrial Engineering and Management Systems from UCF. Her greatest accomplishment, however, is being the proud mother of two college students, Ruby (24) and Anthony (22).

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Marty Parker


Marty Parker serves as both the CEO & Founder of Adæpt Advising and an award-winning Senior Lecturer (Teaching Professor) in Supply Chain and Operations Management at the University of Georgia. He has 30 years of experience as a COO, CMO, CSO (Chief Strategy Officer), VP of Operations, VP of Marketing and Process Engineer. He founded and leads UGA’s Supply Chain Advisory Board, serves as the Academic Director of UGA’s Leaders Academy, and serves on multiple company advisory boards including the Trucking Profitability Strategies Conference, Zion Solutions Group and Carlton Creative Company.

Marty enjoys helping people and companies be successful. Through UGA, Marty is passionate about his students, helping them network and find internships and jobs. He does this through several hundred one-on-one zoom meetings each year with his students and former students. Through Adæpt Advising, Marty has organized an excellent team of affiliates that he works with to help companies grow and succeed. He does this by helping c-suite executives improve their skills, develop better leaders, engage their workforce, improve processes, and develop strategic plans with detailed action steps and financial targets. Marty believes that excellence in supply chain management comes from the understanding the intersection of leadership, culture, and technology, working across all parts of the organization to meet customer needs, maximize profit and minimize costs.

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Laura Lopez

Marketing Coordinator

Laura Lopez serves as our Supply Chain Now Marketing Coordinator. She graduated from Instituto Tecnológico y de Estudios Superiores de Occidente in Mexico with a degree in marketing. Laura loves everything digital because she sees the potential it holds for companies in the marketing industry. Her passion for creativity and thinking outside the box led her to pursue a career in marketing. With experience in fields like accounting, digital marketing, and restaurants, she clearly enjoys taking on challenges. Laura lives the best of both worlds - you'll either catch her hanging out with her friends soaking up the sun in Mexico or flying out to visit her family in California!

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Jake Barr


An acknowledged industry leader, Jake Barr now serves as CEO for BlueWorld Supply Chain Consulting, providing support to a cross section of Fortune 500 companies such as Cargill, Caterpillar, Colgate, Dow/Dupont, Firmenich, 3M, Merck, Bayer/Monsanto, Newell Brands, Kimberly Clark, Nestle, PepsiCo, Pfizer, Sanofi, Estee Lauder and Coty among others. He's also devoted time to engagements in public health sector work with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. At P&G, he managed the breakthrough delivery of an E2E (End to End) Planning Transformation effort, creating control towers which now manage the daily business globally. He is recognized as the architect for P&G’s demand driven supply chain strategy – referenced as a “Consumer Driven Supply Chain” transformation. Jake began his career with P&G in Finance in Risk Analysis and then moved into Operations. He has experience in building supply network capability globally through leadership assignments in Asia, Latin America, North America and the Middle East. He currently serves as a Research Associate for MIT; a member of Supply Chain Industry Advisory Council; Member of Gartner’s Supply Chain Think Tank; Consumer Goods “League of Leaders“; and a recipient of the 2015 - 2021 Supply Chain “Pro’s to Know” Award. He has been recognized as a University of Kentucky Fellow.

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Marcia Williams


Marcia Williams, Managing Partner of USM Supply Chain, has 18 years of experience in Supply Chain, with expertise in optimizing Supply Chain-Finance Planning (S&OP/ IBP) at Large Fast-Growing CPGs for greater profitability and improved cash flows. Marcia has helped mid-sized and large companies including Lindt Chocolates, Hershey, and Coty. She holds an MBA from Michigan State University and a degree in Accounting from Universidad de la Republica, Uruguay (South America). Marcia is also a Forbes Council Contributor based out of New York, and author of the book series Supply Chains with Maria in storytelling style. A recent speaker’s engagement is Marcia TEDx Talk: TEDxMSU - How Supply Chain Impacts You: A Transformational Journey.

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Luisa Garcia

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Luisa Garcia is a passionate Marketer from Lagos de Moreno based in Aguascalientes. She holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from Universidad Autonoma de Aguascalientes, Mexico. She specializes in brand development at any stage, believing that a brand is more than just a name or image—it’s an unforgettable experience. Her expertise helps brands achieve their dreams and aspirations, making a lasting impact. Currently working at Vector Global Logistics in the Marketing team and as podcast coordinator of Logistics With Purpose®. Luisa believes that purpose-driven decisions will impact results that make a difference in the world.

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Astrid Aubert

Host, Logistics with Purpose

Astrid Aubert was born in Guadalajara, she is 39 years old and has had the opportunity to live in many places. She studied communication and her professional career has been in Trade Marketing for global companies such as Pepsico and Mars. She currently works as Marketing Director Mexico for Vector Global Logistics. She is responsible for internal communications and marketing strategy development for the logistics industry. She is a mother of two girls, married and lives in Monterrey. She defines herself as a creative and innovative person, and enjoys traveling and cooking a lot.

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Constantine Limberakis


Constantine Limberakis is a thought leader in the area of procurement and supply management. He has over 20 years of international experience, playing strategic roles in a wide spectrum of organizations related to analyst advisory, consulting, product marketing, product development, and market research.Throughout his career, he's been passionate about engaging global business leaders and the broader analyst and technology community with strategic content, speaking engagements, podcasts, research, webinars, and industry articles.Constantine holds a BA in History from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and an MBA in Finance & Marketing / Masters in Public & International Affairs from the University of Pittsburgh.

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Scott W. Luton

Founder, CEO, & Host

As the founder and CEO of Supply Chain Now, you might say Scott is the voice of supply chain – but he’s too much of a team player to ever claim such a title. One thing’s for sure: he’s a tried and true supply chain expert. With over 15 years of experience in the end-to-end supply chain, Scott’s insights have appeared in major publications including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and CNN. He has also been named a top industry influencer by Thinkers360, ISCEA and more.

From 2009-2011, Scott was president of APICS Atlanta, and he continues to lead initiatives that support both the local business community and global industry. A United States Air Force Veteran, Scott has also regularly led efforts to give back to his fellow veteran community since his departure from active duty in 2002.

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Greg White

Principal & Host

When rapid-growth technology companies, venture capital and private equity firms are looking for advisory, they call Greg – a founder, board director, advisor and catalyst of disruptive B2B technology and supply chain. An insightful visionary, Greg guides founders, investors and leadership teams in creating breakthroughs to gain market exposure and momentum – increasing overall company esteem and valuation.

Greg is a founder himself, creating Blue Ridge Solutions, a Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader in cloud-native supply chain applications, and bringing to market Curo, a field service management solution. He has also held leadership roles with Servigistics (PTC) and E3 Corporation (JDA/Blue Yonder). As a principal and host at Supply Chain Now, Greg helps guide the company’s strategic direction, hosts industry leader discussions, community livestreams, and all in addition to executive producing and hosting his original YouTube channel and podcast, TEChquila Sunrise.

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Chris Barnes

Principal, Supply Chain Now
Host of Supply Chain is Boring

Talk about world-class: Chris is one of the few professionals in the world to hold CPIM-F, CLTD-F and CSCP-F designations from ASCM/APICS. He’s also the APICS coach – and our resident Supply Chain Doctor. When he’s not hosting programs with Supply Chain Now, he’s sharing supply chain knowledge on the APICS Coach Youtube channel or serving as a professional education instructor for the Georgia Tech Supply Chain & Logistic Institute’s Supply Chain Management (SCM) program and University of Tennessee-Chattanooga Center for Professional Education courses.

Chris earned a BS in Industrial Engineering from Bradley University, an MBA with emphasis in Industrial Psychology from the University of West Florida, and is a Doctoral in Supply Chain Management candidate.

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Tyler Ward

Director of Sales

Tyler Ward serves as Supply Chain Now's Director of Sales. Born and raised in Mid-Atlantic, Tyler is a proud graduate of Shippensburg University where he earned his degree in Communications. After college, he made his way to the beautiful state of Oregon, where he now lives with his wife and daughter.

With over a decade of experience in sales, Tyler has a proven track record of exceeding targets and leading high-performing teams. He credits his success to his ability to communicate effectively with customers and team members alike, as well as his strategic thinking and problem-solving skills.

When he's not closing deals, you can find Tyler on the links or cheering on his favorite football and basketball teams. He also enjoys spending time with his family, playing pick-up basketball, and traveling back to Ocean City, Maryland, his favorite place!

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Kevin L. Jackson

Host of Digital Transformers

Kevin L. Jackson is a globally recognized Thought Leader, Industry Influencer and Founder/Author of the award winning “Cloud Musings” blog.  He has also been recognized as a “Top 5G Influencer” (Onalytica 2019, Radar 2020), a “Top 50 Global Digital Transformation Thought Leader” (Thinkers 360 2019) and provides strategic consulting and integrated social media services to AT&T, Intel, Broadcom, Ericsson and other leading companies. Mr. Jackson’s commercial experience includes Vice President J.P. Morgan Chase, Worldwide Sales Executive for IBM and SAIC (Engility) Director Cloud Solutions. He has served on teams that have supported digital transformation projects for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the US Intelligence Community.  Kevin’s formal education includes a MS Computer Engineering from Naval Postgraduate School; MA National Security & Strategic Studies from Naval War College; and a BS Aerospace Engineering from the United States Naval Academy. Internationally recognizable firms that have sponsored articles authored by him include CiscoMicrosoft, Citrix and IBM.  Books include “Click to Transform” (Leaders Press, 2020), “Architecting Cloud Computing Solutions” (Packt, 2018), and “Practical Cloud Security: A Cross Industry View” (Taylor & Francis, 2016). He also delivers online training through Tulane UniversityO’Reilly MediaLinkedIn Learning, and Pluralsight.  Mr. Jackson retired from the U.S. Navy in 1994, earning specialties in Space Systems EngineeringCarrier Onboard Delivery Logistics and carrier-based Airborne Early Warning and Control. While active, he also served with the National Reconnaissance Office, Operational Support Office, providing tactical support to Navy and Marine Corps forces worldwide.

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Enrique Alvarez

Host of Logistics with Purpose and Supply Chain Now en Español

Enrique serves as Managing Director at Vector Global Logistics and believes we all have a personal responsibility to change the world. He is hard working, relationship minded and pro-active. Enrique trusts that the key to logistics is having a good and responsible team that truly partners with the clients and does whatever is necessary to see them succeed. He is a proud sponsor of Vector’s unique results-based work environment and before venturing into logistics he worked for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG). During his time at BCG, he worked in different industries such as Telecommunications, Energy, Industrial Goods, Building Materials, and Private Banking. His main focus was always on the operations, sales, and supply chain processes, with case focus on, logistics, growth strategy, and cost reduction. Prior to joining BCG, Enrique worked for Grupo Vitro, a Mexican glass manufacturer, for five years holding different positions from sales and logistics manager to supply chain project leader in charge of five warehouses in Colombia.

He has an MBA from The Wharton School of Business and a BS, in Mechanical Engineer from the Technologico de Monterrey in Mexico. Enrique’s passions are soccer and the ocean, and he also enjoys traveling, getting to know new people, and spending time with his wife and two kids, Emma and Enrique.

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Kelly Barner

Host of Dial P for Procurement

Kelly is the Owner and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point and MyPurchasingCenter. She has been in procurement since 2003, starting as a practitioner and then as the Associate Director of Consulting at Emptoris. She has covered procurement news, events, publications, solutions, trends, and relevant economics at Buyers Meeting Point since 2009. Kelly is also the General Manager at Art of Procurement and Business Survey Chair for the ISM-New York Report on Business. Kelly has her MBA from Babson College as well as an MS in Library and Information Science from Simmons College and she has co-authored three books: ‘Supply Market Intelligence for Procurement Professionals’, ‘Procurement at a Crossroads’, and ‘Finance Unleashed’.

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Mary Kate Soliva

Host, Veteran Voices

Mary Kate Soliva is a veteran of the US Army and cofounder of the Guam Human Rights Initiative. She is currently in the Doctor of Criminal Justice program at Saint Leo University. She is passionate about combating human trafficking and has spent the last decade conducting training for military personnel and the local community.

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Amanda Luton

Vice President, Production

Amanda is a production and marketing veteran and entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and organizations including Von Maur, Anthropologie, AmericasMart Atlanta, and Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. Amanda currently manages, produces, and develops modern digital content for Supply Chain Now and their clients. Amanda has previously served as the VP of Information Systems and Webmaster on the Board of Directors for APICS Savannah, and founded and managed her own successful digital marketing firm, Magnolia Marketing Group. When she’s not leading the Supply Chain Now production team, you can find Amanda in the kitchen, reading, listening to podcasts, or enjoying time with family.

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Clay Phillips

Business Development Manager

Clay is passionate about two things: supply chain and the marketing that goes into it. Recently graduated with a degree in marketing at the University of Georgia, Clay got his start as a journalism major and inaugural member of the Owl’s football team at Kennesaw State University – but quickly saw tremendous opportunity in the Terry College of Business. He’s already putting his education to great use at Supply Chain Now, assisting with everything from sales and brand strategy to media production. Clay has contributed to initiatives such as our leap into video production, the guest blog series, and boosting social media presence, and after nearly two years in Supply Chain Now’s Marketing Department, Clay now heads up partnership and sales initiatives with the help of the rest of the Supply Chain Now sales team.

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Trisha Cordes

Administrative Assistant

Trisha is new to the supply chain industry – but not to podcasting. She’s an experienced podcast manager and virtual assistant who also happens to have 20 years of experience as an elementary school teacher. It’s safe to say, she’s passionate about helping people, and she lives out that passion every day with the Supply Chain Now team, contributing to scheduling and podcast production.

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Chantel King

Social Media Manager

My name is Chantel King and I am the Social Media Specialist at Supply Chain Now. My job is to make sure our audience is engaged and educated on the abundant amount of information the supply chain industry has to offer.

Social Media and Communications has been my niche ever since I graduated from college at The Academy of Art University in San Francisco. No, I am not a West Coast girl. I was born and raised in New Jersey, but my travel experience goes way beyond the garden state. My true passion is in creating editorial and graphic content that influences others to be great in whatever industry they are in. I’ve done this by working with lifestyle, financial, and editorial companies by providing resources to enhance their businesses.

Another passion of mine is trying new things. Whether it’s food, an activity, or a sport. I would like to say that I am an adventurous Taurus that never shies away from a new quest or challenge.

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Lori Sofian

Marketing Coordinator

Lori is currently completing a degree in marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing at the University of Georgia. When she’s not supporting the marketing efforts at Supply Chain Now, you can find her at music festivals – or working toward her dream goal of a fashion career. Lori is involved in many extracurricular activities and appreciates all the learning experiences UGA has brought her.

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Katherine Hintz

Director, Customer Experience

Katherine is a marketing professional and MBA candidate who strives to unite her love of people with a passion for positive experiences. Having a diverse background, which includes nonprofit work with digital marketing and start-ups, she serves as a leader who helps people live their most creative lives by cultivating community, order, collaboration, and respect. With equal parts creativity and analytics, she brings a unique skill set which fosters refining, problem solving, and connecting organizations with their true vision. In her free time, you can usually find her looking for her cup of coffee, playing with her puppy Charlie, and dreaming of her next road trip.

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Mary Kate Love

Chief of Staff & Host

Mary Kate Love is currently the VP of marketing at Supply Chain Now focused on brand strategy and audience + revenue growth. Mary Kate’s career is a testament to her versatility and innovative spirit: she has experience in start-ups, venture capital, and building innovation initiatives from the ground up: she previously helped lead the build-out of the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific and before that, MxD (Manufacturing times Digital): the Department of Defense’s digital manufacturing innovation center. Mary Kate has a passion for taking complicated ideas and turning them into reality: she was one of the first team members at MxD and the first team member at the Supply Chain Innovation Center at Georgia-Pacific.

Mary Kate dedicates her extra time to education and mentorship: she was one of the founding Board Members for Women Influence Chicago and led an initiative for a city-wide job shadow day for young women across Chicago tech companies and was previously on the Board of Directors at St. Laurence High School in Chicago, Young Irish Fellowship Board and the UN Committee for Women. Mary Kate is the founder of National Supply Chain Day and enjoys co-hosting podcasts at Supply Chain Now. Mary Kate is from the south side of Chicago, a mom of two baby boys, and an avid 16-inch softball player. She holds a BS in Political Science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

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Joshua Miranda

Marketing Specialist

Joshua is a student from Institute of Technology and Higher Education of Monterrey Campus Guadalajara in Communication and Digital Media. His experience ranges from Plug and Play México, DearDoc, and Nissan México creating unique social media marketing campaigns and graphics design. Joshua helps to amplify the voice of supply chain here at Supply Chain Now by assisting in graphic design, content creation, asset logistics, and more.  In his free time he likes to read and write short stories as well as watch movies and television series.

Donna Krache

Director of Communications and Executive Producer

Donna Krache is a former CNN executive producer who has won several awards in journalism and communication, including three Peabodys.  She has 30 years’ experience in broadcast and digital journalism. She led the first production team at CNN to convert its show to a digital platform. She has authored many articles for CNN and other media outlets. She taught digital journalism at Georgia State University and Arizona State University. Krache holds a bachelor’s degree in government from the College of William and Mary and a master’s degree in curriculum and instruction from the University of New Orleans. She is a serious sports fan who loves the Braves. She is president of the Dave Krache Foundation. Named in honor of her late husband, this non-profit pays fees for kids who want to play sports but whose parents are facing economic challenges.

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